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CoreyWhite

Jan 1, 1970
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Al Gore came on Opera yesterday and said we could save 20% of the
energy our light bulbs use if we switched to more expensive florescent
bulbs. These bulbs last longer you know. But are you aware that the
light bulb companies are conspiring to keep florescent bulbs off the
market? They charge you more for them already, but Tesla invented a
florescent bulb that is still burning in the Tesla Museum 50 years
later. If we all used his bulbs we would never have to worry about
screwing in light bulbs. So the answer to the most important question
of the day: How many scientists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Really should be none. Because we don't have to ever change our light
bulbs in an ideal world.

But can anyone tell me how I can get a hold of one of these Tesla bulbs?
 
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Sue...

Jan 1, 1970
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CoreyWhite said:
Al Gore came on Opera yesterday and said we could save 20% of the
energy our light bulbs use if we switched to more expensive florescent
bulbs. These bulbs last longer you know. But are you aware that the
light bulb companies are conspiring to keep florescent bulbs off the
market? They charge you more for them already, but Tesla invented a
florescent bulb that is still burning in the Tesla Museum 50 years
later. If we all used his bulbs we would never have to worry about
screwing in light bulbs. So the answer to the most important question
of the day: How many scientists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Really should be none. Because we don't have to ever change our light
bulbs in an ideal world.

But can anyone tell me how I can get a hold of one of these Tesla bulbs?

We save only 20 percent compared to incandescents ?

There must be something about Tesla stories that
magnetically attracts funny maths.

Sue...
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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Al Gore came on Opera yesterday and said we could save 20% of the
energy our light bulbs use if we switched to more expensive florescent
bulbs. These bulbs last longer you know. But are you aware that the
light bulb companies are conspiring to keep florescent bulbs off the
market? They charge you more for them already, but Tesla invented a
florescent bulb that is still burning in the Tesla Museum 50 years
later. If we all used his bulbs we would never have to worry about
screwing in light bulbs. So the answer to the most important question
of the day: How many scientists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Really should be none. Because we don't have to ever change our light
bulbs in an ideal world.

But can anyone tell me how I can get a hold of one of these Tesla bulbs?

From the green fairy ?:)

...Jim Thompson
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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We save only 20 percent compared to incandescents ?

There must be something about Tesla stories that
magnetically attracts funny maths.

Sue...

Sno-o-o-ort ;-)

...Jim Thompson
 
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CoreyWhite

Jan 1, 1970
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Sue... said:
We save only 20 percent compared to incandescents ?

There must be something about Tesla stories that
magnetically attracts funny maths.

Sue...

20%, is what Al Gore said. He would know better than me. What do you
think the electric power needs of the florescents would be? And where
can I buy a Tesla Bulb?
 
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Tim Wescott

Jan 1, 1970
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CoreyWhite said:
Al Gore came on Opera yesterday and said we could save 20% of the
energy our light bulbs use if we switched to more expensive florescent
bulbs. These bulbs last longer you know. But are you aware that the
light bulb companies are conspiring to keep florescent bulbs off the
market? They charge you more for them already, but Tesla invented a
florescent bulb that is still burning in the Tesla Museum 50 years
later. If we all used his bulbs we would never have to worry about
screwing in light bulbs. So the answer to the most important question
of the day: How many scientists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Really should be none. Because we don't have to ever change our light
bulbs in an ideal world.

But can anyone tell me how I can get a hold of one of these Tesla bulbs?
If you live out in the boonies where the power fluctuates the florescent
bulbs only last twice as long as 'regulars'. Given how much extra they
cost that's not too good of a deal. Given that they seem to embody more
energy used to produce I suspect that it's not a good deal in terms of
total energy used, either.

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CoreyWhite said:
Al Gore came on Opera yesterday and said we could save 20% of the
energy our light bulbs use if we switched to more expensive florescent
bulbs. These bulbs last longer you know. But are you aware that the
light bulb companies are conspiring to keep florescent bulbs off the
market? They charge you more for them already, but Tesla invented a
florescent bulb that is still burning in the Tesla Museum 50 years
later. If we all used his bulbs we would never have to worry about
screwing in light bulbs. So the answer to the most important question
of the day: How many scientists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Really should be none. Because we don't have to ever change our light
bulbs in an ideal world.

But can anyone tell me how I can get a hold of one of these Tesla bulbs?

I like Al Gore's scifi movie, "An Inconvenient Truth" where he preaches
about the myth of global warming from the backseat of his armoured,
7mpg limousine.
 
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OG

Jan 1, 1970
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CoreyWhite said:
20%, is what Al Gore said.

I think you need to listen again. Fluorescent bulbs save 80% compared to
incandescent bulbs.

For the cheap flurescent bulbs there is a possible problem because they take
a few minutes to achieve full brighness, so they are not so good for a
basement / loft area where you usually want 100% brightness from the first
moment, but in areas where the light is generally 'on', you'll make big
savings.

I have a rule of thumb that each bulb saves about £10 / $20 each year if
they are 'main' lights for an area.
 
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CoreyWhite

Jan 1, 1970
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I like Al Gore's scifi movie, "An Inconvenient Truth" where he preaches
about the myth of global warming from the backseat of his armoured,
7mpg limousine.

He is wrong about a lot of his theories. He claims that global warming
is caused only by C02 gasses, when in fact all greenhouse gasses are a
problem, and ozone depleting gasses as well. Hydrogen eats away at the
ozone and the pure H20 steam from nuclear power plants is a greeen
house gas. Even the electric vehicle would just drain the power grid
and cause problems if we were all using them. The only real solution
is to curb population, because even if we all switch to florescent
light bulbs there will be 10 million more americans than there are
today in just a few years. But you don't here al gore talking about
celibacy do you?
 
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OG

Jan 1, 1970
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I like Al Gore's scifi movie, "An Inconvenient Truth" where he preaches
about the myth of global warming from the backseat of his armoured,
7mpg limousine.

Wrong about the myth. GW is most probably real - if it wasn't the Petro
companies wouldn't be channeling millions into 'independent organisations'
to attempt to rubbish it.
 
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CoreyWhite

Jan 1, 1970
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OG said:
I think you need to listen again. Fluorescent bulbs save 80% compared to
incandescent bulbs.

For the cheap flurescent bulbs there is a possible problem because they take
a few minutes to achieve full brighness, so they are not so good for a
basement / loft area where you usually want 100% brightness from the first
moment, but in areas where the light is generally 'on', you'll make big
savings.

I have a rule of thumb that each bulb saves about £10 / $20 each year if
they are 'main' lights for an area.

80%?? No way!! That is like a FREE ENERGY MACHINE!!! Are you telling
me that we can take what's left over from the 20% of the energy it
uses, and use it to power the rest of the appliances in our house?? WHO
NEEDS SOLAR POWER!!!
 
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OG

Jan 1, 1970
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CoreyWhite said:
He is wrong about a lot of his theories. He claims that global warming
is caused only by C02 gasses, when in fact all greenhouse gasses are a
problem, and ozone depleting gasses as well.

Are you able to produce a direct quote where Al Gore says that GW is caused
ONLY by CO2 ?
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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CoreyWhite said:
But are you aware that the
light bulb companies are conspiring to keep florescent bulbs off the
market? They charge you more for them already

Rubbish, I can buy an 11W or 18W CFL at Morrisons for 49p ea !

, but Tesla invented a
florescent bulb that is still burning in the Tesla Museum 50 years
later.

Is it ?

Graham
 
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Sue...

Jan 1, 1970
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That is like a FREE ENERGY MACHINE!!! Are you telling
me that we can take what's left over from the 20% of the energy it
uses, and use it to power the rest of the appliances in our house?? WHO
NEEDS SOLAR POWER!!!

<< Compact fluorescent (CF) lamps are lamps of choice
for those looking for an energy-efficient alternative to
incandescent lamps: they are praised for consuming
as little as one-fifth of the power and lasting up to 13
times longer than incandescent lamps. From a designer's
viewpoint, the increasing variety in shape and colour and
the small size of CF lamps have made them more
versatile and acceptable than traditional long-tube
fluorescent lamps. >>
http://irc.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/pubs/cp/lig3_e.html

Sue...
 
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OG

Jan 1, 1970
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Tim Wescott said:
If you live out in the boonies where the power fluctuates the florescent
bulbs only last twice as long as 'regulars'. Given how much extra they
cost that's not too good of a deal. Given that they seem to embody more
energy used to produce I suspect that it's not a good deal in terms of
total energy used, either.

If a standard 100W incandescent bulb has a rated lifetime of 1000 hours
it'll use 100Kwh over its life,
The fluorescent equivalent uses 20W and (according to your claim) lasts just
2000 hours, so it uses 40Kwh over its life, which represents at least a 60%
saving.

However, one of the features of the boondocks is that NOT MANY PEOPLE LIVE
THERE, so since most people can expect 5-8,000 hours from the same bulb,
they'll get 60 - 80% saving per year per bulb.
 
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Don Lancaster

Jan 1, 1970
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CoreyWhite said:
Al Gore came on Opera yesterday and said we could save 20% of the
energy our light bulbs use if we switched to more expensive florescent
bulbs. These bulbs last longer you know. But are you aware that the
light bulb companies are conspiring to keep florescent bulbs off the
market? They charge you more for them already, but Tesla invented a
florescent bulb that is still burning in the Tesla Museum 50 years
later. If we all used his bulbs we would never have to worry about
screwing in light bulbs. So the answer to the most important question
of the day: How many scientists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Really should be none. Because we don't have to ever change our light
bulbs in an ideal world.

But can anyone tell me how I can get a hold of one of these Tesla bulbs?

The bulbs are offered exclusively to members of the Tesla Church of the
Latter Day Crackpots.



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Many thanks,

Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
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Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
 
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Don Lancaster

Jan 1, 1970
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Sue... said:
We save only 20 percent compared to incandescents ?

There must be something about Tesla stories that
magnetically attracts funny maths.

Sue...
Actually, the savings may be negative.

A fluorescent closet light is LESS efficient than an incadescent when
total lifteime costs are considered.

In general, fluorescents make sense if the lamp is continuously run more
than four hours a day.

A reasonable guess is that fluorescents are only cost effective in ONE
HALF of most home light sockets.



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Many thanks,

Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: [email protected]

Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
 
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Joel Kolstad

Jan 1, 1970
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CoreyWhite said:
Tesla invented a
florescent bulb that is still burning in the Tesla Museum 50 years
later.

Yeah, and Edison's light bulb has been burning at his lab for 50+ years too.

You might want to read up on the relationships between bulb efficiencies and
lifetimes; it's generally an inverse relationship (both for incandescents and
flurorescents, it's just that fluorescents start off much better).
 
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