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me here

Jan 1, 1970
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son said:
But After Ruddy installs a super fast highway that
only the government will be able to afford, we're still going to be
in the same boat.

Do you really think this is going to happen?

It's all just spin - to cover their piss poor ability to meet their
election promises regarding the internet.

Rob



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terryc

Jan 1, 1970
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Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <""noujwas\"@yahoo.com . wrote

The Aussie farmers are good at very efficently producing most basics and
basic forms of meat. They just can not compete on what you call
"condiments" or the fiddly stuff that requires lots of hands on work.

The figures I remember of $90B exports and $125B imports for food stuff.
Like hell it is.

your ignorance is not my problem.
 
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terryc

Jan 1, 1970
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terryc wrote


Like hell it is.

Hey, with a snappy come back like that, you could launch a new career as
a farm consultants. Heck, the farmers would at least get a good laugh out
of you.
 
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Rod Speed

Jan 1, 1970
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terryc wrote
Rod Speed wrote
The Aussie farmers are good at very efficently producing most basics and
basic forms of meat. They just can not compete on what you call "condiments"

Its a hell of a lot more than just "condiments" that are imported.
or the fiddly stuff that requires lots of hands on work.

And that in spades.
The figures I remember of $90B exports and $125B imports for food stuff.

That is just plain wrong.

http://www.dfat.gov.au/facts/foodindustry.html
your ignorance is not my problem.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
 
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Rod Speed

Jan 1, 1970
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terryc wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Hey, with a snappy come back like that, you
could launch a new career as a farm consultants.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

YOU made that stupid pig ignorant claim.

YOU get to substantiate that stupid pig ignorant claim.

THATS how it works.
 
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terryc

Jan 1, 1970
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terryc wrote


Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

YOU made that stupid pig ignorant claim.

YOU get to substantiate that stupid pig ignorant claim.

Those who need to know, know that it is true. Others, shrug, their
problem.
 
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Rod Speed

Jan 1, 1970
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Fred wrote
I think it will happen but it won't be overnight. Projects like these take years. Probably ten years until near
completion.

It remains to be seen if it will even make it thru the senate.
There is a lot of spin but it's more to do with putting pressure on Telstra to stop obfuscating and start cooperating.

Yes, but it remains to be seen if that 'pressure' makes it thru the senate.
The Government and Telstra are in negotiations about price of Telstra assets.

But its very unlikely that Telstra is prepared to accept what the govt is prepared
to pay for those assets, particularly if the 'pressure' doesnt make it thru the senate.
 
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Bob Larter

Jan 1, 1970
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The said:
I wonder how they determine that our cost for 1mbps is $1 - $5 per
month. Even if that is per each 1mbps, it seems far too low.

Yeah, I'd call it more like $10-$20/mbps/month.
 
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me here

Jan 1, 1970
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Rod said:
Fred wrote


It remains to be seen if it will even make it thru the senate.



Yes, but it remains to be seen if that 'pressure' makes it thru the
senate.


But its very unlikely that Telstra is prepared to accept what the
govt is prepared to pay for those assets, particularly if the
'pressure' doesnt make it thru the senate.

I can only agree. The govt valuation is ludicrously low.

IMHO the govt has just raised this whole scheme as a matter to squash
criticism of their inaction (and lampoon the previous govt for theirs).

They know full well that it will take years to pass legislation, find
corporate partners, fund, and implement. They will be long gone from
office before anything meaningful is done.

In the meantime the telcos will carry on rolling out fibre links on an
as required basis.

No wonder the rest of the world is supposedly watching this with great
interest, and probably wondering if fairy tales really do come true.

To top if off, my understandiing is that about 50% of broadband users
currently chose speeds no greater than 256, so how do they expect
different takeup rates with the ovekill speeds of the new system?

It's a joke.

Rob

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Mr.T

Jan 1, 1970
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me here said:
To top if off, my understandiing is that about 50% of broadband users
currently chose speeds no greater than 256, so how do they expect
different takeup rates with the ovekill speeds of the new system?
It's a joke.

It's a joke to think users are happy with what they currently pay for 256k.
And a bigger joke to think that most don't really want more speed and higher
download limits for less money, like most of the developed world.

MrT.
 
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me here

Jan 1, 1970
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Mr.T said:
It's a joke to think users are happy with what they currently pay for
256k. And a bigger joke to think that most don't really want more
speed and higher download limits for less money, like most of the
developed world.

MrT.

Of course we all want more for less.

But do you recon the proposed plan will deliver that? Fat chance.

As for our costs, the following comparison is interesting.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WLo5aw5Tn7s/SgEzrj9HQLI/AAAAAAAAAQg/XNdZGGMi0Q
0/s1600-h/Broadband+Stats.jpg

Rob

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me here

Jan 1, 1970
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Mr.T said:
No, never even suggested it would.




So we're behind Canada despite fairly similar population/density, no
surprise there.

MrT.

I was surprised how close the pricing was in comparative perspective.

Rob

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Rod Speed

Jan 1, 1970
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me here wrote
Rod Speed wrote
I can only agree. The govt valuation is ludicrously low.
IMHO the govt has just raised this whole scheme as a matter to squash
criticism of their inaction (and lampoon the previous govt for theirs).

I think its more that they were so stupid/pig ignorant that they
made the election promise and then discovered that it wasnt
going to be possible to deliver that they promised, so the dud
was actually stupid enough to turn that into FTTP and was so
stupid that he didnt realise that that wasnt deliverable.

Not for the first time either, he hasnt been able to deliver
on his election promise on hospitals or 'the homeless' either
or on a host of other stuff like new houses etc etc etc.
They know full well that it will take years to pass legislation,
find corporate partners, fund, and implement.

I doubt they did when they were stupid enough to turn the election promise into FTTP.
They will be long gone from office before anything meaningful is done.

Very likely, but I doubt that was deliberate.
In the meantime the telcos will carry on rolling
out fibre links on an as required basis.

Be interesting to see if they do much of that anymore.
No wonder the rest of the world is supposedly watching this with great interest,

Bet they dont even know what the dud is proposing.
and probably wondering if fairy tales really do come true.
To top if off, my understandiing is that about 50% of broadband users
currently chose speeds no greater than 256, so how do they expect
different takeup rates with the ovekill speeds of the new system?

Correct, tho they presumably would be happy to sign up for FTTP if
say the govt spent the $43B from the Future Fund on it and offered
them FTTP for the same price as they are currently paying for 256.

Corse its very arguable whether that $43B wouldnt be much better spent on hospitals etc instead.
It's a joke.

It is indeed. Nothing new with politicians tho.
 
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Mr.T

Jan 1, 1970
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me here said:
I was surprised how close the pricing was in comparative perspective.

Not from what I see on a GB/month basis.

MrT.
 
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