# Electronically attacking cars ? ;)

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#### Skybuck Flying

Jan 1, 1970
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Disabling cars via remote signals... is it possible ?

Interesting question.

Possible attack vectors:

Gps-signals,
Car-key signals,
Others? Maybe servicing signals ?

Would be funny and environmentally-usefull to see a whole street come to a
screetching halt

Bye,
Skybuck.

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#### [email protected]

Jan 1, 1970
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Disabling cars via remote signals... is it possible ?

Interesting question.

Possible attack vectors:

Gps-signals,
Car-key signals,
Others? Maybe servicing signals ?

Would be funny and environmentally-usefull to see a whole street come to a
screetching halt

Bye,
Skybuck.

You are a danger to society.

Cars are inherently self shielding, the amount of microwave energy
needed to knock down a moving car's computers is a hazard to the
occupants. I've seen a lot of test videos of this concept, and none
are practical. Most need to get the transmitter under the car some
how, often on a towed cart.

Spike strips work.

Steve Roberts

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#### Skybuck Flying

Jan 1, 1970
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You are a danger to society.

Philosophical question:

Aren't we all ?

Bye,
Skybuck

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#### HardySpicer

Jan 1, 1970
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With microwave radar you can stop some cars.

Hardy

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#### MooseFET

Jan 1, 1970
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Disabling cars via remote signals... is it possible ?

Yes you can do it. One cop calls another cop on the radio and the
second cop uses his car to ram you.

A radio link to an aircraft with a smart bomb can disable several.

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#### att

Jan 1, 1970
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About 15 years ago I was buying a car and the dealer was trying to interest
me in an anti-theft device called "Intercept". Once you parked and armed
the system, if your car was stolen it would report itself stolen to
Intercept HQ, they would query the onboard Loran navigation system (Later
updated to GPS) and notify the police as to it's whereabouts. When the
police had your car in sight, and it was not in a dangerous location, they
would tell Intercept it was clear. Intercept operator would then shut down
the engine, roll up the windows and lock the doors. As your car coasted to
the shoulder the police could move in and make the arrest. It was the price
that turned me off $1700 and$45 a month.

Disabling cars via remote signals... is it possible ?

Yes you can do it. One cop calls another cop on the radio and the
second cop uses his car to ram you.

A radio link to an aircraft with a smart bomb can disable several.

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#### Martin Brown

Jan 1, 1970
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You are a danger to society.

Cars are inherently self shielding, the amount of microwave energy
needed to knock down a moving car's computers is a hazard to the
occupants. I've seen a lot of test videos of this concept, and none
are practical. Most need to get the transmitter under the car some
how, often on a towed cart.

The phased array at Fylingdales BMEWS III site was notorious for taking
down an earlier generation of electronics in some marques of luxury car
passing on the A171 (ISTR most notably Jaguars). The mechanism appeared
to be that the vehicle theft immobiliser was triggered and requires the
car towed out of the dead zone or a system reset.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2003/06_june/02/inside_out_fylingdale.shtml
I don't give that much credence to his fears about phased arrays -
except possibly in the very near field where the public cannot stand.

Certain UK car parks with high levels of bluetooth peripheral signals
can prevent some radio key fobs from opening cars. The AA recommended
fix is to hold the transmitter close to the receive antenna (often in or
near the rear view mirror). One notable incident in the UK where a whole
street of parked cars with modern electronic security was paralysed is
described at:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/7073935.stm

Also discussed on one or two security blogs.
Spike strips work.

Only if you can get them in the way of the bad guy and out of the way of
the persuing vehicle(s) quickly enough.

Regards,
Martin Brown

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Jan 1, 1970
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Would be funny and environmentally-usefull to see a whole street come to a
screetching halt

How much of this terrorism are you planning on committing? Have you got a
job with the politicians yet?

Thanks,
Rich

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Jan 1, 1970
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You are a danger to society.

Cars are inherently self shielding, the amount of microwave energy
needed to knock down a moving car's computers is a hazard to the
occupants. I've seen a lot of test videos of this concept, and none
are practical. Most need to get the transmitter under the car some
how, often on a towed cart.

Spike strips work.

Two garbage cans and a length of baling wire.

If you can't figure out how this works, then you're not smart enough to
be a terrorist.

Cheers!
Rich

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Jan 1, 1970
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Philosophical question:

Aren't we all ?

Only the ones who would override Free Will.

So don't.

Thanks,
Rich

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#### tlb

Jan 1, 1970
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Disabling cars via remote signals... is it possible ?

Interesting question.

Possible attack vectors:

Gps-signals,
Car-key signals,
Others? Maybe servicing signals ?

Would be funny and environmentally-usefull to see a whole street come to a
screetching halt

Bye,
Skybuck.

That's one (small) reason why I keep my 1969 Chevy pickup truck: no
electronic ignition or computers to get disabled.

Tom.

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