Help with 4046 PLL

[Ed]

Hi,

I'm having trouble understanding the 4046 PLL data sheet. I want to lock on
to a frequency of 200KHz and remain locked between 150KHz and 250KHz. From
the data sheet I worked out I needed:

C1 = 100pF
R2 = 100K
R1 = 66K

But when I try these components the frequencies are much higher.

Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? The data sheet can be seen here:

http://home.planet.nl/~midde639/specs/HEF4046.PDF

I'm using 2.b on page 9 with:

Fmin = 150KHz
Fmax = 250KHz

Cheers,

 

[Andrew Holme]

Hi,

I'm having trouble understanding the 4046 PLL data sheet. I want to
lock on to a frequency of 200KHz and remain locked between 150KHz and
250KHz. From the data sheet I worked out I needed:

C1 = 100pF
R2 = 100K
R1 = 66K

But when I try these components the frequencies are much higher.

Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? The data sheet can be seen
here:

http://home.planet.nl/~midde639/specs/HEF4046.PDF

I'm using 2.b on page 9 with:

Fmin = 150KHz
Fmax = 250KHz

Cheers,

Are you using a HEF4046 or is it a 74HC4046?

 

[Ed]

Are you using a HEF4046 or is it a 74HC4046?

Sorry I should have mentioned that in the post. I'm using the HEF4046 with
a 12V regulated supply.

 

[John Popelish]

Hi,

I'm having trouble understanding the 4046 PLL data sheet. I want to lock on
to a frequency of 200KHz and remain locked between 150KHz and 250KHz. From
the data sheet I worked out I needed:

C1 = 100pF
R2 = 100K
R1 = 66K

But when I try these components the frequencies are much higher.

Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? The data sheet can be seen here:

http://home.planet.nl/~midde639/specs/HEF4046.PDF

I'm using 2.b on page 9 with:

Fmin = 150KHz
Fmax = 250KHz

Cheers,

Your choices don't look far off, but I would read the graphs this way.
With a 12 volt supply (interpolating between the 10 volt and 15 volt
supply lines), 100k for R1 and 100pF gives a minimum frequency from
Fig 8 of about 200kHz.

So R1 should be increased to about (200kHz/150Hz)*100kOhms=133kOhms.
I would increase that a bit to cover any capacitance tolerance and
stray pin capacitance. Say, 140kOhms.

To get the maximum frequency guaranteed to go above 250kHz, the
parallel combination of R1 and R2 need to be less than
(150kHz/250kHz)*R1=0.6*R1. I would go 10% lower, in case the cap has
the opposite worrisome tolerance. So .9*.6=.54

..54*R1=1/(1/R1+1/R2)
75,600=1/(1/140K+1/R2)
R2=164kOhms

See if something nearer to to these values work better.