Education & Jobs in Electronics

[davenn]

Electronics is a pure science, not a profit making scheme.

That's the blissful/ unknowing view
The reality is, we do electronics manufacturing or service repairs for profit.
The only ones who dont do that are the hobbyists, who, for them, it's just a fun learning thing

 

[davenn]

I have had 45+ years of electronics work for various companies.
The ONLY thing they are interested in, is, does my work bring in money for them ?
I have been doing electronics, as a hobby, for some 50 years - audio, RF and other variations.
I love it, it's in the blood
I have got no Bachelors or Masters degrees in electronics, yet I have always been able to
get reasonable paying jobs in the electronics industry.
For the last 12 years, I have been servicing high precision GPS and surveying equipment.
An interesting field

cheers
Dave

 

[Delta Prime]

Or my favorite.Cannot tell the difference between a metric or standard adjustable crescent wrench.

 

[HAROLDYOUNG]

I got news for you buddy technically Electronics is not a science. Wrap your head around that one.

I jumped the gun.

The study of "electricity" is a science.

No such thing as a Metric or Standard crescent wrench
but I do have a metric and a standard magnifying glass.

 

[HAROLDYOUNG]

That's the blissful/ unknowing view
The reality is, we do electronics manufacturing or service repairs for profit.
The only ones who dont do that are the hobbyists, who, for them, it's just a fun learning thing

I can see "electronics repair" of an already manufactured device as a profit activity.
That is the same as "mechanical repair" of an automoble.

Manufacturing electronics for profit should be done by robots, except for some assembly using
cables. In that case you would need humans to assemble the cables and connectors, but maybe
robots could do that also.

 

[HAROLDYOUNG]

I have had 45+ years of electronics work for various companies.
The ONLY thing they are interested in, is, does my work bring in money for them ?
I have been doing electronics, as a hobby, for some 50 years - audio, RF and other variations.
I love it, it's in the blood
I have got no Bachelors or Masters degrees in electronics, yet I have always been able to
get reasonable paying jobs in the electronics industry.
For the last 12 years, I have been servicing high precision GPS and surveying equipment.
An interesting field

cheers
Dave

"I love it, it's in the blood"

That's the point I was trying to make, but I couldn't come up with the right words.
Those company owners you worked for, should have picked another field that focuses on profit.
You should "love this work" rather than it just being a means to "make a profit".
It is said that Nicholas Tesla was driven from his goal of making electricity available
through the atmosphere by those who wanted to "make a profit". Tesla was pure,
while his detractors and technological enemies were greedy about "Profit".

Might as well "invest" in some business to make money if "Profit" is the goal.
I knew a guy who sat all day at his computer watching and speculating the stock market.
Why? He was trying to "Make a Profit" because the Stock Market is all about "Making a Profit".
Is electronics "all about making a profit?" NO ! But some people make that the goal; (i.e. "Profit")

 

[Delta Prime]

I jumped the gun

I know partner. You're never going to make that mistake again.

No such thing as a Metric or Standard crescent wrench

Yes there is. You forgot adjustable crescent wrench.
You see some people can be very very picky as they should when it comes to certain things.
But I know exactly what you meant.
I'm being serious now, when I say. "For safety reasons make sure, when you're driving your vehicle, that your turn signal blinker fluid, is that the appropriate level."

 

[HAROLDYOUNG]

I know partner. You're never going to make that mistake again.

Yes there is. You forgot adjustable crescent wrench.
You see some people can be very very picky as they should when it comes to certain things.
But I know exactly what you meant.
I'm being serious now, when I say. "For safety reasons make sure, when you're driving your vehicle, that your turn signal blinker fluid, is that the appropriate level."

Those 3rd numerical values in between Metric and Standard on an "adjustable" crescent wrench are a secret that only the
initiates know about.

You should also make sure that your steering wheel is at "apogee" when you first leave your parking space.

 

[Delta Prime]

PU your jokes stink.
And then there were three!
That was an inside joke you wouldn't get that one.
Later kiddo.

 

[kellys_eye]

Is electronics "all about making a profit?" NO ! But some people make that the goal; (i.e. "Profit")

In business, profit is everything. You're asking what a prospective employer wants from an employee - it's an ability to make a profit for that employer. That's what they want.

As @davenn said, you either have theory as your input, practical experience as your input or a combination of both. If you have NONE then don't expect to get a job in that industry. It costs money to train people and that's a business expense, not a business profit. It's not even as if a business could anticipate your future worth i.e. take a chance on training you as you might end up as 'the greatest engineer they ever had'..... too risky. Another business 'calculation'.

If you have maths, physics and/or engineering qualifications it is a good place to begin getting the additional experience to get you on the ladder. Take a college course on introductory electrical/electronic engineering. Either get some form of qualification (proof) or design and build something that would impress a prospective employer - but that implies having qualifications to achieve that in the first place.

I get the impression that you currently have 'nothing' to offer a prospective employer and hope that you can find a way into what seems to be coming the 'next best thing' as far as employment is concerned by gaming the system i.e. trying to wriggle your way in on the basis that 'we' can offer you a foot in the door. It ain't gonna happen.

Either tell us, in detail, what your current level of knowledge or experience is or just re-read the whole thread and realise that you don't have the qualifications (as yet) to do anything of worth to any business in this industry. Because if you DID you wouldn't be asking the same question over and over again.