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#### Spehro Pefhany

Jan 1, 1970
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The instructions on an inexpensive Dremel-type rotary tool set (tool,
case etc.- 229 pieces for C$49) say "Handling the power cord on this product may expose you to lead, a chemical known to (sic) the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. _Wash hands after handling_. Now, the prongs look to be nickel plated, and the rest of the power cord is covered by PVC (and, incidentally, the web site of the manufacturer says their stuff is RoHS compliant). Amusingly, the power cord manufacturer also makes passive 'scope probes. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany J #### Jim Thompson Jan 1, 1970 0 The instructions on an inexpensive Dremel-type rotary tool set (tool, case etc.- 229 pieces for C$49) say "Handling the power cord on this
product may expose you to lead, a chemical known to (sic) the State of
California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive
harm. _Wash hands after handling_.

Now, the prongs look to be nickel plated, and the rest of the power
cord is covered by PVC (and, incidentally, the web site of the
manufacturer says their stuff is RoHS compliant).

Amusingly, the power cord manufacturer also makes passive 'scope
probes.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Must be a new required legalese... it's also on a lighted garland I
just bought.

...Jim Thompson

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#### Richard Henry

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim Thompson said:
Must be a new required legalese... it's also on a lighted garland I
just bought.

My guess is that they are produced in a factory where lead-based solder is
still being used.

The warning is there in case any gets splashed or dusted where it shouldn't.

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#### ehsjr

Jan 1, 1970
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Spehro said:
The instructions on an inexpensive Dremel-type rotary tool set (tool,
case etc.- 229 pieces for C$49) say "Handling the power cord on this product may expose you to lead, a chemical known to (sic) the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. _Wash hands after handling_. Now, the prongs look to be nickel plated, and the rest of the power cord is covered by PVC (and, incidentally, the web site of the manufacturer says their stuff is RoHS compliant). Amusingly, the power cord manufacturer also makes passive 'scope probes. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany Wait! Dremels cause birth defects in California? I do NOT want to know how they do that ... Ed S #### Spehro Pefhany Jan 1, 1970 0 My guess is that they are produced in a factory where lead-based solder is still being used. The warning is there in case any gets splashed or dusted where it shouldn't. Why isn't there a similar warning printed on every sheet of bumwad? ;-) Best regards, Spehro Pefhany B #### Bob Monsen Jan 1, 1970 0 The instructions on an inexpensive Dremel-type rotary tool set (tool, case etc.- 229 pieces for C$49) say "Handling the power cord on this
product may expose you to lead, a chemical known to (sic) the State of
California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive
harm. _Wash hands after handling_.

Now, the prongs look to be nickel plated, and the rest of the power
cord is covered by PVC (and, incidentally, the web site of the
manufacturer says their stuff is RoHS compliant).

Amusingly, the power cord manufacturer also makes passive 'scope
probes.

Buildings in California have held that kind of warning for years. When I
worked in Berkeley in the late 80s, I was greeted with a warning about
the building itself causing cancer as I entered each day. Thankfully, I
was apparently immune to the effects.

The problem is that warnings like these make it hard to determine the
real problems... If everything is scary, nothing is scary, even things
that are truly dangerous.

--
Regards,
Bob Monsen

A prude is a person who thinks that his own rules of propriety are
natural laws. You are almost entirely free of this prevalent evil.

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#### Hal Murray

Jan 1, 1970
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Buildings in California have held that kind of warning for years. When I
worked in Berkeley in the late 80s, I was greeted with a warning about
the building itself causing cancer as I entered each day. Thankfully, I
was apparently immune to the effects.

The problem is that warnings like these make it hard to determine the
real problems... If everything is scary, nothing is scary, even things
that are truly dangerous.

Agreed, but if you spend any time in the building you can ask
around and find out why they put the signs up. If it's an old
building, lead paint and asbestos are likely. I don't think either
is much of a problem in normal usage but could get interesting if
you are fishing cables through an old dusty area.

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#### Mark Zenier

Jan 1, 1970
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The instructions on an inexpensive Dremel-type rotary tool set (tool,
case etc.- 229 pieces for C$49) say "Handling the power cord on this product may expose you to lead, a chemical known to (sic) the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. _Wash hands after handling_. Now, the prongs look to be nickel plated, and the rest of the power cord is covered by PVC (and, incidentally, the web site of the manufacturer says their stuff is RoHS compliant). Amusingly, the power cord manufacturer also makes passive 'scope probes. They use some lead compound as a plasticizer in vinyl. There's an ongoing media frenzy about soft plastic school lunch boxes, and there were some warnings about plastic roll up blinds that shed a lot of lead when they aged in the sun and broke down into plastic dust. Mark Zenier [email protected] Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com) S #### Spehro Pefhany Jan 1, 1970 0 Wait! Dremels cause birth defects in California? I do NOT want to know how they do that ... Ed You need to use the flex-shaft attachment and a special head. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany J #### John Larkin Jan 1, 1970 0 The instructions on an inexpensive Dremel-type rotary tool set (tool, case etc.- 229 pieces for C$49) say "Handling the power cord on this
product may expose you to lead, a chemical known to (sic) the State of
California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive
harm. _Wash hands after handling_.

Now, the prongs look to be nickel plated, and the rest of the power
cord is covered by PVC (and, incidentally, the web site of the
manufacturer says their stuff is RoHS compliant).

Amusingly, the power cord manufacturer also makes passive 'scope
probes.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

We have warnings everywhere. Bars post the "known to the State of
California to cause cancer" notices about the beer. None of the state
Legislators drink beer, of course.

John

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#### John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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My guess is that they are produced in a factory where lead-based solder is
still being used.

The warning is there in case any gets splashed or dusted where it shouldn't.

Isn't lead used as a catalyst in some plastics? Of course the Dremel
tosses all sorts of nasties into the air... just take a cutting wheel
to a piece of stainless.

John

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#### [email protected]

Jan 1, 1970
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Spehro said:
The instructions on an inexpensive Dremel-type rotary tool set (tool,
case etc.- 229 pieces for C$49) say "Handling the power cord on this product may expose you to lead, a chemical known to (sic) the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. _Wash hands after handling_. I might be missing something obvious here, but why the (sic)? Merry Christmas, Mike S #### Spehro Pefhany Jan 1, 1970 0 I might be missing something obvious here, but why the (sic)? Merry Christmas, Mike It's because I think it should be a "by" rather than "to". Sentence pattern: A is known by B to cause X and Y or Z. Do you disagree? Best regards, Spehro Pefhany J #### John Larkin Jan 1, 1970 0 J #### John Larkin Jan 1, 1970 0 I might be missing something obvious here, but why the (sic)? Merry Christmas, Mike Because, based on the stupid laws we have here, the "State of California" doesn't personally know much of anything. John J #### Joerg Jan 1, 1970 0 Hello John, We have warnings everywhere. Bars post the "known to the State of California to cause cancer" notices about the beer. None of the state Legislators drink beer, of course. No, only Chardonnay and imported Camembert cheese. Occasionally I read to my wife what's written in large capital print on the beer bottles: "Women should not drink alcoholic beverages". In California stuff like this is really getting overboard. I have seen devices that were too small to hold all those warnings so they had 2-3 tags dangling from them. Do not put into mouth while foot is in mouth and so on. One tag got caught in a gear and that almost caused a serious accident. Pathetic. We really need to lose some bureaucrats. Starve the beats, but voters here don't seem to comprehend. Pretty soon the warnings may have to be bilingual. Regards, Joerg J #### Jim Thompson Jan 1, 1970 0 Hello John, We have warnings everywhere. Bars post the "known to the State of California to cause cancer" notices about the beer. None of the state Legislators drink beer, of course. [snip] Pretty soon the warnings may have to be bilingual. Regards, Joerg Already are in Arizona... now known as North Sonora ;-) ...Jim Thompson T #### Tim Shoppa Jan 1, 1970 0 Spehro said: The instructions on an inexpensive Dremel-type rotary tool set (tool, case etc.- 229 pieces for C$49) say "Handling the power cord on this
product may expose you to lead, a chemical known to (sic) the State of
California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive
harm. _Wash hands after handling_.

Last spring I bought some really nice Goodyear-brand garden hose
sprayers. But attached to each one was a warning that you can get
electrocuted by using the device...

If you aim it at high-voltage lines while spraying water!

Tim.

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#### Tim Shoppa

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
I think the exact wording is "contains substances known...", which
must be true about beer, broccoli, air, water, and most everything
else.

Joe Jackson, circa 1982, "Everything Causes Cancer".

What's very amazing is that if, say, 1000 researchers look for power
lines
(or anything else) as a cause of cancer, and only publish if the
statistics
indicate 99% probability that it is a cause, then 10 articles get
published.

Tim.

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