Chubb 206

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Hi All,

I just bought a 30yrs old house and it comes with Chubb 206 alarm
system. I can see that it is a 6 zone alarm and has a telephone line
on board the main controller.

I did some house renovation and since then 1 of my zone area is not
working. I am hoping some expert in alarm system not necessary chubb
to give me some sound advice.

I want to know whether are all zones usually wired as in series ?.
Lets say I have 2 doors (magnetic contact) and 2 windows
(vibration)....are there all connected in series ?

In addition how does the backup battery connected ? Red (+) and Black
(negative) are connected to the same polarity on the board or
opposite ?

Thanx

Raymond

 

[Frank Olson]

Hi All,

I just bought a 30yrs old house and it comes with Chubb 206 alarm
system. I can see that it is a 6 zone alarm and has a telephone line
on board the main controller.

I did some house renovation and since then 1 of my zone area is not
working. I am hoping some expert in alarm system not necessary chubb
to give me some sound advice.

I want to know whether are all zones usually wired as in series ?.
Lets say I have 2 doors (magnetic contact) and 2 windows
(vibration)....are there all connected in series ?

In addition how does the backup battery connected ? Red (+) and Black
(negative) are connected to the same polarity on the board or
opposite ?

Thanx

Raymond

You're working with a "dinosaur". For a paltry fee, you can update your
system to something a little more modern. Contact a local dealer and
purchase a new panel and keypad combo from them. You might want to call
them in to evaluate your system and make some recommendations for
additional protection (like smoke and heat detectors for instance).
Since you own the equipment already installed, and it's been pre-wired
(to a certain extent), your Dealer's in a better position to see what's
needed to get the existing system up and running. You may also wish to
include some home automation features (turn on lights, etc.) which isn't
available through your present control.

To answer your question... The contacts are normally closed and wired
in series from the zone terminals on the main board. The battery is
connected with the red lead going to "positive" and the black to
"negative". You must power up the system first (with AC) before
connecting the battery. During the course of your reno, make sure that
none of the magnets have "disappeared" from your windows. They could
also have accidentally snipped the wires going to the switches.

Good luck!!!

 

[Robert L Bass]

I want to know whether are all zones usually

wired as in series ? Lets say I have 2 doors
(magnetic contact) and 2 windows (vibration)
....are there all connected in series ?

Most burglar alarm circuits are wired in series.
The circuit opens when the door or window
opens. There are a few that are wired in parallel
but those are rare.

In addition how does the backup battery
connected ? Red (+) and Black (negative)
are connected to the same polarity on the
board or opposite ?

Red (+) goes to the plus terminal and black (-)
to the minus. If the battery is older than five
years replace it. They're cheap and readily
available at RatShak or online. It's probably
a 12 Volt, 4.0 Amp Hour battery but replace it
with a 12 Volt, 7.0 Amp Hour model. They
retail for about $15.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>

 

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You're working with a "dinosaur". For a paltry fee, you can update your
system to something a little more modern. Contact a local dealer and
purchase a new panel and keypad combo from them. You might want to call
them in to evaluate your system and make some recommendations for
additional protection (like smoke and heat detectors for instance).
Since you own the equipment already installed, and it's been pre-wired
(to a certain extent), your Dealer's in a better position to see what's
needed to get the existing system up and running. You may also wish to
include some home automation features (turn on lights, etc.) which isn't
available through your present control.

To answer your question... The contacts are normally closed and wired
in series from the zone terminals on the main board. The battery is
connected with the red lead going to "positive" and the black to
"negative". You must power up the system first (with AC) before
connecting the battery. During the course of your reno, make sure that
none of the magnets have "disappeared" from your windows. They could
also have accidentally snipped the wires going to the switches.

Good luck!!!

Hi Frank,

Nice of you to answer me. Yeah, I know I am working with a dinosaur
but with my budget constraint and I don't trust any alarm expert
around my area.....I try to do the best I can. I know its difficult
but I will try cause it will really cost me a bomb to upgrade the
system and also all my money had been used up for the house
renovation. Thus no more budget to do any home automation except
simple and easy DIY.

Anyway, if its a dinosaur system, will you be anyway familiar with
this ? Do you know where I can find the technical or service manual
plus circuit diagram ?

Thanx

 

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Most burglar alarm circuits are wired in series.
The circuit opens when the door or window
opens. There are a few that are wired in parallel
but those are rare.


Red (+) goes to the plus terminal and black (-)
to the minus. If the battery is older than five
years replace it. They're cheap and readily
available at RatShak or online. It's probably
a 12 Volt, 4.0 Amp Hour battery but replace it
with a 12 Volt, 7.0 Amp Hour model. They
retail for about $15.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>

Hi Robert,

Thanx for the info.

Last week I try to disconnect 1 wire from the main controller while
the system was in standby (but not arm). I suspect the wire was 1 of
the zones. I was surprised and stunned when the alarm sounded though
it is not arm. Is this normal ? The reason I did this was because I
wanted to pull out the trouble zone so that I can arm the system with
the rest of the zones working right. I plan to troubleshoot the
problematic zone later. Am I doing it right ?

Thanx

 

[Robert L Bass]

Last week I try to disconnect 1 wire from

the main controller while the system was
in standby (but not arm). I suspect the
wire was 1 of the zones. I was surprised
and stunned when the alarm sounded
though it is not arm. Is this normal?

There are several possible reasons this happened.
If the zone you pulled out is configured as a 24-hour
(always armed) zone it would go into alarm.

If it was a tamper zone (designed to protect
components against someone opening a
cover or removing a sensor) that could go off
even with the alarm disarmed.

The reason I did this was because I wanted
to pull out the trouble zone so that I can
arm the system with the rest of the zones
working right. I plan to troubleshoot the
problematic zone later. Am I doing it right?

That's the normal approach. However, as
another person pointed out your system is
very old and might not give good service
anyway. If you don't mind a little DIY effort
you can replace the controls with something
modern and probably a lot easier to service.
A decent 8-zone alarm panel with keypad will
set you back less than $110.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>

 

[sairay]

hmmm....interesting. I understand it will cost you about $110 but in
my country that will translate to $1xxx (3 digits) and you can't get
any DIY stuff yourself. Unless you know someone inside the company who
is willing to sell you the part cheaply. We do not have those big DIY
superstore here in my country.

Robert, on the zone bypass if all the zones are set for tamper does
that means I cannot bypass by hardware. Instead I would have to do it
by program ? If this is the case I will be in bigger trouble cause I
don't have the service instruction manual (program code). Any advice ?

The reason I am reluctant to ask the chubb guy or any security expert
to fix the problem is because I don't have anybody at home during the
daytime and worry that they know every details on my alarm system.
Just yesterday, my neigbour house was broken into in broad daylight. 2
fellow drove their cars right into the car porch bypassing/opening his
auto-gate with a master frequencies.


Thanx

 

[Robert L Bass]

hmmm....interesting. I understand it will

cost you about $110 but in my country
that will translate to $1xxx (3 digits)...

What country?

and you can't get any DIY stuff yourself...

That's awful!

Unless you know someone inside the
company who is willing to sell you the
part cheaply. We do not have those
big DIY superstore here in my country.

Most of the DIY stores in this country are
actually small businesses. My website is
one of the largest amd we do considerable
volume but we're quite small -- only three
people.

Robert, on the zone bypass if all the
zones are set for tamper does that
means I cannot bypass by hardware...

Sorry, I wasn't being clear. There might
be one zone set for tamper. It would be
very unusual to have all zones that way.
Without a manual and some information
on how your particular system is set up
it would be difficult walking you through
the system.

I don't have Chubb manuals but another
fellow who frequents this newsgroup
probably does. His name is Jim Rojas.
Check with him first.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>

 

[Frank Olson]

Hi Frank,

Nice of you to answer me. Yeah, I know I am working with a dinosaur
but with my budget constraint and I don't trust any alarm expert
around my area.....I try to do the best I can. I know its difficult
but I will try cause it will really cost me a bomb to upgrade the
system and also all my money had been used up for the house
renovation. Thus no more budget to do any home automation except
simple and easy DIY.

Anyway, if its a dinosaur system, will you be anyway familiar with
this ? Do you know where I can find the technical or service manual
plus circuit diagram ?

Thanx

I've got manuals for all the Chubb panels (I used to work for them) but
your's is so "simple" the documentation is just as rudimentary. I've
provided you everything you need to know to "DIY". What you need now is
a VOM and some patience.

Good luck!!

 

[Frank Olson]

hmmm....interesting. I understand it will cost you about $110 but in
my country that will translate to $1xxx (3 digits) and you can't get
any DIY stuff yourself. Unless you know someone inside the company who
is willing to sell you the part cheaply. We do not have those big DIY
superstore here in my country.

Robert, on the zone bypass if all the zones are set for tamper does
that means I cannot bypass by hardware.

You can bypass tamper zones (on all of the Chubb products except for
"ChubbSmart" and later in which case you'll need to have a "manager code").

Instead I would have to do it
by program ? If this is the case I will be in bigger trouble cause I
don't have the service instruction manual (program code). Any advice ?

Call Chubb.

The reason I am reluctant to ask the chubb guy or any security expert
to fix the problem is because I don't have anybody at home during the
daytime and worry that they know every details on my alarm system.

They already do. Chubb is one of the biggest security providers in the
world. Everyone they employ are "screened", licensed (if required in
the jurisdiction), and bonded. You needn't worry. They're far more
professional and trustworthy than the Felon you're addressing this
particular message to.

Just yesterday, my neigbour house was broken into in broad daylight. 2
fellow drove their cars right into the car porch bypassing/opening his
auto-gate with a master frequencies.

Chances are the perps are from Belgium (where they're well versed in
wireless technology and have the ability to compromise any security
system with a pair of headphones and the foil from a package of chocolate.

 

[GROUP MODERATOR]

that's pretty funny. this cat doesn't trust security professionals in his
own town that he could see and check up on but he'll trust an unknown
scammer on the internet?

 

[sairay]

Hi All,

Well FYI I'm from technical background though not in the area of
security alarm. Btw, I'm not from Jpn though I was there this week on
business trip. I'm from Malaysia. The IP address was Jpn but if u
check now its from My.

And FYI, we don't have CHUBB here anymore,........its has been taken
over ....localized in my country. Furthermore in My........security is
a major issue. My neighbor house was broken into 3 days ago and then 2
days ago thief climb over my house to steal shoes and etc. No joke.
Its true and thats why I prefer not to get the service of "CHUBB" or
any other security firm.

Since I know a little bit of this and that I prefer to DIY myself and
make it unique. Am thinking of expanding the system to include phone
lines call and etc.......therefore I thought I get some expert advice
from people in this field.

Thanx Robert, I will try to look for Jim and see can get any help.

Anyway, are there a lot of scammer around here ? Group moderator pls
advice ? Not sure what you mean ?

Thanx all for taking the time to comment on this post. Really
appreciate it.