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capt ken

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On my old receiver I had a tape monitor circuit that the EQ used. My current receiver does not. Is it possible to wire the EQ into the receiver? Expert on "just answer" said it needs to be done between the pre amp and power amp. He also mention the volume circuit. This is the best schematic that I can find.

https://riverparkinc.com/wp-content/uploads/import/2014/11/strdh130-service-manual.pdf

Can anybody help? On an old tube system I could handle it, this integrated stuff is mind blowing. I can trace wires, solder etc. Thanks
 

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Why do you need EQ? Is it because you have cheap garbage speakers?
I designed and built and modified purchased speaker systems to sound good.
The only EQ I use is a bass boost circuit for my smaller speakers.
 

capt ken

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Initially it was a Pioneer receiver with Bose 301s. Couldn't get the sound I wanted so I added the EQ. Pioneer died replaced with the Sony. Moving, sold the Bose, not sure what will replace. I like good sound, speakers are not low end. The EQ works fine, but is almost 40 years old. Rather try to incorporate than trash.
 

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Hello,

Looking at the schematics IC400 is the selector and IC700 is the power amplifier.
The volume control is done inside IC400.
You could likely put the EQ in between:
sony_strdh130-EQ_insert.png

I have marked the output of the selector, the channels and the input of the power amplifier.
Put some capacitors on the outputs of the selector, go to the EQ and connect the output of the EQ to the power amplifier input.
Also connect the grounds.
I would use shielded cables to go to and from the EQ.

Bertus
 

shrtrnd

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Sheez, sounds like your equipment is/was as old as mine.
It was a mistake to trash that Pioneer instead of fixing it. The Sony stuff is made in China now, … not worth the money.
Anyway, my Pioneer has RCA jacks on the back to integrate my graphic equalizer and a reverberation amplifier I like.
Apparently, your new Sony doesn't have that capability?
If you're as old as me, and actually remember what music sounded like before the college boys digitized it for everybody
(losing all the harmonics we used to hear), good luck trying to get any new sound system to recreate what we used to hear.
Play with what you've got to get something going. But if you've got the money check into MacIntosh Labs, they're
the closest to getting the sound you want in today's market.
I'll keep my Pioneer going until I die, and won't regret it.
 

capt ken

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Thank you Bertus. Just to be sure I understand. I cut the JW492 & 3 bridges. Add a capacitor to each selector output which is then connected to the EQ input. How big a capacitor? Wire output of EQ to Power amp input. Does it matter where I connect the grounds. I was planning on adding 4 RCA jacks to the back panel for EQ in and out. Is that a good idea or just wire directly to the EQ.
 

bertus

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Hello,

I would take the same values as C701 and C751, wich are 10 μF / 50 Volts.

Bertus
 

capt ken

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Thank you. Still unsure about where to run the ground wires. I don't see anything on the board that indicates ground.
 

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Hello,

In the PCB drawing JW494 is ground.
It is also connected to pin7 of IC700.

Bertus
 

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Don't forget to use shielded cabling to minimize the risk of introducing additional noise to the audio path.
 

Martaine2005

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I don’t see any reason why you can’t install 4 RCAs on the back panel. But also make two Short RCA/phono leads for bridging in case the EQ should fail in the future.

Martin
 

Ken J

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Reviving an old thread. Moved, new email address. I used to be Capt Ken. Life got in the way, finally trying to finish this project. Lots of different capacitors out there. I'm looking for a ceramic disc, or one that looks like a can. When I install, does the capacitor's polarity matter? Shielded cable. Single conductor. Shield acts as the ground wire at board and rca plugs. correct?
 

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Welcome back Capt Ken (Ken J).
A ceramic disc OR can type? A ceramic and electrolytic are very different. Electros are polarised and ceramics are not. Which is it you require?.
Shielded cable will be connected to ground. Normally at both ends but on occasion, only one end is grounded. You’ll ground both ends.


Martin
 

Ken J

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Capacators come in several types. Ceramic disks are easy to identify, others look like small soup cans with leads out the bottom. Bertus several posts up suggests I add capacators to the out going feed. What kind? Depending on type, does polarity matter.
 

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Ah ok, they are electrolytic caps. First time hearing that they look like a can of soup!.They have a dark/black line identifying the negative side.
Polarity will be the same as the schematic, (-) from selector and (+) to EQ input. Same for each channel. If you add the RCAs, (+) to centre pins.


Martin
 

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Electrolytic capacitors are used for power supply filters and for coupling low impedances. Ceramic capacitors are used for filtering and tuning radio frequencies and cause distortion when used for coupling audio.
Plastic Film capacitors are used for coupling medium to high impedance audio for extremely low distortion.
 

Ken J

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Thanks, I can solder and follow simple electronic/wiring diagrams, but most of my electrical engineering knowledge was left at college almost 50 years ago. Miss my rock and roll. Get the "soup can" type and get to work.:)
 

Ken J

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is this what I need to buy?
MFG_WCAP-PTHR.jpg
 

Ken J

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it doesn't look like the image posted. Digikey item
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