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Yzordderex

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm looking for a student or demo version of spice that I can get for
free or under $100.

I run Intusoft at work that my boss paid good money for. I just can't
afford to outlay a big bunch of cash right now, and only want to use
at home for my own projects.

I will go search the web now, but thought someone might know already.

regards,
Bob
 
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Boris Mohar

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm looking for a student or demo version of spice that I can get for
free or under $100.

I run Intusoft at work that my boss paid good money for. I just can't
afford to outlay a big bunch of cash right now, and only want to use
at home for my own projects.

I will go search the web now, but thought someone might know already.

regards,
Bob

http://www.linear.com/software/



Regards,

Boris Mohar

Got Knock? - see:
Viatrack Printed Circuit Designs http://www3.sympatico.ca/borism/
Aurora, Ontario
 
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Bill Sloman

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm looking for a student or demo version of spice that I can get for
free or under $100.

I run Intusoft at work that my boss paid good money for. I just can't
afford to outlay a big bunch of cash right now, and only want to use
at home for my own projects.

I will go search the web now, but thought someone might know already.

If you are a Linux freak, see

http://www.geda.seul.org/

where there seem to be couple of free Spice packages.

I actually use Kevin Aylwards's SuperSpice, which has a $60 student
price.

http://www.anasoft.co.uk/

I've also got a copy of Linear Technology's LTSpice, which is free and
pretty good

http://www.linear.com/software/

Search here and on sci.electronics.cad for discussion about LTSpice -
there is lots of it, mostly favourable.

For a more comprehensive list, go to Terry Pinnell's web site, where
he lists some sixty programs.

http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/ECADList.html

Hope this helps.
 
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Dan Mills

Jan 1, 1970
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Yzordderex said:
I'm looking for a student or demo version of spice that I can get for
free or under $100.

I run Intusoft at work that my boss paid good money for. I just can't
afford to outlay a big bunch of cash right now, and only want to use
at home for my own projects.

I will go search the web now, but thought someone might know already.

regards,
Bob

I am fairly sure that UCB will still have spice V 3F5 up somewhere, or
failing that the usaual mirror sites will have it.


Regards, Dan.
 
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Baphomet

Jan 1, 1970
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Yzordderex said:
I'm looking for a student or demo version of spice that I can get for
free or under $100.

I run Intusoft at work that my boss paid good money for. I just can't
afford to outlay a big bunch of cash right now, and only want to use
at home for my own projects.

I will go search the web now, but thought someone might know already.

regards,
Bob

http://www.repairfaq.org/ELE/F_Free_Spice.html
 
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Fred Abse

Jan 1, 1970
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I am fairly sure that UCB will still have spice V 3F5 up somewhere, or
failing that the usaual mirror sites will have it.

It's still around. Running it here, under Linux.
 
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James Meyer

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm looking for a student or demo version of spice that I can get for
free or under $100.

I run Intusoft at work that my boss paid good money for. I just can't
afford to outlay a big bunch of cash right now, and only want to use
at home for my own projects.

I will go search the web now, but thought someone might know already.

regards,
Bob

Motorola, www.onsemi.com, will send you a cute little CD with a demo
version of Intusoft's SPICE on it. All you have to do is give them enough info
so they can send you advertising.

The demo is a little limited, but still very useful. Plus you get lots
of Motorola's models on the disk.

Jim
 
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Chaos Master

Jan 1, 1970
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I found ancient runes from Yzordderex[[email protected]] in the floor of
sci.electronics.design:
I'm looking for a student or demo version of spice that I can get for
free or under $100.

I run Intusoft at work that my boss paid good money for. I just can't
afford to outlay a big bunch of cash right now, and only want to use
at home for my own projects.

LTSpice - the best simulator IMHO. www.linear.com/software
 
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Rich Webb

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm looking for a student or demo version of spice that I can get for
free or under $100.

I run Intusoft at work that my boss paid good money for. I just can't
afford to outlay a big bunch of cash right now, and only want to use
at home for my own projects.

In addition to those mentioned, the "Lite" version of Beige Bag spice is
freeware. Limited in the number of parts and nodes supported but
otherwise functional. http://www.beigebag.com/adv4_lite.htm
 
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Winfield Hill

Jan 1, 1970
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Bill Sloman wrote...
Yzordderex wrote ...

If you are a Linux freak, see http://www.geda.seul.org/
I actually use Kevin Aylwards's SuperSpice, which has a $60 student
price. http://www.anasoft.co.uk/
I've also got a copy of Linear Technology's LTSpice, which is free and
pretty good http://www.linear.com/software/

Or Yzordderex can continue using Intusoft's spice, either their free
demo download, or better, the CD version from ON Semi, including lots
of power models, http://www.onsemi.com/site/content/0,4367,1020,00.html

Thanks,
- Win

whill_at_picovolt-dot-com
 
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Guy Parent

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm looking for a student or demo version of spice that I can get for
free or under $100.

I run Intusoft at work that my boss paid good money for. I just can't
afford to outlay a big bunch of cash right now, and only want to use
at home for my own projects.

I will go search the web now, but thought someone might know already.

regards,
Bob

Here's another one that goes under DesignLab Eval 8 or MSimEv_8.
Orginally from Microsim but still available on college sites for
example:
http://www.engr.pitt.edu/coe-courses/Labs/Software/Pspice/

There are later evaluation versions available but if I recall Orcad
and Cadence put some limitations on that the Microsim versions didn't
have, possibly PC board layout.
The installed program takes up 37.9MB and the documentation 24.5MB
There is the usual limitations of numbers of components, nets etc.
I have added several models from National and others over the years.
It also has an autorouter that I haven't used much.
Good luck,
Guy
 
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Frank Wagner

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm looking for a student or demo version of spice that I can get for
free or under $100.

I run Intusoft at work that my boss paid good money for. I just can't
afford to outlay a big bunch of cash right now, and only want to use
at home for my own projects.

I will go search the web now, but thought someone might know already.

regards,
Bob

Hello Bob,

sometimes I use WinSpice its free and it worked fairly good for me.
Look at:
http://www.ousetech.co.uk/winspice2/

Greetings

Frank
 
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Ken Smith

Jan 1, 1970
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Bill Sloman said:
If you are a Linux freak, see

http://www.geda.seul.org/

where there seem to be couple of free Spice packages.

Beware, the underlying Berkely spice engine used in many older spice
programs did not check pointers before using them, resulting in access
violations instead of nice error messages. This would only happen on
running out of memeory or some strange syntax errors in the input deck. A
couple of years ago I found the keeper of the source and sent him the
needed changes.

Also for Linux, you can use the free Linear spice under Wine. It works
well under Linux. The auto-updater doesn't seem to be able to find the
network under wine, but you can just manually download the newer versions
as needed.
 
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Yzordderex

Jan 1, 1970
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Thanks everybody. I will run a bunch, maybe all of em. I'm trying
out the LT version right now.

best regards,
Bob
 
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Winfield Hill

Jan 1, 1970
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Eric Y. Chang wrote...
Winfield Hill ([email protected]) wrote:
...
: demo download, or better, the CD version from ON Semi, including lots
: of power models, http://www.onsemi.com/site/content/0,4367,1020,00.html

Do they offer a Linux version? It is hard to tell without registering.

I think the answer is no, althought they've been thinking about it (see
the quotes below from a 2002 newsletter). No doubt they as others will
come around once Linux is more readily-available on the desktop.

I often ask at CompUsa, Staples, OfficeMax, BestBuy, Circuit City, etc.,
if they offer any Linux computers for sale. These days they always say,
"no." But someday the $75 cheaper sales price for saying yes will make
its impact, and I'm sure they'll eventually be saying, "yes." But in
the meantime there's always Wine, etc., right?

Inutsoft quote: "SPICE For Linux"

"In the last few years Linux has become a viable platform for both client
and server based computing. IsSpice4 is available on Unix under Solaris
as the ViewAnalog package from Viewlogic. Intusoft would like to know
your opinion on Linux. Please write or email Intusoft if you would like
to see IsSpice4 and possibly ICAP/4Windows ported to Linux."

I wrote and said yes, but I suspect not many other folks wrote...

Thanks,
- Win

whill_at_picovolt-dot-com
 
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Winfield Hill

Jan 1, 1970
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Winfield Hill wrote...
I think the answer is no, althought they've been thinking about it
(see the quotes below from a 2002 newsletter). ...

Correction, that was from a 1998 newsletter, so it's been five years,
and clearly it's time to make the point again, but more strongly!

Thanks,
- Win

whill_at_picovolt-dot-com
 
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Mike Engelhardt

Jan 1, 1970
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Win,
Inutsoft quote: "SPICE For Linux"

"In the last few years Linux has become a viable platform for both client
and server based computing. IsSpice4 is available on Unix under Solaris
as the ViewAnalog package from Viewlogic. Intusoft would like to know
your opinion on Linux. Please write or email Intusoft if you would like
to see IsSpice4 and possibly ICAP/4Windows ported to Linux."

I wrote and said yes, but I suspect not many other folks wrote...

Why mess with Intusoft when you can get a real
tool, LTspice, free and it runs on Linux?

This is the relevant part of the FAQ from the
help system regarding Linux/WINE:

Q. Do you have a version of LTspice for Linux?
A. Not a separate edition, but it does run under
WINE. The program has been tested on Linux
RedHat 8.0 with WINE version 20030219.

Q. OK, I've never used WINE, how do I install that
on my Linux box?
A. 1. Check with www.winehq.com to find the current
version of WINE for your system. At the time
of this writing, for RedHat 8.0, this points
to http://mecano.gme.usherb.ca/~vberon/wine
2. Copy the appropriate .rpm file to your machine
and open it from nautilus.
3. Get the file swcadiii.exe from www.linear.com.
In an xterm, execute "wine swcadiii.exe" to
install LTspice.
4. There will now be a Linear Technology Logo on
your gnome desktop. Double click it to start
or type "wine scad3.exe" from an xterm to
start the program. That's it!

Q. The schematic fonts don't scale as smoothly under
WINE as Windows. Why is that?
A. WINE is doing the best best it can with the fonts
it finds. It will do better if you tell it how
to find the files arial.ttf and cour.ttf from
your Windows system.

Q. The PWL additional point editor doesn't look
right under WINE?
A. Try using the native Windows .dll from your
Windows system. The command line to then invoke
LTspice from WINE is:
wine -dll commctrl,comctl32=n scad3.exe.

Q. It seems LTspice is running slightly differently
under WINE/Linux than windows. Why is that?
A. LTspice detects whether or not it's running under
WINE. If so, it works around a few WINE issues.
You can force LTspice to think it's running under
WINE with the command line switch -wine. You can
force it to think it's not with the command line
switch -nowine in case you're interesting in
debugging WINE.

Q. Under Windows, LTspice extends the virtual
address space for waveform viewing to 64 bits.
Does that work under WINE?
A. Yes. It has been tested on waveform files over
5 Gigabytes in size.

Q. Under Linux, does it support unlimited component
count and depth of schematic hierarchy?
A. Yes. Opps, no. The maximum depth of hierarchy
is 64 levels but that limit is just there to
allow detection of infinite subcircuit recursion.
(Most "unlimited" SPICE's "limit" you to about 21
levels.) LTspice has no limit on node or
component count either per page or for the
entire circuit.

Q. Does cross-probing while simulation work with
those slick marching waveforms while running
under Linux?
A. Yes.

Q. So from what version on is LTspice supported
under WINE?
A. 2.01g.

--Mike
 

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