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1) You have the audio output of the radio tuner shorted directly to +12V. Then there is no audio and the LM386 will be destroyed.
2) The simulation program needs a model of the LM386 and you must show its pins numbers on the schematic.
3) R4 is not needed but you need a volume control.

The inductance of L1, L2 and L3 are all the same. It is strange that you have L1 tuned with 170pf but you also have L2 plus L3 in series also tuned with 170pF then their resonant frequencies are completely different. Most Foster-Seeley discriminator circuits on the internet have variable capacitors so that they can all be tuned to the same 10.7MHz. Shouldn't the value of C3 be half of 170pF which is 85pF?
 

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1) You have the audio output of the radio tuner shorted directly to +12V. Then there is no audio and the LM386 will be destroyed.
2) The simulation program needs a model of the LM386 and you must show its pins numbers on the schematic.
3) R4 is not needed but you need a volume control.

The inductance of L1, L2 and L3 are all the same. It is strange that you have L1 tuned with 170pf but you also have L2 plus L3 in series also tuned with 170pF then their resonant frequencies are completely different. Most Foster-Seeley discriminator circuits on the internet have variable capacitors so that they can all be tuned to the same 10.7MHz. Shouldn't the value of C3 be half of 170pF which is 85pF?
look i change why he dont work now now
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1) You have the audio output of the radio tuner shorted directly to +12V. Then there is no audio and the LM386 will be destroyed.
2) The simulation program needs a model of the LM386 and you must show its pins numbers on the schematic.
3) R4 is not needed but you need a volume control.

The inductance of L1, L2 and L3 are all the same. It is strange that you have L1 tuned with 170pf but you also have L2 plus L3 in series also tuned with 170pF then their resonant frequencies are completely different. Most Foster-Seeley discriminator circuits on the internet have variable capacitors so that they can all be tuned to the same 10.7MHz. Shouldn't the value of C3 be half of 170pF which is 85pF?
Sorry that i disturby, what for wrong now is circuit can you help please is almost finish
 

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Do you know what is a "model" of an LM386? it has all the specifications so the simulation program knows its input pin numbers, how much voltage gain it has and how much output current it has.

I think your sim program does not have a model of an LM386.
Disconnect C8 from the LM386 and have your sim program look at the output of C8.
 

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Do you know what is a "model" of an LM386? it has all the specifications so the simulation program knows its input pin numbers, how much voltage gain it has and how much output current it has.

I think your sim program does not have a model of an LM386.
Disconnect C8 from the LM386 and have your sim program look at the output of C8.
I see simulation, but i get some strange picture, i dont know is correct of now, how must to sffm 2V 10.7MEG 50 1KHZ Right,
 

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You have 0 30Mm 10.7Meg 50 1000 in SFFM:
1) The sim program does not know 30Mm which should be about 500mV.
2) The 50 is the modulation index that should be 2000.

You also have an AC command that should be removed because it shows the frequency response of
something. The sim program cannot make an FM signal SFFM and an AC frequency response at the same time.
 
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You have 0 30Mm 10.7Meg 50 1000 in SFFM:
1) The sim program does not know 30Mm which should be about 500mV.
2) The 50 is the modulation index that should be 2000.

You also have an AC command that should be removed because it shows the frequency response of
something. The sim program cannot make an FM signal SFFM and an AC frequency response at the same time.
Goodmornig Audioguru, with or without ac i try get this result, how can i see that i demulate one signal?
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Your LM386 is a mess and I think your simulation program does not know what it is. Delete it and have the sim program show you the signals at C8.

You have C4 and C5 at 0.01uF which is 10,000pF. All other discriminators and your old ones have 200pF.
 

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Your LM386 is a mess and I think your simulation program does not know what it is. Delete it and have the sim program show you the signals at C8.

You have C4 and C5 at 0.01uF which is 10,000pF. All other discriminators and your old ones have 200pF.
This is signal out from C8, make C4 100pF and C5 = 100pf E DISCONNECT LM386 THIS THE FOTO HERE2.png
 
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Your "oscilloscope" timebase is very fast at 0.5us per division and shows a tiny 5MHz waveform on top of a much lower frequency. To see the 1kHz demodulated waveform then the timebase must be much slower at maybe 1ms per division.
 

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Your "oscilloscope" timebase is very fast at 0.5us per division and shows a tiny 5MHz waveform on top of a much lower frequency. To see the 1kHz demodulated waveform then the timebase must be much slower at maybe 1ms per division.[/QUOT
look i increase voltage to 700mV i get this, please tell me wht to do2.png
 

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Your "oscilloscope" timebase is very fast at 0.5us per division and shows a tiny 5MHz waveform on top of a much lower frequency. To see the 1kHz demodulated waveform then the timebase must be much slower at maybe 1ms per division.
HI Audioguru, i can do it only with 10mV(when i try 600mV 700mV i take ouput like the other one line sharp) input sffm, and i get this, can you tell me is demulated is normal good working, second picture i zoom it, with input signal2.png 22.png
 
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Why are you making a simulation when you do not understand how to set up the simulation?
The "timebase" for the oscilloscope of the simulator is set with the TRAN command. Here is how to set TRAN (right click on it) to show the 1kHz demodulated waveform on C8:
Stop Time: 100m
Time to start saving data: 95m
Maximum Timestep: 10m
 

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Why are you making a simulation when you do not understand how to set up the simulation?
The "timebase" for the oscilloscope of the simulator is set with the TRAN command. Here is how to set TRAN (right click on it) to show the 1kHz demodulated waveform on C8:
Stop Time: 100m
Time to start saving data: 95m
Maximum Timestep: 10m
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Why are you making a simulation when you do not understand how to set up the simulation?
The "timebase" for the oscilloscope of the simulator is set with the TRAN command. Here is how to set TRAN (right click on it) to show the 1kHz demodulated waveform on C8:
Stop Time: 100m
Time to start saving data: 95m
Maximum Timestep: 10m
Hi AudioGuro is posibble another methode faster, i have to whait 100M or 1hour and half
 
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