Bring Back the HP 15C Scientific Calculator

[Chris W]

I have been working on an effort to get HP to start making the 15C, or a
similar model again. To this end I have set up a web site with a
petition. If you are like me, and would love to have a well made
calculator like the 15C again. Please take a moment to go to my web
site and sign the petition. If you have never used a 15C before the web
site will tell you why it is the best scientific calculator for everyday
use. I have been in contact with a member of the calculator planning
department at HP who is sympathetic to the cause and will argue the case
to those who make the decisions, however I need to get many more
signatures on the petition, so tell anyone you know who would also
benifit from a quality calculator like the 15C, to check out the website.

http://hp15c.org

Chris W
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[Spehro Pefhany]

For several times more than you could buy one in a store you could make
your own...

Well, that and $50K for the molds..

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[Aleksei Guzev]

Why not using a handheld PC with software emulation of the 15C?

 

[Chris W]

Why not using a handheld PC with software emulation of the 15C?

Because then you loose one of the qualities that HP calculators are
known for, the positive tactile feel of the buttons. A touch screen can
not replace buttons and still be as efficient.

--
Chris W

Bring Back the HP 15C
http://hp15c.org

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[Alan Adrian]

Because then you loose one of the qualities that HP calculators are
known for, the positive tactile feel of the buttons. A touch screen can
not replace buttons and still be as efficient.

But dreaming that the idiots at HP will suddenly decide to spend the big
bucks to release another calculator with the nice (expensive) keyboards of
old will not make it so. I too wish it could be, but can't imagine HP
suddenly deciding to return to quality engineering.

Good thread though.. maybe someone will grab a clue rake over there and the
age of quality HP gadgetry will return.

Al... (not holding his breath)

 

[gerry]

[original post is likely clipped to save bandwidth]

Why not using a handheld PC with software emulation of the 15C?

How about batteries that last for a year?

gerry

 

[Daniel J. Stern]

But dreaming that the idiots at HP will suddenly decide to spend the big
bucks to release another calculator with the nice (expensive) keyboards of
old will not make it so. I too wish it could be, but can't imagine HP
suddenly deciding to return to quality engineering.

It'd be sort of like persuading the MBAssholes at Black and Decker to
quit selling garbage toasters made by 7-year-olds and prisoners in China,
and instead return to making these:
http://www.torque.net/~u225/LJ/0528/T93hum.jpg

Not gonna happen.

-Stern

 

[Chris W]

But dreaming that the idiots at HP will suddenly decide to spend the big
bucks to release another calculator with the nice (expensive) keyboards of
old will not make it so.

You may not have noticed that HP has started making calculators again.
They have a 49G+ and a 48GII, the newer versions of both have much nicer
keys, unlike the 49G, and early 49G+ models. They are NOT made in the
USA but I understand the quality is pretty good. What I find is lacking
is a true pocket calculator. HP calls the 33S a pocket calculator, but
it is bigger than the 42S and 32S, which were both a tad too big. To me
the 15C is the biggest that can be considered a pocket calculator.


--
Chris W

Bring Back the HP 15C
http://hp15c.org

Not getting the gifts you want? The Wish Zone can help.
http://thewishzone.com

 

[~^Johnny^~]

or maybe Bluetooth too.
Nah...

WiFi!

--
-john
wide-open at throttle dot info

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A little knowledge that acts is worth infinitely
more than much knowledge that is idle. -Kahlil Gibran
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[~^Johnny^~]

But dreaming that the idiots at HP will suddenly decide to spend the big
bucks to release another calculator with the nice (expensive) keyboards of
old will not make it so.

How about Windows calculator with RPN? ;->
--
-john
wide-open at throttle dot info

~~~~~~~~
"The first step in intelligent tinkering is to
save all the parts." - Aldo Leopold
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[~^Johnny^~]

It'd be sort of like persuading the MBAssholes at Black and Decker to
quit selling garbage toasters made by 7-year-olds and prisoners in China,
and instead return to making these:
http://www.torque.net/~u225/LJ/0528/T93hum.jpg

Not gonna happen.

-Stern

Oh, give me a f***ing break! G.E. sucks! At least, they make the WORST
excuses for home appliances in the world, save perhaps WCI (formerly
Westingouse).

IMIO (In My Inflated Opinion),
McGraw-Edison, Hobart, and Revco are the three kings of kitchen appliancedom!
--
-john
wide-open at throttle dot info

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The time to repair the roof is when the sun is shining
- JFK
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[~^Johnny^~]

What I find is lacking
is a true pocket calculator.

"I'm the operator with my pocket calculator"
-Kraftwerk


--
-john
wide-open at throttle dot info

~~~~~~~~
"Stealing our copyright provisions in the dead of night when no-one
is looking is piracy. It's not piracy when kids swap music over the
Internet using Napster..." - Courtney Love
~~~~~~~~

 

[Aleksei Guzev]

How about Windows calculator with RPN? ;->

Yes! Extensible with custom plug-ins.
Rich graphic interface with 3D accelerator
like, for example, Nokia nGage phones.
A good selection of programming laguages
including perfect reverse notation ones.
For example, PostScript-like for graphics...

Aleksei Guzev

P.S. Sure enough they will not implement all of the features,
but that is why the goal is to request as many, as imaginable

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

How about Windows calculator with RPN? ;->

http://www.web-ee.com/Downloads/Calculator/calculators.htm

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[~^Johnny^~]

http://www.web-ee.com/Downloads/Calculator/calculators.htm

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Uh, I was being sarcastic.
But I think you knew that

And I wasn't even reading you in SED, as usual.
I was reading in SE-Hvac.

such is the crosspost malady

--
-john
wide-open at throttle dot info

~~~~~~~~
"The first step in intelligent tinkering is to
save all the parts." - Aldo Leopold
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[Daniel J. Stern]

Oh, give me a f***ing break! G.E. sucks! At least, they make the WORST
excuses for home appliances in the world,

I'm guessing you're significantly under 30, or at the very least a very
newly-minted engineer. Or perhaps not an engineer at all. You exhibit the
classic symptom: thinking that engineering rectitude and hierarchy
arrived and was immutably fixed (BLAM!) approximately 8 minutes before
your own birth.

IOW, just as HP used to make good stuff and now makes crap, so too with
GE.

-Stern

 

[~^Johnny^~]

I'm guessing you're significantly under 30, or at the very least a very
newly-minted engineer. Or perhaps not an engineer at all.

Are you akin to Howard? ;-)

I am well over 30 of age, and hardly newly minted in either engineering or
mechanics.

You exhibit the
classic symptom: thinking that engineering rectitude and hierarchy
arrived and was immutably fixed (BLAM!) approximately 8 minutes before
your own birth.

What the hell are you talking about?
It is common knowledge that design and quality control have both suffered and
declined over the years. Immutably fixed, my ass!

IOW, just as HP used to make good stuff and now makes crap, so too with
GE.

Hello???

That's what I have been SAYING all along!

Or have you not read my other posts?
How about the one re: my Kitchenaid dishwasher,
which is about as old as I...
http://tinyurl.com/2cx9g







--
-john
wide-open at throttle dot info

~~~~~~~~
"Stealing our copyright provisions in the dead of night when no-one
is looking is piracy. It's not piracy when kids swap music over the
Internet using Napster..." - Courtney Love
~~~~~~~~

 

[Michael]

What the hell are you talking about?

It is common knowledge that design and quality control have both suffered and
declined over the years. Immutably fixed, my ass!

Common knowledge, and commonly incorrect.

There are numerous products whose quality is immeasurably better than it was
"back in the good old days". The most prominent example of this is the
automotive industry--practically anything on the road today is better built
than even the best cars from the days of yore.

 

[Walter Driedger]

suffered

Common knowledge, and commonly incorrect.

There are numerous products whose quality is immeasurably better than it was
"back in the good old days". The most prominent example of this is the
automotive industry--practically anything on the road today is better built
than even the best cars from the days of yore.

Absolutely right. I don't have a lot of patience with the argument of
everything better in old days. It's on par with "Everytink better in old
country, yah!" I was just looking at an old car manual about changing tires
every 5000 miles. Remember old airplane movies? "Are we going to make it
across the ocean, Captain?" Then there were old houses -- drafty with
astronomical heating bills. As a kid I became expert at fixing toilets. It
only happens now once every few years. I can't remember a leaky faucet in
years but I can recall old sinks with the enamel eroded to bare metal from
dripping. I could go on and on. My three kids grew up with only one cavity
between the three of them. And even that one had something to do with an
underemployed dentist.

Now I wonder what is the psychological basis for this "everything better in
old days" attitude. I guess some people just like to bitch. That's one way
of doing it without making enemies, I guess.

Walter.

 

[Walter Driedger]

You have a point there. Consider really old buildings. Only a very small
fraction of really old buildings is still around. Those few must have been
massively over-built. It's worth remembering that some cathedrals collapsed.
There even is a pyramid that collapsed. The later ones weren't nearly as
steep.

Walter.