hfe

[j van c]

Im my thread "transistors" from 22/9/04 Roger explained me how to determine
the C and E with the hfe test after determining the B.
I did a test with a H9012, which is a pnp(diode test).(Black at B measuring
600 mv versus E en C)
B,E and C are marked on the transistor. There's no doubt about this.
The two hfe values are 174 and 41.
So i took the 174-combination. It's quit the opposite.

Am i doiing something wrong.

 

[Roger Johansson]

Im my thread "transistors" from 22/9/04 Roger explained me how to
determine the C and E with the hfe test after determining the B.
I did a test with a H9012, which is a pnp(diode test).(Black at B
measuring 600 mv versus E en C)
B,E and C are marked on the transistor. There's no doubt about this.
The two hfe values are 174 and 41.
So i took the 174-combination. It's quit the opposite.

Am i doiing something wrong.

Well, that's a strange result.

Many transistors work equally well even if you reverse the C and E
connections, but it should work better if you connect it as the
manufacturer has intended it to be used.

You could try to use it in a common type of circuit, like a common
emitter amplifier circuit, and try it both ways and see what works best.

Maybe this type of test doesn't work so well for that particular type of
transistor, or maybe it is wrongly marked, I don't know, but that way to
identify the pins usually works.

 

[John S. Dyson]

Well, that's a strange result.

Many transistors work equally well even if you reverse the C and E
connections, but it should work better if you connect it as the
manufacturer has intended it to be used.

You could try to use it in a common type of circuit, like a common
emitter amplifier circuit, and try it both ways and see what works best.

Well -- you did qualify the claim that the transistor would work
'equally well', but the differences are very serious. For example,
the collector breakdown voltage in reverse would likely be much
much lower for most transsitors. Also, most discrete transistors
have much lower beta in reverse (however, you can find some that
have high beta in reverse, which can have significant effect on
Vce saturation voltage.)

John

 

[Roger Johansson]

Well -- you did qualify the claim that the transistor would work
'equally well', but the differences are very serious. For example,
the collector breakdown voltage in reverse would likely be much
much lower for most transsitors. Also, most discrete transistors
have much lower beta in reverse (however, you can find some that
have high beta in reverse, which can have significant effect on
Vce saturation voltage.)

I hope this clarifies the issue to "j van c" better than
what I could give him.

Thanks.