# Experimenting with the PicBasic Pro Compiler

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#### Fabrizio

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi,
is there anyone who can help me?
I bought this book "Experimenting with the PicBasic Pro Compiler" of
Les Johnson but I lost the included cdrom, would be nice if someone
could help me.

The www.rosetta-technologies.co.uk isn't online anymore so I don't
know how to get the source code .BAS

Thank you

Fabrizio

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Jan 1, 1970
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Think it morphed into Proton, not sure as found Lester and Les
incrediblly unpleasant people to deal with and Crownhill a company that
I would never place any trust in again,YMMV:

http://www.picbasic.org

May I suggest looking around at the other compilers availble, sure
there is better value available wth undoubtedly better support:

Oshonsoft in particular looks very promising:
http://www.oshonsoft.com/

HTH

J

#### john jardine

Jan 1, 1970
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Think it morphed into Proton, not sure as found Lester and Les
incrediblly unpleasant people to deal with and Crownhill a company that
I would never place any trust in again,YMMV:

http://www.picbasic.org

May I suggest looking around at the other compilers availble, sure
there is better value available wth undoubtedly better support:

Oshonsoft in particular looks very promising:
http://www.oshonsoft.com/

HTH
I am (was?) buying the Crownhill Proton next week. Having looked at a few
Basics for the PIC and for £150 it seemed the best of the bunch. Other than
the CH FlashBasic most of the PIC basics seem Basics in name only and are
really 'C's.
There seems also talk of a sodding USB dongle needed but I can't get any
sense out of the website.
Am I going to have trouble with Crownhill?.
Regards
john.

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#### Richard

Jan 1, 1970
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I own PBP, however I've been out of touch with the pic crowd for sometime.
What is going on with CrownHill, PBP, and Proton (whatever that is)?

Why such a I'll feeling?

Richard

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#### Richard

Jan 1, 1970
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Oops, I have MELabs PicBasic Pro, not the one from Crownhill.
Never had problems from Jeff over at www.melabs.com

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Jan 1, 1970
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The compilers use(d) a complex locking system, which generated a code
which you emailed to Crownhil, which they emailed you back an unlocking
code.

I was an early adopter of the compiler, purchased firts commercial
version they had, on CDR with inkjet label stuff, which was development
of the free LET Basic compiler.

Few months later the plus version was launched, the early adopters were
given a free upgrade, fair enough as we did in part finace its
development.

Few months on, had a hard drive crash, plus compiler wiped, politely
email Crownhill for an another unlocking code, by this time have a fair
invetment of code inthis compiler, few days go by, no code , give them
a phone,

oh you were a free upgrade, you only get that once, youll have to pay
the upgrade fee of £70 a female voice tells me.

Not best pleased tried to explain that first time in 8 months asked for
a code, so unlikely to installing it on multiple machines, and was an
early adopter felt some closeness to the project and some good will
would be nice.

Asked to be put through to Lester, he put the phone down on me.

Re dialled immediately explained to the female that a happy customer
might tell a few people , an unhappy one many, it is customer service
101.

Lester decides to take the call at this point and accuses me of
threatening him and his company!

He tells me that no early adopters financed any part of the
development, few weeks later in defending the unLockit scandal on his
development.....

Eventually Lester tells me that if I write him an email , withdrawing
my threat and detailing my reasons for needing the code, he will
consider it. How big of him.

He did eventually provide an unlocking code several days later, I
printed out all the code and started using another compiler.

When it was still run as a mailing list there was few similar stories
from people virtually having to beg to get a replacement unLockit code,
Les Johnson on at least one occasion came very close to calling his
cutomers liars and cheats on the mailing list for seeking to use the

Perhaps things are better now, all I can relate is my experience.

Would say that there are many other compilers around and that the
Crownhill version appears to have one of the smallest user bases of all
of them, perhaps there are good reasons for it.

J

#### john jardine

Jan 1, 1970
0
The compilers use(d) a complex locking system, which generated a code
which you emailed to Crownhil, which they emailed you back an unlocking
code.

I was an early adopter of the compiler, purchased firts commercial
version they had, on CDR with inkjet label stuff, which was development
of the free LET Basic compiler.

Few months later the plus version was launched, the early adopters were
given a free upgrade, fair enough as we did in part finace its
development.

Few months on, had a hard drive crash, plus compiler wiped, politely
email Crownhill for an another unlocking code, by this time have a fair
invetment of code inthis compiler, few days go by, no code , give them
a phone,

oh you were a free upgrade, you only get that once, youll have to pay
the upgrade fee of £70 a female voice tells me.

Not best pleased tried to explain that first time in 8 months asked for
a code, so unlikely to installing it on multiple machines, and was an
early adopter felt some closeness to the project and some good will
would be nice.

Asked to be put through to Lester, he put the phone down on me.

Re dialled immediately explained to the female that a happy customer
might tell a few people , an unhappy one many, it is customer service
101.

Lester decides to take the call at this point and accuses me of
threatening him and his company!

He tells me that no early adopters financed any part of the
development, few weeks later in defending the unLockit scandal on his
development.....

Eventually Lester tells me that if I write him an email , withdrawing
my threat and detailing my reasons for needing the code, he will
consider it. How big of him.

He did eventually provide an unlocking code several days later, I
printed out all the code and started using another compiler.

When it was still run as a mailing list there was few similar stories
from people virtually having to beg to get a replacement unLockit code,
Les Johnson on at least one occasion came very close to calling his
cutomers liars and cheats on the mailing list for seeking to use the

Perhaps things are better now, all I can relate is my experience.

Would say that there are many other compilers around and that the
Crownhill version appears to have one of the smallest user bases of all
of them, perhaps there are good reasons for it.

Thanks.
I do remember the Let-Basic.
I had a hard disc screw up a few months ago and know the extreme time waste
and buggering about it takes to get new access codes from suppliers.
Maybe I'll do a little more searching.
regards
john

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