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Thomas Tornblom
- Jan 1, 1970
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My kids have a Denon UD-M30 and UD-M31 micro receiver/cd-player combo,
which works great, except for one thing, the tuners are too wide band.
We have a local FM station on 106.5 MHz, transmitting with 4 kW, and
we're trying to tune into a station transmitting with 1 kW at 106.3
MHz in Stockholm, which is about 80 km from here.
I have stacked two giant FM antennas with a proper stacking filter,
directed at the Stockholm transmitter, and I have great reception on
weak stations way farther away. We also have great reception of a 1 kW
transmitter at 104.7, transmitting from the same location as the one
we're interested in.
Using an old antenna instrument I can see that I have more than a 30
dB difference in signal strength between the 106.3 and 106.5 signals.
I have three receivers which receives 106.3 with fair to good quality,
a Denon AVR-3805, an old digitally tuned Kenwood receiver, and an old
analog tuner. I have also tried an old digitally tuned Pioneer car
stereo, which had absolutely no problems receiving 106.3 from the
antenna wiring in my house.
The small Denons have big problems though, and I believe the problem
is that the IF bandwidth of the filters in the tuners are too wide and
they can't detect the weak 106.3 from the strong 106.5.
I have seen a few sites on the net recommending changing the ceramic
filters to something narrower, and that seems like a reasonable and
fairly simple change.
Is there anyone who have experience and/or schematics for these
tuners? I looked into one of them, and the tuner appears to be a
separate small module, which I didn't open as it seemed like a bit
more work than I was prepared to set aside today.
What bandwidth and how many are the stock filters? I assume something
on the order of 280 kHz, and I'm contemplating replacing some of them
with 180 kHz filters.
Oh, and they both have RDS, which I believe may need slightly more bw
to work reliably.
which works great, except for one thing, the tuners are too wide band.
We have a local FM station on 106.5 MHz, transmitting with 4 kW, and
we're trying to tune into a station transmitting with 1 kW at 106.3
MHz in Stockholm, which is about 80 km from here.
I have stacked two giant FM antennas with a proper stacking filter,
directed at the Stockholm transmitter, and I have great reception on
weak stations way farther away. We also have great reception of a 1 kW
transmitter at 104.7, transmitting from the same location as the one
we're interested in.
Using an old antenna instrument I can see that I have more than a 30
dB difference in signal strength between the 106.3 and 106.5 signals.
I have three receivers which receives 106.3 with fair to good quality,
a Denon AVR-3805, an old digitally tuned Kenwood receiver, and an old
analog tuner. I have also tried an old digitally tuned Pioneer car
stereo, which had absolutely no problems receiving 106.3 from the
antenna wiring in my house.
The small Denons have big problems though, and I believe the problem
is that the IF bandwidth of the filters in the tuners are too wide and
they can't detect the weak 106.3 from the strong 106.5.
I have seen a few sites on the net recommending changing the ceramic
filters to something narrower, and that seems like a reasonable and
fairly simple change.
Is there anyone who have experience and/or schematics for these
tuners? I looked into one of them, and the tuner appears to be a
separate small module, which I didn't open as it seemed like a bit
more work than I was prepared to set aside today.
What bandwidth and how many are the stock filters? I assume something
on the order of 280 kHz, and I'm contemplating replacing some of them
with 180 kHz filters.
Oh, and they both have RDS, which I believe may need slightly more bw
to work reliably.
