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J Jensen

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi

Does anyone know where I can find a good diagram of the basic (ignition)
electrical system of a car? (Preferably on the web). The manual and a
couple books that I have aren't quite enlightening, and I haven't been
able to find anything good with google...

Specifically I'd like to understand what all the basic components are
and how the interrelate. For example, what exactly does Ford's ignition
module do (other than need to be replaced) ?

thanks,
Jeff
 
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John Popelish

Jan 1, 1970
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J said:
Hi

Does anyone know where I can find a good diagram of the basic (ignition)
electrical system of a car? (Preferably on the web). The manual and a
couple books that I have aren't quite enlightening, and I haven't been
able to find anything good with google...

Specifically I'd like to understand what all the basic components are
and how the interrelate. For example, what exactly does Ford's ignition
module do (other than need to be replaced) ?

thanks,
Jeff

That depends on how basic you need.
http://www.icarumba.com/cobrands/co...icar_resourcecenter_encyclopedia_ignition.asp
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/frame...www.autoshop-online.com/auto101/ignition.html
 
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J Jensen

Jan 1, 1970
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John Popelish

Jan 1, 1970
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J said:
Thanks, John.
Those references are pretty good, and maybe I can piece together what I need
from them. But ideally someone would have a picture of the starting circut,
the alternator circut and the ignition circut all in one diagram...

Almost every year, make and model has a different schematic.

Here is a primitive schematic or two (hit the next button:
http://www.tpub.com/content/neets/14176/css/14176_105.htm
It shows a DC generator instead of an alternator.

Here is a GM training schematic collection:
http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/gmprac.pdf
from the Practice section of:
http://www.autoshop101.com/autoshop31.html

You might want to look for a Chiltons or Haynes repair manual at the
local library that covers your vehicle.
 
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Terry Pinnell

Jan 1, 1970
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John Popelish said:
Almost every year, make and model has a different schematic.

Here is a primitive schematic or two (hit the next button:
http://www.tpub.com/content/neets/14176/css/14176_105.htm
It shows a DC generator instead of an alternator.

Here is a GM training schematic collection:
http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/gmprac.pdf
from the Practice section of:
http://www.autoshop101.com/autoshop31.html

You might want to look for a Chiltons or Haynes repair manual at the
local library that covers your vehicle.

I'll study that timely PDF myself, as I'm trying to get access to the
horn relay circuit on a '96 BMW 328 SE please? I want to add a
supplementary circuit.

I've located the appropriate terminals in the fuse/relay box under the
bonnet/hood. Essentially that was luck, as it was the first relay I
tried; yellow one at top left corner. None of them are identified,
either in the fuse box diagram or the service manual.

But that leaves me with the daunting task of getting wires inside.
Anyone here know a convenient 'hole' BTW?. That's why ideally I'd like
access inside the car, i.e. to the horn activation wire, and 12V and
0V too please.

I used to be able to add gadgets to my cars with relative ease a
couple of decades ago... ;-(

Jeff: Hope you don't mind my chipping in to your thread.
 
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John G

Jan 1, 1970
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Terry Pinnell said:
I'll study that timely PDF myself, as I'm trying to get access to the
horn relay circuit on a '96 BMW 328 SE please? I want to add a
supplementary circuit.

I've located the appropriate terminals in the fuse/relay box under the
bonnet/hood. Essentially that was luck, as it was the first relay I
tried; yellow one at top left corner. None of them are identified,
either in the fuse box diagram or the service manual.

But that leaves me with the daunting task of getting wires inside.
Anyone here know a convenient 'hole' BTW?. That's why ideally I'd like
access inside the car, i.e. to the horn activation wire, and 12V and
0V too please.

I used to be able to add gadgets to my cars with relative ease a
couple of decades ago... ;-(

Jeff: Hope you don't mind my chipping in to your thread.

Terry, no disrespect just a fun comment.
I think you are from the old Lucas school where you could put one fuse
between the 2 positions and everything would work.
I once rescued a lady way west of Mount Isa (Australia) by jumping the
starter relay of her Austin 1800 with a spanner. Told her to not stop
the engine till she was at a garage which was propably 200 miles away at
the time.
 
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Terry Pinnell

Jan 1, 1970
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Terry, no disrespect just a fun comment.
I think you are from the old Lucas school where you could put one fuse
between the 2 positions and everything would work.
I once rescued a lady way west of Mount Isa (Australia) by jumping the
starter relay of her Austin 1800 with a spanner. Told her to not stop
the engine till she was at a garage which was propably 200 miles away at
the time.

You're probably not far wide of the mark <g>.

BTW, Joseph Lucas (where my aunt worked for about 30 years) was a few
miles away from my childhood home in Erdington, Birmingham.
 
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JeffM

Jan 1, 1970
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...what exactly does Ford's ignition module do
You might want to look for a Chiltons or Haynes repair manual at the
local library that covers your vehicle.
John Popelish

I got the best wiring diagrams for my old American cars (mostly Fords)
from National Service Data (now Mitchell).

A good library will have all 3.
A great library (L.A. County) will have multiple copies of all 3.
 
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J Jensen

Jan 1, 1970
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John Popelish said:
Almost every year, make and model has a different schematic.

Here is a primitive schematic or two (hit the next button:
http://www.tpub.com/content/neets/14176/css/14176_105.htm
It shows a DC generator instead of an alternator.

thanks again, John. Yes, I think this is the best picture I've
seen so far ( I clicked "next" 2 times)


Here is a GM training schematic collection:
http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/gmprac.pdf
from the Practice section of:
http://www.autoshop101.com/autoshop31.html

You might want to look for a Chiltons or Haynes repair manual at the
local library that covers your vehicle.

Yes, I have one of these (Haynes, I think). It is pretty good for actually
trying to replace something, but the circut diagrams are way too detailed
for the kind of overview that I wanted.

--Jeff
 
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