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#### Bret Ludwig

Jan 1, 1970
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VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC 19C OSCILLATOR SER# 40522
Item number: 270094866875

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This item is covered up to $2,000 See eligibility Description Increase Sales by 18% and double your hits - Vendio Gallery VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC 19C OSCILLATOR SER# 40522 S #### Steven Jan 1, 1970 0 PS John F. Kennedy is still dead too, dead dead dead It doesn't matter how many shots or gunmen? PAH P #### PeterD Jan 1, 1970 0 VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC 19C OSCILLATOR SER# Ok... ZZZZ OOOO TTTTT Z O O T Z O O T Z O O T Z O O T ZZZZ OOOO T You are now damned. Just remember, you asked for it... R #### Radiola Jan 1, 1970 0 VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC 19C OSCILLATOR SER# 40522 Item number: 270094866875 Email to a friend Increase your chances of winning next time: Track your bidding, especially during the final minutes of a listing. Use My eBay, email notifications, and eBay Toolbar. Try entering your highest maximum bid. eBay will only use as much of your bid as necessary to win. Use completed item search to better estimate the final price of items you bid on. Winning bid: US$462.00

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Item location: PUTNEY VERMONT, United States
History: 11 bids
Winning bidder: wlaud73 ( private )
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Starting time: Feb-28-07 18:42:21 PST
Starting bid: US $35.00 Payment methods: PayPal, Personal check, Money order/Cashiers check See details Meet the seller Seller: oxshunnut324( 1044Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Feedback: 99.9% Positive Member: since Apr-21-99 in United States Read feedback comments Ask seller a question Add to Favorite Sellers View seller's other items Contact the seller instantly Buy safely 1. Check the seller's reputation Score: 1044 | 99.9% Positive Read feedback comments 2. Check how you're protected This item is covered up to$2,000 See eligibility

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What's amazing is the morons that respond to this, but that's YOUR
purpose in life I guess.

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#### Edward R. Morris

Jan 1, 1970
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Hey Bret,
Could you lay off the swearing? I hear enough of it during the day,
which I have no control over and I don't appreciate reading it at this tube
hobby group. It's uncalled for. If you look in your dictionary, there are
many, many other words you can use to express anger, surprise, bewilderment,
etc. Expand your vocabulary!

Edward Morris
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VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC 19C OSCILLATOR SER# 40522
Item number: 270094866875

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Winning bid: US $462.00 Make no payments for 3 months Apply Ended: Mar-05-07 18:42:21 PST Shipping costs: Check item description and payment instructions or contact seller for details Ships to: Worldwide Item location: PUTNEY VERMONT, United States History: 11 bids Winning bidder: wlaud73 ( private ) You can also: Email to a friend | Sell one like this Listing and payment details: HideShow Starting time: Feb-28-07 18:42:21 PST Starting bid: US$35.00

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This item is covered up to $2,000 See eligibility Description Increase Sales by 18% and double your hits - Vendio Gallery VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC 19C OSCILLATOR SER# 40522 R #### Radiola Jan 1, 1970 0 Hey Bret, Could you lay off the swearing? I hear enough of it during the day, which I have no control over and I don't appreciate reading it at this tube hobby group. It's uncalled for. If you look in your dictionary, there are many, many other words you can use to express anger, surprise, bewilderment, etc. Expand your vocabulary! Edward Morris VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC 19C OSCILLATOR SER# 40522 Item number: 270094866875 Email to a friend Increase your chances of winning next time: Track your bidding, especially during the final minutes of a listing. Use My eBay, email notifications, and eBay Toolbar. Try entering your highest maximum bid. eBay will only use as much of your bid as necessary to win. Use completed item search to better estimate the final price of items you bid on. Winning bid: US$462.00

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Item location: PUTNEY VERMONT, United States
History: 11 bids
Winning bidder: wlaud73 ( private )
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Listing and payment details: HideShow

Starting time: Feb-28-07 18:42:21 PST
Starting bid: US $35.00 Payment methods: PayPal, Personal check, Money order/Cashiers check See details Meet the seller Seller: oxshunnut324( 1044Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Feedback: 99.9% Positive Member: since Apr-21-99 in United States Read feedback comments Ask seller a question Add to Favorite Sellers View seller's other items Contact the seller instantly Buy safely 1. Check the seller's reputation Score: 1044 | 99.9% Positive Read feedback comments 2. Check how you're protected This item is covered up to$2,000 See eligibility

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Brilliant Edward. Encourage him how to write his Spam. Admirable.

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#### Steven

Jan 1, 1970
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What's amazing is the morons that respond to this, but that's YOUR
purpose in life I guess.

Do you count yourself as TROLLED? PWN3D?

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#### Sander deWaal

Jan 1, 1970
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PS John F. Kennedy is still dead too, dead dead dead
It doesn't matter how many shots or gunmen?

Please don't get him started.

Bratwig just loves attention, *any* attention.

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#### Bret Ludwig

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm sorry I offended anyone. My point was that this one ollie has
bought EVERY ONE of these things on eBay in over a year. He junks
them out for the transformers. I'm disappointed in my fellow Americans
at not driving the price into the stratosphere like they should
because our country is being bought out from under us.

J

#### John Goller, k9uwa

Jan 1, 1970
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somehow me thinks that you just want to buy some of them for a pricetag
thats cheaper than the going market price. Apparently your pocket
isn't deep enough to get one... therefore suggest that you consider
spending your time earning some $$Money$$ instead of whining to
the newsgroups about your lack of funds...

Or perhaps spend your time looking in places other than FleaBay
like Hamfests and such.... perhaps the price there would be a
little better?

John k9uwa /w4

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#### jim menning

Jan 1, 1970
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Bret Ludwig said:
I'm sorry I offended anyone. My point was that this one ollie has
bought EVERY ONE of these things on eBay in over a year. He junks
them out for the transformers. I'm disappointed in my fellow Americans
at not driving the price into the stratosphere like they should
because our country is being bought out from under us.

Bret, it would make much more sense for your posts to inform us what you are talking
about, rather than just posting the text from the auction.

If you want us to know that one person is buying all these for a particular reason,
then that is what you need to say. If this "ollie" is paying the top dollar for
them, and apparently he must be if he is winning them all, then he is free to do what
he wants with them. Maybe you should learn to mind your own business, and quit
trying to stir up others with matters that only seem to concern you. If you think
the American people should pay more than what these are worth just to keep them from
"ollie", go ahead and spend your own money on them. Go ahead, fill your basement
with them. But please stop cross-posting these delusional reports in such a
non-sensical way. I don't think anyone in the antique radio group cares about your
crusades. And apparently you are the only one who considers that this is a political
issue, worthy of your paranoid rantings. No need to blame all Americans for not
thinking the way you do. We have enough nuts like you around as it is.

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#### John Byrns

Jan 1, 1970
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Bret Ludwig said:
I'm sorry I offended anyone. My point was that this one ollie has
bought EVERY ONE of these things on eBay in over a year. He junks
them out for the transformers. I'm disappointed in my fellow Americans
at not driving the price into the stratosphere like they should
because our country is being bought out from under us.

So what is wrong with him buying them all and "junking them out"? They
are apparently not useful as they are and so don't command a high price.
If they are somehow such a great bargain at the current price, why don't
you buy them up and resell them to the "ollie"? Why would any right
thinking American want one of these "Woo Woos" in the first place?

Regards,

John Byrns

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#### Charles Schuler

Jan 1, 1970
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Edward R. Morris said:
Hey Bret,
Could you lay off the swearing? I hear enough of it during the day,
which I have no control over and I don't appreciate reading it at this
tube
hobby group. It's uncalled for. If you look in your dictionary, there are
many, many other words you can use to express anger, surprise,
bewilderment,
etc. Expand your vocabulary!

I'd guess that you do not care much for George Carlin?

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#### Bret Ludwig

Jan 1, 1970
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So what is wrong with him buying them all and "junking them out"? They
are apparently not useful as they are and so don't command a high price.
If they are somehow such a great bargain at the current price, why don't
you buy them up and resell them to the "ollie"? Why would any right
thinking American want one of these "Woo Woos" in the first place?

This is actually an intelligent question. In the 70s and 80s the
Japanese, primarily then, bought up ALL of the extant WE theater gear.
Usually at very low prices to the American sellers. Now there are none
of these left, but at least most are still in good condition if you
want to go to Japan to see one. Now these WE boxes are being parted
out and trashed for some transformers which are not terribly good, but
the orientals-now mostly Koreans and politically connected mainland
Chinese-fetishize them. The trend of all our old stuff going over
there for peanuts isn't good.

The WE 19C is a dedicated telco box that is useful today
for.....well, admittedly not a lot. It is a heterodyne oscillator that
has such colossal phase noise that you can hear it do weird things to
small line fluctuations right through, usually, its own caps, which
are noisy as many were made between 1946 and 1961. It's one of the
few pieces of test equipment that is built electrically with series
heater string and "hot chassis", except the chassis itself isn't. An
isolated bus bar provides rail voltages.

An interesting telco collectible because most all of them went
through rework and have many interesting variations. The same one has
either a front lid or rack ears. The power cord may be run out front
or the side, either a fixed cord or a socket, but never a socket on
the front. Most were made with the WE center swing "speedometer" meter
but some like this last one had more conventional meter movements.

The heterodyne oscillator is described in works like Williams et al
as a crude stopgap but Mr. Dick Pierce has informed us, thanks to my
ranting, the concept has a great advantage in frequency-swept work and
was made in highly stable form by Bruel and Kjaer and others.

I actually own two of these now. What's amazing is that though both
were filthy and had a lot of oxidation inside I took a chance and
plugged both straight in to the outlet. Both worked flawlessly. In
contrast I own three HP tube audio oscillators in lunchbox cases, and
while all three work I had to do a fair amount of renovation on all
three.

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#### Bret Ludwig

Jan 1, 1970
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somehow me thinks that you just want to buy some of them for a pricetag
thats cheaper than the going market price. Apparently your pocket
isn't deep enough to get one... therefore suggest that you consider
spending your time earning some $$Money$$ instead of whining to
the newsgroups about your lack of funds...

Or perhaps spend your time looking in places other than FleaBay
like Hamfests and such.... perhaps the price there would be a
little better?

You have to be joking. Around here hamfest price is usually at or
above ebay pricing.

B

#### Bret Ludwig

Jan 1, 1970
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If you want us to know that one person is buying all these for a particular reason,
then that is what you need to say. If this "ollie" is paying the top dollar for
them, and apparently he must be if he is winning them all, then he is free to do what
he wants with them. Maybe you should learn to mind your own business, and quit
trying to stir up others with matters that only seem to concern you. If you think
the American people should pay more than what these are worth just to keep them from
"ollie", go ahead and spend your own money on them.

What, are we libertarians? We are not libertarians yet, and you may
tell that to your followers.

S

#### Sander deWaal

Jan 1, 1970
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Bratwig said:
I'm sorry I offended anyone. My point was that this one ollie has
bought EVERY ONE of these things on eBay in over a year. He junks
them out for the transformers. I'm disappointed in my fellow Americans
at not driving the price into the stratosphere like they should
because our country is being bought out from under us.

While *you* junk out trannies out of perfectly good ST70s for your
silly geetah amp projects.
And bragging about it at every opportunity you get.

You may now resume your daily dumpster diving. Happy hunting!

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#### Bret Ludwig

Jan 1, 1970
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Bratwig said:

While *you* junk out trannies out of perfectly good ST70s for your
silly geetah amp projects.
And bragging about it at every opportunity you get.

You may now resume your daily dumpster diving. Happy hunting!

Except that I don't. In fact I NEVER junked out ST70s for guitar amps
because as I have repeatedly said the ST70 transformer is a poor
choice for that purpose. In fact i've put in other transformers into
Sunn amps, which used Dyna iron from the factory, specifically because
of that.

Also, old ST70s are no longer cost effective for parts use. As I have
also said.

I HAVE junked out Scotts and Fishers which were landfill bound
anyway, for guitar amp use. Again, no longer cost effective.

J

#### John Goller, k9uwa

Jan 1, 1970
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[email protected] says...
You have to be joking. Around here hamfest price is usually at or
above ebay pricing.

Then your pocket just isn't deep enough to be in there playing the
game... go elsewhere and whine!
John k9uwa