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Martin Brown

Jan 1, 1970
Which reminds me of an incredible story about a Dutch man called Jan
van der Sloot who claimed to have devised a super video compression

What is far more amazing to me is that Roel Pieper fell for it.

Newly invented infinite capacity write only memory is regularly offered
for sale on April 1st too. I wonder if anyone ever tries to buy it?

Don Lancaster

Jan 1, 1970
You know, math.


Having been involved in thoroughly disproving similar happy horseshit in
the past, the only question in my mind is if their e-cat fuckup is
really worth researching to find out how bad it really is.

IF such a thing were to occur, worldwide replication would be instant.
And it would merit a new centerfold in Science or Nature, rather than
disparagingly mentioned in passing on the Keelynet < >.

Not to mention a free bus ticket to Stockholm.

Such a discovery would only be likely after the Ayatolla's Bar Mitzvah.

The probability of bogosity is inversely proportional to the seventh
power of how long the fiasco seems to continue without major, multiple,
and independent replication.

Typically, ego in refusing to accept that something is flat out wrong
gets overrun by unstoppable momentum. And the absurdity achieves a life
of its own.

The usual problems can often be found in < > and >

While recognizing such "looks like a duck, quacks like a duck" utter
garbage can be found at < >

Many thanks,

Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
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Jan 1, 1970
The display on the right is the programming of our VME thermocouple
simulator. On the left is what the Omega sees.

To get this sort of accuracy, the reference junction is a good
platinum RTD with a 24-bit d-s ADC, ratiometric against a very good
resistor. The board has to correctly convert the RTD ohms to
temperature, then run that through an inverse thermocouple potential
table to calculate the equivalent cold-junction compensation voltage.
Simple linear cold-junction correction, like most people use, isn't
really accurate.

You know, math.


Our Platinum probes came in 15 inch long wooden boxes and were $800.00
each back in 1985 dollars and had full NIST lab certs and cal sheets.

We were able to use those to 'calibrate' our own gear, both IR
instruments and IR calibration sources ('black body ovens', as they are

Are you compensating for the ambient temperature changes, if any, of
the probe locations themselves? Not the sensor point, the whole probe?
(if yours has a body). You probably (may) just have the leads and the
actual transducer(thermocouple tip), like the style we see most"probes".

You can get those certified and develop offset sheets?

I'll bet you plug the same probes into the same jacks every time,
right? So each channel is programmed with that particular probe's shift

That math isn't that tough, John.

Likely do it all with LabView, no problem.