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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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Questions:
a) Am I really the last living sane person left?

Relative to what? >:->
b) Heaven knows, I'm no (financial or otherwise) genius, but is
selling more for less really the way to become wealthy?

I've heard that the way to make a small fortune is quite simple -
just start out with a large one. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Richard Henry

Jan 1, 1970
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Most professors seem to get an itch, sooner or later, to write a textbook...
and many of them then proceed to require that same textbook for their
students.

If that's not a good way to stifle your student's ability to get more than one
point of view on a subject, I don't know what is. :)

Of course, many professors do have good books, I just think the savvier
professor would make his or her own book a recommended second book rather than
the primary one for a course.

I had a comp. sci. professor use his own text in a course that was best
described as, "Assembly language on a VAX." It was an OK book, I suppose, but
nothing to compare to the classic CS books out there. I do recall learning a
few things about magnetic tapes that I didn't already know -- something that
was about 95% useless already at the time, but still interesting. (I kinda
wish I'd had some EE class where they had discussed tubes at least a little,
rather than immediately relegating them to the corners of anachronisms...)

I started college as a Physics major and was doing pretty well -
Dean's List most semesters. Then in my junior year I took Theoretical
Mechanics from a professor who was writing his own text on the
subject. It was the required text for the class, even though it was
not yet completed. Every class we got a sheaf of photocopies of
handwritten manuscript. On top of that, he had a thick Balkan accent
(his written English and penmanship were impeccable, however).

The next semester I was wavering between Mathematics and Literature
majors, and eventually (12 years later) graduated with an oxymoronic
BA degree in Computer Science.
 
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Homer J Simpson

Jan 1, 1970
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( I cut my teeth on an ancient GE transistor data book... and fried a
LOT of stuff... frying and analysing WHY is the best teacher ;-)

I keep six honest serving-men
(They taught me all I knew);
Their names are What and Why and When
And How and Where and Who.

-- Rudyard Kipling
 
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joseph2k

Jan 1, 1970
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Joerg said:
Yesterday at a client I got fooled by one of them *tools*. Scope was
reading funny stuff. Turns out the cal trim cap in a Tek P6137 had
croaked. Anyone have a schematic for that one?

Oh, and ye olde HP3585 analyzer is dead. Shippers dropped it, internal
CRT damage, frame cracked etc. So sad. Almost like seeing a smashed up
vintage race car :-(
Inexcusable on their part. Make them replce it.
 
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joseph2k

Jan 1, 1970
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Rich said:
[top-post repaired]
Greetings,

Do you suppose that I would value the opinion of some anonymous
librarian over those of the venerated contributors of this newsgroup?
Horrors!

I'd trust an engineering librarian more than I'd trust the kounter
kiddie at Border's.

Cheers!
Rich
Have you found an "engineering librarian"? If so, where?
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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Rich said:
Have you checked the school's engineering library?

[top-post repaired]
Greetings,

Do you suppose that I would value the opinion of some anonymous
librarian over those of the venerated contributors of this newsgroup?
Horrors!

I'd trust an engineering librarian more than I'd trust the kounter
kiddie at Border's.

Cheers!
Rich
Have you found an "engineering librarian"? If so, where?
An engineering library?
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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Joerg wrote: ....
Inexcusable on their part. Make them replce it.

If you signed for it before inspecting it, you're screwed. I had a
situation just yesterday - the PHB was out on some errand, and when
some shipping guy showed up with the docs and the parts, I almost
shat myself, because it was then my responsibility to inspect and
sign for over $10,000 worth of parts. EEk!

Luckily, before I had to put my head on the block, the PHB showed up,
and he signed for it; the box was there and evidently it wasn't worth
inspecting, but that wasn't my call.

Cheers!
Rich
 
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RST Engineering \(jw\)

Jan 1, 1970
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The sixth edition (1962) and seventh edition (1964) still teach me something
new (or old, once forgotten) every now and again.

Jim



The GE Transistor Manual, 7th Edition, is a classic example.
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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Rich said:
Have you checked the school's engineering library?

[top-post repaired]
Greetings,

Do you suppose that I would value the opinion of some anonymous
librarian over those of the venerated contributors of this newsgroup?
Horrors!

I'd trust an engineering librarian more than I'd trust the kounter
kiddie at Border's.
Have you found an "engineering librarian"? If so, where?

At the University of Minnesota, for one. If you're really looking for
one, you might check with Win Hill, who still works at Hahvahd, or
Jim Thompson, who seems to have some kind of connection to Massachusetts
Institute of Technology.

I used to get a kick out of telling people that I'm from "MIT", without
revealing that it stands for "Minnesota Institute of Technology". ;-)

The truth is, I've had 40 years or BS in the School of Hard Knocks. ;-D

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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Rich said:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:09:08 +0000, Richard Kanarek wrote:

Have you checked the school's engineering library?

[top-post repaired]

Greetings,

Do you suppose that I would value the opinion of some anonymous
librarian over those of the venerated contributors of this newsgroup?
Horrors!

I'd trust an engineering librarian more than I'd trust the kounter
kiddie at Border's.

Cheers!
Rich
Have you found an "engineering librarian"? If so, where?
An engineering library?

Most better companies have their own library. Sperry/Honeywell even
had a librarian.

...Jim Thompson
 
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Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
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joseph2k said:
Joerg wrote:



Inexcusable on their part. Make them replce it.


It was insured and now their are duking it out. I had a similar thing
happen a long time ago. Sea container got dropped, smashing lots of
stuff inside. The insurance company balked and balked until I finally
threatened to notify the insurance commissioner in their state, plus
call the (huge) shipping company about the "performance" of their
preferred insurance carrier. Boy did that get their attention. I had a
check within the week.
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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To-Email- said:
Rich Grise wrote:

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:09:08 +0000, Richard Kanarek wrote:

Have you checked the school's engineering library?

[top-post repaired]

Greetings,

Do you suppose that I would value the opinion of some anonymous
librarian over those of the venerated contributors of this newsgroup?
Horrors!

I'd trust an engineering librarian more than I'd trust the kounter
kiddie at Border's.

Cheers!
Rich
Have you found an "engineering librarian"? If so, where?
An engineering library?

Most better companies have their own library. Sperry/Honeywell even
had a librarian.

IBM used to have their own librarians. They hire the work out to the
local colleges now. It works out surprisingly well, except the moved
the library from the development site to the a manufacturing site.
The "card catalog" is on-line and books come by internal mail from
whatever site they happen to be shelved.
 
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RST Engineering \(jw\)

Jan 1, 1970
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So did Teledyne Ryan in San Diego, and she was one hell of a good resource
librarian.

Jim
 
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joseph2k

Jan 1, 1970
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Rich said:
If you signed for it before inspecting it, you're screwed. I had a
situation just yesterday - the PHB was out on some errand, and when
some shipping guy showed up with the docs and the parts, I almost
shat myself, because it was then my responsibility to inspect and
sign for over $10,000 worth of parts. EEk!

Luckily, before I had to put my head on the block, the PHB showed up,
and he signed for it; the box was there and evidently it wasn't worth
inspecting, but that wasn't my call.

Cheers!
Rich
Not necessarily, there is the legal concept of concealed damage; just
because the outside of the box looks OK does not mean that the shipped
product inside is guaranteed to be OK. There is also a possible liability
on whoever packaged the unit for shipping. The damage is real, the tort
exists.
 
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joseph2k

Jan 1, 1970
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krw said:
Rich said:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:09:08 +0000, Richard Kanarek wrote:

Have you checked the school's engineering library?

[top-post repaired]

Greetings,

Do you suppose that I would value the opinion of some anonymous
librarian over those of the venerated contributors of this newsgroup?
Horrors!

I'd trust an engineering librarian more than I'd trust the kounter
kiddie at Border's.

Cheers!
Rich
Have you found an "engineering librarian"? If so, where?
An engineering library?
Listing a perhaps probable place that may or may not exist is hardly the
same as providing an instance.
 
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joseph2k

Jan 1, 1970
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Rich said:
Rich said:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:09:08 +0000, Richard Kanarek wrote:

Have you checked the school's engineering library?

[top-post repaired]

Greetings,

Do you suppose that I would value the opinion of some anonymous
librarian over those of the venerated contributors of this newsgroup?
Horrors!

I'd trust an engineering librarian more than I'd trust the kounter
kiddie at Border's.
Have you found an "engineering librarian"? If so, where?

At the University of Minnesota, for one. If you're really looking for
one, you might check with Win Hill, who still works at Hahvahd, or
Jim Thompson, who seems to have some kind of connection to Massachusetts
Institute of Technology.

I used to get a kick out of telling people that I'm from "MIT", without
revealing that it stands for "Minnesota Institute of Technology". ;-)

The truth is, I've had 40 years or BS in the School of Hard Knocks. ;-D

Cheers!
Rich
Let's see, you offered a really old recolection of a really good librarian
and two very good engineers instead of an engineering librarian. No cigar.
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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Not necessarily, there is the legal concept of concealed damage; just
because the outside of the box looks OK does not mean that the shipped
product inside is guaranteed to be OK. There is also a possible liability
on whoever packaged the unit for shipping. The damage is real, the tort
exists.

Well, that was kind of my point. The PHB, by signing for the shipment,
accepted all of that liability. If he hadn't shown up, I'd have got out
the utility knife, opened the package and made sure that it was all there,
undamaged, the right alloy, and all of that schtuff just to cover my and
the shipper's tails. :)

Thanks,
Rich
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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krw said:
Rich Grise wrote:

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:09:08 +0000, Richard Kanarek wrote:

Have you checked the school's engineering library?

[top-post repaired]

Greetings,

Do you suppose that I would value the opinion of some anonymous
librarian over those of the venerated contributors of this newsgroup?
Horrors!

I'd trust an engineering librarian more than I'd trust the kounter
kiddie at Border's.

Cheers!
Rich
Have you found an "engineering librarian"? If so, where?
An engineering library?
Listing a perhaps probable place that may or may not exist is hardly the
same as providing an instance.
I thought it was rather obvious where one would find such a place.
Your college didn't have an engineering library (we had both an
Engineering Library and an EE Library)? Most large companies have
them too. While I was being just a little facetious, they are quite
common.
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Joel said:
The latest (5th) edition came out in 2003, but picking up an older edition is
going to leave out very little (as Jim suggests, much of EE is relatively
time-insensitive...).


Some of the books should be loose leaf in binders so you can add a
few pages, every few years.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
( I cut my teeth on an ancient GE transistor data book... and fried a
LOT of stuff... frying and analysing WHY is the best teacher ;-)


UMMM! Fried geranium!


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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