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Art of electronics ... 3rd edition?

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Paul Rosen

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi @ll

I have found in a german group, that the 3rd editon of the book
"Horowitz, Hill - art of electronics" shall be released in march 2004.
This means, next month. Does anybody know something about this?
 
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Winfield Hill

Jan 1, 1970
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Paul Rosen wrote...
Hi @ll

I have found in a german group, that the 3rd editon of the book
"Horowitz, Hill - art of electronics" shall be released in march 2004.
This means, next month. Does anybody know something about this?

urban myth

Thanks,
- Win

whill_at_picovolt-dot-com
 
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Ralph & Diane Barone

Jan 1, 1970
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Winfield Hill said:
Paul Rosen wrote...

urban myth

Thanks,
- Win

whill_at_picovolt-dot-com

<Bugs Bunny mode ON>

Ah... whadda you know, buddy?

<Bugs Bunny mode OFF>
 
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Paul Rosen

Jan 1, 1970
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Winfield Hill said:
Paul Rosen wrote...

urban myth

Thanks,
- Win

Oooooooooooh, that seems to be the author himself. :-O .
Never thought to see him here.
This should be the most authoritative disclosure, I ever could get
elsewhere. :)
 
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Ben Bradley

Jan 1, 1970
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In sci.electronics.design, Winfield Hill
Paul Rosen wrote...

And there's a Bob Dylan song about a man in prison, "I shall be
released."
urban myth

I searched for "art of electronics" at snopes.com and I get:

Are the NEA, NPR, PBS, and Sesame Street in danger of extinction due
to government cutbacks?

Can CD sound quality be improved with green marking pens?

Did a hip-hop group release an album depicting an exploding World
Trade Center on the cover?

None of which have any info on any alleged release date of a book.

A search on urbanlegends.com gives the same "Internal Server Error"
error that it's been giving for months. But wait, there's this:

http://urbanlegends.com/people/dredged.html

No, it's not Janet Jackson's you-know-what, it's an expose' on
those urban legends sites. Looks like News2020 might be right.

Maybe I should get off this Usenet thing (it's nothing but
unsubstantiated urban legends anyway) and go through that 2nd Edition,
looking for (more) duplicated circuits. And if I'm not careful, I
might learn something...
 
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Philip A. Marshall

Jan 1, 1970
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A search on urbanlegends.com gives the same "Internal Server Error"
error that it's been giving for months. But wait, there's this:

http://urbanlegends.com/people/dredged.html

No, it's not Janet Jackson's you-know-what, it's an expose' on
those urban legends sites. Looks like News2020 might be right.

uh, why is the expose posted on the very site they claim they're
trying to expose?
 
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John Woodgate

Jan 1, 1970
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(in said:
I have found in a german group, that the 3rd editon of the book
"Horowitz, Hill - art of electronics" shall be released in march 2004.
This means, next month. Does anybody know something about this?

Yes; it's a proof that you shouldn't believe anything you read on Usenet
without confirmation.

Alternatively, maybe that's 2004 on the Muslim calendar. (;-)
 
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John Woodgate

Jan 1, 1970
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Oooooooooooh, that seems to be the author himself. :-O . Never thought
to see him here.

You are obviously a new inmate of this mad-house. Welcome!
 
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Rich Webb

Jan 1, 1970
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Yes; it's a proof that you shouldn't believe anything you read on Usenet
without confirmation.

Sure, I can confirm it. I just received a brandy-new copy of the 2nd
edition from Amazon last Thursday. Based on past experience, three days
later is about when I would expect to hear that publication of the 3rd
edition is imminent. 'Course, I could be wrong...
 
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Wouter van Ooijen

Jan 1, 1970
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Sure, I can confirm it. I just received a brandy-new copy of the 2nd
edition from Amazon last Thursday. Based on past experience, three days
later is about when I would expect to hear that publication of the 3rd
edition is imminent. 'Course, I could be wrong...

Just in case you are right, could you send Winfried a copy? Might save
him a lot of writing!


Wouter van Ooijen

-- ------------------------------------
http://www.voti.nl
PICmicro chips, programmers, consulting
 
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Paul Rosen

Jan 1, 1970
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Just in case you are right, could you send Winfried a copy? Might save
him a lot of writing!

:-D Burst out laughing is good for the health.
 
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Stefan Heinzmann

Jan 1, 1970
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I received my copy of AoE 2nd Edition today (see Win, I did bite the
bullet at the end). After my first skimming through it I can't hold back
a few comments and questions, now that I know that one of the authors is
listening.

o It is a very useful book. I particularly like the easy-going style.
It complements nicely the German Tietze/Schenk, which is a similar
heavyweight (>1400 pages), but more rigorous, with more mathematics.
(Has that ever been translated to English?)

o Being educated as a computer scientist, I could not resist looking at
the digital/computer parts first. It is quite apparent here that the
book was written 15 years ago.

o I tried to imagine what the future 3rd edition could possibly look
like. I couldn't. There's such a lot of stuff that I would want to put
in there that the book would explode. Things to include would be:
Electronic design using HDL (VHDL, Verilog). FPGAs. Newer interfaces
like USB, Firewire, PCI, Serial ATA, IrDA, Bluetooth, Wireless Ethernet.
Cell phone technologies. DSP. Sigma-Delta Converters. Microcontroller
programming in high level language. Multithreading kernels. Fuzzy logic
(?). SPI and I²C buses. Circuit simulation (SPICE, IBIS). I could go on.
How's that ever going to fit into one book? Win, haven't you despaired yet?

o Math review on three pages. Cool.

o The entire Chapter 12 is a testament to the down-to-earth character
of the book. No "rigorous" scientific oevre would bother itself with
this practical stuff. (Badly needs updating, though)

o Although there's a bibliography with some minimal commentary in the
appendix, I'd find it more useful to include footnotes in the normal
text for pointing out additional sources of advice/information on the
topic at hand. Maybe this can also be factored out to an accompanying
web page.

o Did we only have a handful of logic families in 1989? I can hardly
believe it today! The sheer number of different logic families today
makes the head spin and cries out for a road map.

Ok, enough for now. I've got some reading to do...
 
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Leeper

Jan 1, 1970
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Mine is 1980, reprinted in 1981. Has the book changed much since then?
 
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Winfield Hill

Jan 1, 1970
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Leeper wrote...
Mine is 1980, reprinted in 1981. Has the book changed much since then?

That's the first edition. The 2nd was dramatically larger and different.

Thanks,
- Win

whill_at_picovolt-dot-com
 
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