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Bob La Londe

Jan 1, 1970
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I remember about a million years ago... or maybe it was last week. I read
about the Cat 5 standard and how it was done to allow for the future
speration and operation of voice and data over the same cable.

A couple weeks ago, or maybe a few years ago I remember discussing this with
somebody and wondering why all the current applications and standards seem
to ignore that and have us running seperate cat 5 cables for voice and data.
Then I found this on Napco's website under structured wiring:

Securi-Smart NET8
Securi-Smart NET8, the only wiring system on the Market that provides for 2
Telephone Lines and a 10/100 Base Ethernet connections over a single CAT5e
wire.

LOL. How interesting. I need to keep up with the product innovations of my
own main alarm provider.


--
Sincerly,
The guy who makes the final decision on who we buy from.
Bob La Londe

The Security Consultant
Bob La Londe - Owner
P.O. Box 5720
Yuma, Az 85366

(928) 782-9765 ofc
(928) 782-7873 fax

Licensed Contractor
ROC103044 & ROC103047
 
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Jim

Jan 1, 1970
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I remember about a million years ago... or maybe it was last week.  I read
about the Cat 5 standard and how it was done to allow for the future
speration and operation of voice and data over the same cable.

A couple weeks ago, or maybe a few years ago I remember discussing this with
somebody and wondering why all the current applications and standards seem
to ignore that and have us running seperate cat 5 cables for voice and data.
Then I found this on Napco's website under structured wiring:

Securi-Smart NET8
Securi-Smart NET8, the only wiring system on the Market that provides for2
Telephone Lines and a 10/100 Base Ethernet connections over a single CAT5e
wire.

LOL.  How interesting.  I need to keep up with the product innovations of my
own main alarm provider.

As far as I know, this is nothing new. Only when necessary but when
I've had to, I've run both telephone and data on one Cat 5. Also have
run two data lines on one Cat 5. It's only been in residential, so
maybe it's just the short runs that have allowed it to be trouble
free.
 
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West Alarm

Jan 1, 1970
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I remember about a million years ago... or maybe it was last week. I read
about the Cat 5 standard and how it was done to allow for the future
speration and operation of voice and data over the same cable.

A couple weeks ago, or maybe a few years ago I remember discussing this with
somebody and wondering why all the current applications and standards seem
to ignore that and have us running seperate cat 5 cables for voice and data.
Then I found this on Napco's website under structured wiring:

Securi-Smart NET8
Securi-Smart NET8, the only wiring system on the Market that provides for 2
Telephone Lines and a 10/100 Base Ethernet connections over a single CAT5e
wire.

LOL. How interesting. I need to keep up with the product innovations of my
own main alarm provider.


It's not that flocking complicated....


Ethernet uses 4 conductors, a phone line uses two conductors.


add it up...

Ethernet 4
phonel1 2
phonel2 2

equals 8

Wow! what a flocking breakthrough Napco made!

I want to sell you a London bridge in Arizona.. ohhh, nevermind-- I
see you're on the dealer list! hahahah
 
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Steve

Jan 1, 1970
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Bob La Londe said:
I remember about a million years ago... or maybe it was last week. I read
about the Cat 5 standard and how it was done to allow for the future
speration and operation of voice and data over the same cable.

A couple weeks ago, or maybe a few years ago I remember discussing this
with somebody and wondering why all the current applications and standards
seem to ignore that and have us running seperate cat 5 cables for voice
and data. Then I found this on Napco's website under structured wiring:

Securi-Smart NET8
Securi-Smart NET8, the only wiring system on the Market that provides for
2 Telephone Lines and a 10/100 Base Ethernet connections over a single
CAT5e wire.

LOL. How interesting. I need to keep up with the product innovations of
my own main alarm provider.

Its possible, but not preferred practice
 
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Bob La Londe

Jan 1, 1970
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Steve said:
Its possible, but not preferred practice


I was just laughing about it. The original standards was to allow that use,
and then all the new standards seem to ignore it, and then Napco re-invents
the wheel.


--
Sincerly,
The guy who makes the final decision on who we buy from.
Bob La Londe

The Security Consultant
Bob La Londe - Owner
P.O. Box 5720
Yuma, Az 85366

(928) 782-9765 ofc
(928) 782-7873 fax

Licensed Contractor
ROC103044 & ROC103047
 
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Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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cat 6 is a pain.

and to tell ya the truth...I dunno why the heck we're running Cat in
residential anyway...with cheaper/better/easier wifi available it's dumb to
run all this cat stuff these days.

yah but I do it too, but I only run two or three Cat lines for puter ports -
kitchen, office, den or whatever.




|
| | >I remember about a million years ago... or maybe it was last week. I
read
| >about the Cat 5 standard and how it was done to allow for the future
| >speration and operation of voice and data over the same cable.
| >
| > A couple weeks ago, or maybe a few years ago I remember discussing this
| > with somebody and wondering why all the current applications and
standards
| > seem to ignore that and have us running seperate cat 5 cables for voice
| > and data. Then I found this on Napco's website under structured wiring:
| >
| > Securi-Smart NET8
| > Securi-Smart NET8, the only wiring system on the Market that provides
for
| > 2 Telephone Lines and a 10/100 Base Ethernet connections over a single
| > CAT5e wire.
| >
| > LOL. How interesting. I need to keep up with the product innovations
of
| > my own main alarm provider.
|
|
|
| At less than 10 cent per foot per cable, I usually run 2 Cat 5e (solid)
| cables to each data/phone location. Same with Coax- 2 RG6 Quads- 1 white &
1
| black. Allows flexibility later on. Many of the "pros" are now using Cat 6
| and/or fiber for data.
|
|
 
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Anders

Jan 1, 1970
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Securi-Smart NET8, the only wiring system on the Market that provides for
....


Its possible, but not preferred practice

Actually it's NOT RECOMMENDED. Phone lines are relatively speaking
high voltage compared to Ethernet. Even if you don't get continous
interference issues, there is a good chance you'll see transients
coming in over the phone line that may interfere or even physically
harm the Ethernet connected equipment.

Gigabit Ethernet uses all four pairs in the cable, so upgrading the
network is out of the question.

Also, if you ever crosswire the phone line into a network card you
have a good chance of creating smoke.

This is like swapping colors in an electric install. Sure the green
wire works just as well as the black for "hot", but the guy that
comes after you may get a surprise...

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West Alarm

Jan 1, 1970
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At less than 10 cent per foot per cable, I usually run 2 Cat 5e (solid)
cables to each data/phone location. Same with Coax- 2 RG6 Quads- 1 white & 1
black. Allows flexibility later on. Many of the "pros" are now using Cat 6
and/or fiber for data.


What is all the hub-bub about the quad shield coax?
 
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Barney

Jan 1, 1970
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West Alarm said:
What is all the hub-bub about the quad shield coax?

if you're in the big city it helps to keep out interference
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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West Alarm wrote:

What is all the hub-bub about the quad shield coax?


Is it anything like wearing an extra condom?
 
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