Annual Power Consumption Summary

F

Fred Bartoli

Jan 1, 1970
0
Michael A. Terrell said:
Not to mention, you have the perfect place to get rid of Junk mail
and old catalogs!

If only we could burn spam. Maybe spammers

W

Winfield Hill

Jan 1, 1970
0
Jim Thompson wrote...
I note that Win has failed to report in on his HEATING costs...
I suspect his heating + electricity costs may rival mine.

posted elesewhere, copied here: About $1200 last year. ... my heat + electricity was under half the cost of your electricity alone. I'm not impressed by insulation problems with 115F hot and 75 inside, because it's analogous to 28F cold with 68 inside. Either way the house insulation has to withstand a 40F difference. My house has a similar area to yours, but it's on 3 floors (including full basement), which greatly cuts down on insulation losses. Stretched-out single-floor homes don't make good thermal sense to me, but I also wonder if homes aren't just better insulated here in NE. J Jim Thompson Jan 1, 1970 0 That's for your home ? Just how do you manage to get through so much energy ? Do you have an idea of how it breaks down by usage ? Graham No I don't know the breakdown, but there are numerous loads that add up... 2X 5-ton A/C, reversed to "heat pump" mode in winter 1.5 hp swimming pool pump... 12 hours per day 0.5hp waterfall pump 24/7 5 PC's 24/7... small but continuous 250 gal reef tank, pump (of unknown hp) runs 24/7, kilowatts of "day" lighting + actinic running 12 hours/day yard/security lighting... dusk to dawn plus the standard stuff... all electric kitchen... separate Sub Zero freezer and refrigerator, stove top, separate ovens/warmer, microwave (low use), Asko dishwasher; washing machine and electric dryer; electric hot water with European style recirculation pump running 24/7 (there is no natural gas available on this site); 5 TV sets in the house Typical red state affluence ;-) ...Jim Thompson J Jim Thompson Jan 1, 1970 0 Jim Thompson wrote... posted elesewhere, copied here: About$1200 last year.

... my heat + electricity was under half the cost of
your electricity alone. I'm not impressed by insulation
problems with 115F hot and 75 inside, because it's analogous
to 28F cold with 68 inside. Either way the house insulation
has to withstand a 40F difference. My house has a similar
area to yours, but it's on 3 floors (including full basement),
which greatly cuts down on insulation losses. Stretched-out
single-floor homes don't make good thermal sense to me, but I
also wonder if homes aren't just better insulated here in NE.

I think I know what the differences are...

(1) What is the total surface area of the outside of your house?

(2) What is the total contained volume? (Not as significant, but I
suspect I can contain 4X of your house inside mine... 18' ceiling
height in the great room, 10', 12', 15' elsewhere.)

(3) My 3650sq.ft. is "liveable", doesn't count garage or basement (if

...Jim Thompson

M

Meindert Sprang

Jan 1, 1970
0
1.5 hp swimming pool pump... 12 hours per day

Crickey!! Your swimming pool pump consumes more than the average household
in the Netherlands (2500-4000kWh/year). On top of that, we use around
2000-3000m3 of gas for heating.

65,618kWh....sheesh....

Meindert

J

Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
0
Crickey!! Your swimming pool pump consumes more than the average household
in the Netherlands (2500-4000kWh/year). On top of that, we use around
2000-3000m3 of gas for heating.

65,618kWh....sheesh....

Meindert

Does ANY average European household have a swimming pool? Virtually
all average houses in Arizona do.

...Jim Thompson

F

Fred Bartoli

Jan 1, 1970
0
Jim Thompson said:
(there is no natural gas available on this site); 5 TV sets in the
house

5! Arghhh... I'd be dying.

Just one is enough for me, and it runs maybe 2-3 hours a week.

M

Meindert Sprang

Jan 1, 1970
0
Jim Thompson said:
Does ANY average European household have a swimming pool? Virtually
all average houses in Arizona do.

Nope, not where I live.

Meindert

J

Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
0

Yep. Most child drownings occur while parents are home "watching"
them. Me? I have a high door latch as well as the normal location,
so it takes an adult arm span to be able to open a door into the
backyard. And spring hinges so that doors stay closed. Plus all six
of my grandchildren are good swimmers... YET we watch them like hawks.

...Jim Thompson

R

Jan 1, 1970
0
.
hinges so that doors stay closed. Plus all six of my grandchildren are
good swimmers... YET we watch them like hawks.

Do you tap their phones?

Thanks,
Rich

R

Jan 1, 1970
0
(2) What is the total contained volume? (Not as significant, but I
suspect I can contain 4X of your house inside mine.

Maybe, but his big brother can beat up your big brother.

Nanner, nanner!

;-)
Rich

F

Fred Bartoli

Jan 1, 1970
0
Do you tap their phones?

ROFL

D

[email protected]

Jan 1, 1970
0
Meindert said:
Crickey!! Your swimming pool pump consumes more than the average household
in the Netherlands (2500-4000kWh/year). On top of that, we use around
2000-3000m3 of gas for heating.

65,618kWh....sheesh....

Meindert

2,500kWh ? Extravagant!

Me, last year: 1,667 kWh @ $0.129 =$214, or an average 24/7 draw of
190w. Most of that is consumed by the refrigerator, followed by the
computer.

I recently knocked down the computer's draw by switching to an LCD
monitor, which saves about 50w * 10 hrs/day, reducing my total usage
some 10%.

I've thought about getting an ultra-efficient refrigerator, and
balked at the >$1K cost (compared to my$60 neighborhood special), but,
running the numbers it seems the energy savings would pay for it in <10
years.

Heating/cooling expenditure: 0 Gas consumed: 40m^3 (When it's
hot/cold outside, it's hot/cold inside Gasoline consumed: ~175
gal. (5,900mi, 34mpg) (or, in sensible units, 660 l, 9440 Km, 14.4
Km/L)

Grins,
James Arthur

J

Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
0
Hello Joseph,

I currently live in the central valley (of CA of USA) (north of halfway)
which is a pretty mild climate. Have previously lived LA, SD, and SJ of
same state. What part do you live in?

East of Sacramento, in the foothills. We did have some frost at night
lately but not much. The downside for those w/o wood heat is that you
are at the mercy of a monopoly when you heat electrically or via heat
pump, or at the mercy of propane suppliers when using gas. Whenever I
inquired about propane pricing the cost per gallon was miraculously the
same for all the supplier I called. So we had to break out of that
strange hold, and we did.

Wood heating comes with a lot of hard work. But hey, on the bright side
this means that we do not need any gym membership.

Regards, Joerg

B

budgie

Jan 1, 1970
0
Crickey!!

(snip)

May I nit-pick, from the land of "Crikey!", and assist your spelling - which is
extremely good for what I presume is your second (or later) language ;-)

A

Allan Herriman

Jan 1, 1970
0
(snip)

May I nit-pick, from the land of "Crikey!", and assist your spelling - which is
extremely good for what I presume is your second (or later) language ;-)

Also from the lang of Crikey, my home (2 of us) uses about 400kWhr per
year.

fridge.
some lights.
tv
microwave oven
2 x laptop computers

Everything's turned off when it's not needed.

I walk to work, so don't waste any energy there either.

Farting is probably my major contribution to greenhouse gases.

Allan

R

Rich Grise, but drunk

Jan 1, 1970
0
Hello Joseph,

East of Sacramento, in the foothills. We did have some frost at night
lately but not much. The downside for those w/o wood heat is that you are
at the mercy of a monopoly when you heat electrically or via heat pump, or
at the mercy of propane suppliers when using gas. Whenever I inquired
about propane pricing the cost per gallon was miraculously the same for
all the supplier I called. So we had to break out of that strange hold,
and we did.

Wood heating comes with a lot of hard work. But hey, on the bright side
this means that we do not need any gym membership.

or maybe it's a branch of this thread - anyway, just the other day it
was a little chilly - like, high 60's, and since I don't do anything,
and am intolerant of cold, I was wearing a sweater and a jacket. Well,
around lunchtime, I decided to walk to the store. Admittedly, the sun
was shining, but the air temp. was only teasing 70F, which to me is
chilly, if I'm just sitting there.

But by the time I got to the store, I had to take off the jacket, and
by the time I got back to the office, I had to take off the sweater.

Apparently walking is good for you, too.

Cheers!
Rich

J

Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
0
Also from the lang of Crikey, my home (2 of us) uses about 400kWhr per
year.

fridge.
some lights.
tv
microwave oven
2 x laptop computers

Everything's turned off when it's not needed.

I walk to work, so don't waste any energy there either.

I walk to work too.

My 5 year old truck has only 20,000 miles on it
Farting is probably my major contribution to greenhouse gases.

Allan

Me too ;-)

...Jim Thompson

B

budgie

Jan 1, 1970
0
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:05:25 +1100, Allan Herriman
(snip)

(snip)

Me too ;-)

and you think my YahooID (tunzafartz) is a random choice? ;-))

Replies
1
Views
1K
R
Replies
0
Views
1K
RFIDabc
R
W
Replies
0
Views
1K
W
R
Replies
1
Views
997
S
J
Replies
2
Views
965
J