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Damian

Jan 1, 1970
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Rod Speed said:
Its no worse than any injection, fuckwit.

It is dimwit. It kills you. You cease to exist.
Get a syringe from local chemist and use potassium cholride you got in your
kitchen.
Inject it up your arse and document everyting until last second.
Automate the document upload process, so we can see it here.
Don't neglect to mention how "humane" is it.
Wrong, as always.

Right, but not always
Have fun listing even a single law that says anything like that.

Legislation changes from state to state. Oz consitution allows each states
run their own bullshit show regarding animal welfare.
Funny, they haven't done the same thing about boat people.

Read at your own time and find it.

http://kb.rspca.org.au/What-is-the-Australian-legislation-governing-animal-welfare_264.html

And there is nothing illegal about that.

Of course it's illegal stupid.
If you interpret the clauses of animal welfare acts in each state, it will
be. But, nobody gives a shit, 'cos there sre so many abandoned animals.
Their lives are of little value, comaring to ours.
We momentarily speed on the roads, and never get caught. Coppers do that
too, but it's illegal, right?
They kill animals in pounds all the time. Perfectly healthy animals, 'cos
nobody wants them and the staff/rangers either have no time/cant be bothered
to find owners/foster homes.
This is the reason there are many animal shelters with no affiliation with
the government. dedicated to save as many as possible.
I volunteer and donate, that's why I know my shit.
Irrelevant to what is illegal.



Completely irrelevant.

None of the rest of your peurile silly shit worth bothering with.

If you cant do any better than this juvenile shit, you'll just be ignored.

I'm right (with flying colours)
 
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F Murtz

Jan 1, 1970
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Damian said:
It is dimwit. It kills you. You cease to exist.
Get a syringe from local chemist and use potassium cholride you got in your
kitchen.
Inject it up your arse and document everyting until last second.
Automate the document upload process, so we can see it here.
Don't neglect to mention how "humane" is it.



I don't know who is the dimwit, The injection is no different than any
other injection, the results differ. I personally don't know anyone with
"potassium cholride" in their kitchen,

humane // adj.
1 benevolent, compassionate.
2 inflicting the minimum of pain.
3 (of a branch of learning) tending to civilize or confer refinement.
humanely adv.
humaneness n.
[variant of human, differentiated in sense in the 18th c.]
 
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Damian

Jan 1, 1970
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F Murtz said:
I don't know who is the dimwit,

It's an avatar of Rod Speed, not he himself.
The real fella is a funny and caring old curmudgeon. :)
The injection is no different than any other injection, the results differ.
I personally don't know anyone with "potassium cholride" in their kitchen,

Neither do I. It's a just a rub-in-nose.
I thought Rod might have it, since he's a chemist.
humane // adj.
1 benevolent, compassionate.
2 inflicting the minimum of pain.
3 (of a branch of learning) tending to civilize or confer refinement.
humanely adv.
humaneness n.
[variant of human, differentiated in sense in the 18th c.]

Thank you for the educational quote.
Funny! they use the same word 'humane' in all the factory farmed animals.
Ever seen how they kill the cows and fowls in slaughter houses?!
It's one hell of a grotesque scenery.
There's nothing compassionate about killing healthy cats and dogs, when we
can afford to neuter and give them a life.
I hear the goons in pounds and RSPCA use a similar word "put to sleep" on
all the unwanted or abandoned animals.
We treat the boat people same discompassionate way. We can spend a fraction
of the money we spend now and treat them
with the dignity they deserve.
We can't take them all, nor we should, to be fair to the people who are
waiting years on the normal channels.
Sending them back is still possible while processing them on-shore.
We already do that. Nobody can stop if the Australian people want to update
the migration act to allow that happen without
violating the constitution or existing migration laws.
 
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F Murtz

Jan 1, 1970
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Damian said:
It's an avatar of Rod Speed, not he himself.
The real fella is a funny and caring old curmudgeon. :)


Neither do I. It's a just a rub-in-nose.
I thought Rod might have it, since he's a chemist.

Even if he was a chemist I fail to see why he would have a non existing
chemical in his kitchen
humane // adj.
1 benevolent, compassionate.
2 inflicting the minimum of pain.
3 (of a branch of learning) tending to civilize or confer refinement.
humanely adv.
humaneness n.
[variant of human, differentiated in sense in the 18th c.]

Thank you for the educational quote.
Funny! they use the same word 'humane' in all the factory farmed animals.
Ever seen how they kill the cows and fowls in slaughter houses?!
It's one hell of a grotesque scenery.
There's nothing compassionate about killing healthy cats and dogs, when we
can afford to neuter and give them a life.

You seem to stress only one part of the meaning
The second part is the part meant by most people when discussing putting
animals down
 
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Damian

Jan 1, 1970
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F Murtz said:
Even if he was a chemist I fail to see why he would have a non existing
chemical in his kitchen

Potassium chloride.
You reckon it exists now?!
humane // adj.
1 benevolent, compassionate.
2 inflicting the minimum of pain.
3 (of a branch of learning) tending to civilize or confer refinement.
humanely adv.
humaneness n.
[variant of human, differentiated in sense in the 18th c.]

Thank you for the educational quote.
Funny! they use the same word 'humane' in all the factory farmed
animals.
Ever seen how they kill the cows and fowls in slaughter houses?!
It's one hell of a grotesque scenery.
There's nothing compassionate about killing healthy cats and dogs, when
we
can afford to neuter and give them a life.

You seem to stress only one part of the meaning
The second part is the part meant by most people when discussing putting
animals down

Sure.
I am not particularly attached to the word, nor am I trying to invoke a
language debate.
Merely stressing the amount inhumaneness and the widespread ignorance in the
society regarding
refugee and animal welfare matters.
Our treatement of refugees and animals is horrendous for a developed
country.
You cannot sugercoat that.
 
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F Murtz

Jan 1, 1970
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Damian said:
Potassium chloride.
You reckon it exists now?!


Does what exist? what you said or what you changed it to.
humane // adj.
1 benevolent, compassionate.
2 inflicting the minimum of pain.
3 (of a branch of learning) tending to civilize or confer refinement.
humanely adv.
humaneness n.
[variant of human, differentiated in sense in the 18th c.]

Thank you for the educational quote.
Funny! they use the same word 'humane' in all the factory farmed
animals.
Ever seen how they kill the cows and fowls in slaughter houses?!
It's one hell of a grotesque scenery.
There's nothing compassionate about killing healthy cats and dogs, when
we
can afford to neuter and give them a life.

You seem to stress only one part of the meaning
The second part is the part meant by most people when discussing putting
animals down

Sure.
I am not particularly attached to the word, nor am I trying to invoke a
language debate.
Merely stressing the amount inhumaneness and the widespread ignorance in the
society regarding
refugee and animal welfare matters.
Our treatement of refugees and animals is horrendous for a developed
country.
You cannot sugercoat that.
 
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Damian

Jan 1, 1970
0
F Murtz said:
Does what exist? what you said or what you changed it to.

Your experties on Chemistry and language is amazing!
Can't you do better than picking on a simple typo?!
Not all of us have the luxury of a spell checker backed newsreader.
alt.languages.english is good place for such discussions/debates.
You sound like somebody's avatar's avatar!

humane // adj.
1 benevolent, compassionate.
2 inflicting the minimum of pain.
3 (of a branch of learning) tending to civilize or confer refinement.
humanely adv.
humaneness n.
[variant of human, differentiated in sense in the 18th c.]

Thank you for the educational quote.
Funny! they use the same word 'humane' in all the factory farmed
animals.
Ever seen how they kill the cows and fowls in slaughter houses?!
It's one hell of a grotesque scenery.
There's nothing compassionate about killing healthy cats and dogs, when
we
can afford to neuter and give them a life.

You seem to stress only one part of the meaning
The second part is the part meant by most people when discussing putting
animals down

Sure.
I am not particularly attached to the word, nor am I trying to invoke a
language debate.
Merely stressing the amount inhumaneness and the widespread ignorance in
the
society regarding
refugee and animal welfare matters.
Our treatement of refugees and animals is horrendous for a developed
country.
You cannot sugercoat that.
I hear the goons in pounds and RSPCA use a similar word "put to sleep"
on
all the unwanted or abandoned animals.
We treat the boat people same discompassionate way. We can spend a
fraction
of the money we spend now and treat them
with the dignity they deserve.
We can't take them all, nor we should, to be fair to the people who are
waiting years on the normal channels.
Sending them back is still possible while processing them on-shore.
We already do that. Nobody can stop if the Australian people want to
update
the migration act to allow that happen without
violating the constitution or existing migration laws.







There's no such animal.

Wrong, as always.

Right, but not always


and they do, there is nothing illegal about what they are doing
and
so
no way for them to go to jail.

'cos nobody's gives a rat's arse.

Cos it aint illegal.

Of course it's illegal to kill animals without giving due time to
find
a
foster home, etc.

Have fun listing even a single law that says anything like that.

Legislation changes from state to state. Oz consitution allows each
states
run their own bullshit show regarding animal welfare.
Funny, they haven't done the same thing about boat people.

Read at your own time and find it.

http://kb.rspca.org.au/What-is-the-Australian-legislation-governing-animal-welfare_264.html



But they are so flooded with abandoned pets, they simply can't
handle
the
numbers,
hence they put them down.

And there is nothing illegal about that.

Of course it's illegal stupid.
If you interpret the clauses of animal welfare acts in each state, it
will
be. But, nobody gives a shit, 'cos there sre so many abandoned
animals.
Their lives are of little value, comaring to ours.
We momentarily speed on the roads, and never get caught. Coppers do
that
too, but it's illegal, right?
They kill animals in pounds all the time. Perfectly healthy animals,
'cos
nobody wants them and the staff/rangers either have no time/cant be
bothered
to find owners/foster homes.
This is the reason there are many animal shelters with no affiliation
with
the government. dedicated to save as many as possible.
I volunteer and donate, that's why I know my shit.


I know, 'cos I volunteer in shelters, rspca, etc.

Irrelevant to what is illegal.

Number of abandoned pets are lot higher than 'boat people'
arrivals.

Irrelevant.

Totally relevant.

Completely irrelevant.

None of the rest of your peurile silly shit worth bothering with.

If you cant do any better than this juvenile shit, you'll just be
ignored.


So, the fuckers eventually 'have to' kill some of the perfectly
healthy
cats and dogs, since there is no room for them in the pounds

Because no one wants them at all.

Exactly my point. just like boat people, ha?!!


(and the cats, if they become feral, they are bad news for
natives,
so
there's a good excuse to kill them in vast numbers)

That’s not the reason they are killed.

No. 'cos they can't handle the numbers.


Retarded pollies like Coward and Abattoire would've like to try
that
on
boat people too, eh?!!

That’s what the voters want. You get to like that or lump it.

That's why we lumped it to tiny roll of poop and showed it with him
down
the sewer where he belongs.
Same thing is about to happen to his star pupil.
Wait and enjoy when that happens. Then he can goto the old island
and
start royal bum sniffing(and you too).


I think constitution or something get in their way.

You're wrong, as always.

I'm right (with flying colours)


The law dictates they are to keep them for a mandatory length
of
time

Yes.

and never to kill, if they are microchipped or have owner tags.

Wrong when the owner cannot be found because they have
not bothered to keep the owner information up to date.

And the vast bulk of them arent microchipped anyway.


They have adoption programs affiliated with RSPCA.

Wrong.

Right.

Nope.

Yep, stupid. I kow 'cos I visit and volunteer.
Some places RSPCA shelter is basically the local pound, which is a
better
IMO, 'cos most of the shit happens in council pounds.
I've seen how 'humanely' they put down animals. Bullshit it is.
I know lot of shit, you couldn't have a chance in hell finding on
your
little wheelchair.


Dunno about your town though.

Or about anything else at all either.

Certainly know more about pounds and RSPCA(and refugees), rather
than
bullshitting on google information.


Some areas the pound is basically RSPCA shelter.

Nowhere is that what happens.

Bullshit! I know 'cos I go and visit/volunteer in those places.
Just talk about things you have some chance of knowing man.


Either you are bullshitting

Nope.

or you are passing somebody else's bullshit.

Nope. That direct from the individual that does find
new homes for at least some of the dogs, and was
quoted saying that in the local newspaper, and
there was no denial of that from the council.

And about a third of the dogs too.

It shouldn't be an election horse cart for the major parties
to
fart around with our future and money.
Decent thing to do is to let them come here and send them
back
accordingly as we did with Vietnamese and Bosnians.

We did nothing of the sort with the Vietnamese.

And we didn’t see anything like a THOUSAND A WEEK of those.

Yep, at the peak of Bosnian and Vietnam issues, it was much
more
than
that.

Wrong, as always.

It took the Dud's complete and utter fucking up
of everything he touches to produce that result.

He only fucked up boat people issue and insulation thing.

He fucked up EVERYTHING he touched.

He fucked up the NBN completely, going for $50B
pissed against the wall when he discovered that no
one was prepared to tender for his hare brained FTTN.

He pissed billions against the wall on school halls that
we did not need.

He handed out thousands to those who did not need anything.

He fucked up the mining tax completely.

He couldn’t even work out how to return the budget to surplus
either.

He fucked up the ETS completely.

The boat thing, he could've fixed,

Bullshit.

but got kicked out before that.

More bullshit.

The rest are all achievements.

And even more pig ignorant bullshit.

We can always use our navy to catch the people smugglers and
send
some of them to long jail terms to rot.

The people smugglers aren't on the fucking boats.

Some are, some not.

None are.

And the bums on the boats give them up when faced with lengthy
jail
terms.

None of them get lengthy jail terms.

That's how some of them were caught.

Bullshit.

The issue is that major parties exploit it, close to
elections,
while burying our real problems.

That is currently a MUCH bigger problem than anything else.

The keyword is 'currently',

Nope, not while ever we see THOUSANDS A WEEK.

and only 'cos we blow it out of proportions closer to
elections.

Bullshit, its been a problem all this fucking year.

If we are genuine about our resentment towards people
smugglers,
then there's nothing to stop us from catching the morons and
let
them suffer in jail with the resources we have now.

Pity they are in Indonesia.

And a fair number of them are here, they are Australian
citizens,
who
happens to be former refugees.

Pity isnt even possible to 'catch' those.

This is why it's important to work closely with Indonesia,
instead
of
pissing them off like stupid Abbot gang is doing now.

Even sillier.

AFP can always track them down in Indonesia with the help of
Indonesian pollys.

Even sillier.

Not sure what happens after that.

They've stopped coming because PNG is
much worse than where they are coming from.

For ecomomic boat arrivals, yet. But, there are plenty of
desparate
refugees among them.

None of them want to end up in PNG either.

They won't They will end up in here eventually, you watch
and
see.


And there is nothing so called about it, they are just
economic
migrants.

That's bullshit.

Its fact.

Absolute bullshit.

It’s a fact.
Absolute bullshit

Believing in bullshit ain't gonna fix the issue.

The Dud fixed it great, eh ? ONLY A THOUSAND A FUCKING
WEEK.

Didn't, but didn't make it any worse either.
There ain't a silver bullet. Just random shooting. Some
works,
some don't.


Even libs don't believe in that.
Bob Carr mangled something like that, but that's just
empty
pre-election
slogans.

But doesn't negate the fact that we can't take them
all.

So we need to make it clear to them that they will end
up
in
PNG and be much worse off there than were they came
from.

Yes, we do need to make 'it clear', but without pissing
and
shitting on
ourselves.

You're the only one doing that.

What have you been doing on the wheelchair lately?!!



That way, the billions that's being pissed against
the
wall
to deter
people smugglers using off-shore processing, won't be
necessary.

Wrong. That’s the only thing that has any possibility
of
stopping
them.

You can't stop them.

Howard did.

Coward didn't do jackshit other than wanking along with
Bush.


You can only manage to a level that it won't be a pain
in
the
arse for
the Australian public.

Bullshit.

Fact.


And that money may as well put into the NBN and
Gonski
reforms.

There are much better things to put it into.

That's debatable.

Nope.

spending like a drunken sailor that Labor has done
ever
since the voters were actually stupid enough to
make
the Dud PM.

They were almost stupid enough to make a Coward with
a
half
brain, PM
for a decade. So, anything can happen in this
country.
Take
my word
on that, dude.

Nope, I'll flush it where it belongs, dud.

KRudd was the best they ever did with democracy.
Beating
was good
too. The rest were sleepwalkers.

He'll be flushed where he belongs, just like Cheating
was.

Whitless in spades.

Yep. You are eating thanks to them.

Pigs arse I am.

You should kiss Labor pollys arses for keep you going.


Without his medicare, you will be lost under the beds
of
public
hospitals.

Even sillier.

And the maggots will still refuse to get anywhere near
you.
;-)


So, show some gratitute old timer,

That fool didn’t do a damned thing for me except provide
a
bit of entertainment when he was flushed where he
belongs.

Same with the Dud, you watch.

I've already had that when Juliar flushed herself too.

Lets hope you get the same entertainment when Libs get
flushed
in this
election.


Some should take him out the back and put a
bullet
in
the back
of the neck.

Oh, you violent violent man!!! :))

I didn’t say I'd to that myself.

Carl Williams didn't do most of his killings by
himself
either.
I'm sure you've got enough saving to hire a hit
man.

You don’t need to pay loonys anything much.

The trick is to run barefoot thru the dog shit
between
their ears.

Well, that's democracy. If you know a better
political
system and a
polity, feel free to share with us.

Just how many of you are there between those ears, boy
?




We carked it, attempting on Marx' version of
communism,
didn't we?!

Nope. We were never that stupid.

By that I didn't mean 'we' Aussie bummers, I meant the
human
race.

**** all of the human race was actually that stupid.

I know. Only super humans like you are not stupid,
right?!!


I know, you've never been outside the country,

Guess who has got egg all over its silly little face,
yet
again.

I've spent a lot more time out of the country than you
have,
boy.

Impossible. I've spend more time overseas than my half
life
time, so far.


since you are scared crap of flying(or sailing).

Unlikely given that I have owned and flown a number of
planes,
child.

You are bullshitting man.


So, this is the only landscape you know about, right?!

Wrong, as always.

Where else?! X'mas island?!!


Problem is that, I don't think you got balls to do
the
things you
would like to do, right?!!! :))

You have absolutely no idea how many I have done
that
to
already.

Have a look at what happened to a sysop in fidonet
sometime.

Hint: He's dead.

Crap!!! You killed a fidonet sysop?!! Man, you should
to
some time
for that. :))

I should be rewarded and was.

Care to share how you were rewarded??!!

He was gone.

And that's a reward?! Man, you are a pretty evil little
old
fella. :))


I'm hoping to find a way to introduce you to Carl
William's cell
mate. :)

Taint gunna happen, he's never gunna get out now.

On 17th July 2013 I delivered a talk at the
CommsDay
Wholesale
and Data Centre Summit in Sydney about the NBN
called
“The
Ideal Wholesale NBN Market”. Simon Hackett,
Internode
founder

This talk proposes just a few of the many ways
in
which the
build cost, build time, and operating cost of
the
FTTH NBN
could be lowered (perhaps dramatically lowered)
by
auditing the
entire existing design and by applying the
fruits
of
some
lateral thinking about what is really needed to
make
the
network work – and what the network can do
without.
 
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Baron

Jan 1, 1970
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Wow ! Must be going for a record...
The longest newspost in history.
 
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F Murtz

Jan 1, 1970
0
Your experties on Chemistry and language is amazing!
Can't you do better than picking on a simple typo?!
Not all of us have the luxury of a spell checker backed newsreader.
alt.languages.english is good place for such discussions/debates.
You sound like somebody's avatar's avatar!
A typo is usually involving adjacent letters, yours seem to be
dyslexic,Although I should not pick on that.
 
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atec77

Jan 1, 1970
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It's the usenet version of verbal diarrhoea....
yes your response is nonsensical in my post is accurate and yours is shite

--









X-No-Archive: Yes
 
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Damian

Jan 1, 1970
0
F Murtz said:
A typo is usually involving adjacent letters, yours seem to be
dyslexic,Although I should not pick on that.

And you seem to be intellectually disabled to understand the difference
between a typo and dyslexia.
I won't pick on that though.
 
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F Murtz

Jan 1, 1970
0
Damian said:
And you seem to be intellectually disabled to understand the difference
between a typo and dyslexia.
I won't pick on that though.


:)
 
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Damian

Jan 1, 1970
0
Rod Speed said:
Its no worse than any injection, fuckwit.


Wrong, as always.



Have fun listing even a single law that says anything like that.


And there is nothing illegal about that.


Irrelevant to what is illegal.



Completely irrelevant.

None of the rest of your peurile silly shit worth bothering with.

If you cant do any better than this juvenile shit, you'll just be ignored.

So, what happened to you big little fella?!
Did you lose your manhood, so you can't comment on our money getting pissed
on corrupted pollies in a pacific banana republic in the name of stopping a
'boat invasion'?!!!
 
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