# Help with circuit design of solar powered dog collar

Dec 2, 2020
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I'm currently in my second year of studying PDI and have been asked to design a product running off of renewable energies. My group and I have decided upon a solar-powered light up dog collar. We are going to use a 9v 3w solar panel that's small enough to go on the back of the dog's neck (on the collar), we want to run just 4 LEDs (30mA per 1) for at least 2 hours of the day, a maximum of 4 as we don't expect many dog walkers to walk their dog in the dark that long and we want to use NiMh rechargeable batteries (for their eco-friendliness) but aren't sure what voltage or mAh to go for and whether or not to hook them up in series-parallel, series, or parallel. So I was wondering if any of you have any suggestions? And another thing, does the way you connect batteries affect the time it takes them to charge? Thanks.

#### Harald Kapp

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Nov 17, 2011
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Since this is an assignment, I'll move this thread to the fitting homework forum. Please be aware that we will not do your homework or assignment. Rather we will guide you through the process so you can arrive at your own solution.
Believe me, this is a well practiced procedure and you will gain much more understanding this way.

Meanwhile here are a few tips to get you started:
Operating conditions will be mainly dictated by the LEDs you use. So your first decision has to be on the type of LEDs. Different LEDs have different requirements in terms of voltage and current.
Once you have settled on a specific LED type, you can determine the topology, i.e. series or parallel connection or a mixture of both serial and parallel connection of the LEDs to optimize pow utilization.
Check the parameters of the "9 V " panel. What is the real output voltage under load and under normal daylight lighting conditions (cloudy day). Depending on the outcome a suitable battery can be chosen.
Note that NiMh, the battery tape of choice in your team, charges to approx.1.4 V when full and discharges to approx. 1.2 V when empty. The number of cells to use in series depends on the max. voltage of the cells and the min. voltage of the solar panel.
You will then need
• a charging circuit to charge the battery. A linear circuit can only charge to battery voltages lower than the panel's voltage. A switch mode charger can charge to higher voltages, too (boost charger).
• a driver circuit to drive the LEDs (see our resource). Possibly a simple series resistor can be used in your project.

As for the required battery capacity: From the LED circuit (parallel, serial, see above) you can determine current required. Current times on-time gives the required min. capacity in milliamperehours (mAh). Taking into consideration that batteries cannot be drained from 100% charge state to 0 % charge state, only approx.80% of the battery capacity are useable. Add some loss due to aging and use e.g. 50% as long-time useable capacity. From the required load current and time (above value in mAh) get the battery capacity by dividing by these 50% (or simply multiply by 2).

Dec 2, 2020
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Yeah, I completely understand, and thanks for putting me in the right forum. This all helps put me in the right direction so thanks for your help!

#### Harald Kapp

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You're welcome. Come back if your progress stalls. We're happy to help.

#### Martaine2005

May 12, 2015
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@Harald Kapp .
You have a wonderful way of explaining and giving examples.
Are you a teacher/professor?
If not, you should be.

Martin

#### Harald Kapp

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@Martaine2005 : thanks for the laurel. I'm neither of both and I'm too old to become one (although in Germany, lacking sufficient numbers of real, educated teachers, it is currently comparatively easy to get a teaching job to fill up the ranks ).
I like to explain things in simple ways and and working along examples has helped me in the past to acquire new skills.

#### WHONOES

May 20, 2017
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NiMh batteries have a nominal O/P voltage of 1.2V. A cell is discharged when at 1V. It is possible to peak charge a cell to 1.4V or sometimes even higher.

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