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Is operating more than 1 microwave oven in same kitchen safe?

Re: Is operating more than 1 microwave oven in same kitchen safe?

NO
the atoms will collide and can cause a nuclear explosion!

( nuclear pronounced: (newk ya lerr))

lol.
 
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NSM

Jan 1, 1970
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[2F03] Treehouse of Horror V

"Time and Punishment: Homer's toaster transports him to the past, where he
inadvertently changes the future."

I think this is my favorite episode. Especially when he screams and goes
back to the past when they don't know what donuts are - just as it starts
raining donuts!

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NSM

Jan 1, 1970
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| Not even "if available"? I would think that two normal power units on
| the same 15 amp breaker would pop it rather frequently.

Most kitchens are wired with split 220 so just choose the upper for one and
the lower for the other.

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AZGuy said:
I'd like to know just what about my "argument" you think sucks. I
very clearly said "unless you are standing VERY close to the microwave

The supporting factoids that you gave for your conclusion were:
(A) That you do it a lot, and that (B) it's only radio waves.

The first factoid is irrelevent, all it proves is that it hasn't
killed you yet. and the second is almost, but not completely, false.
It's not "just radio waves", it's microwaves. And if you actually
managed to expose yourself to them, they could and would kill you.

I agree that operating two of them is safe, but the reason for that
is that the microwaves stay inside the oven, not that microwaves
aren't dangerous.

--Goedjn
 
Watch MythBusters. The guys took out 5 magnetrons from (duh) 5 microwaves,
aligned them all to "air at the same target in a makeshift microwave. As
they measured the microwave radiation from different points, what they
recorded was in fact startling to them. The microwaves cancelled each other
out. The likelihood of the magnetrons starting at the exact same point of
the sine wave is very slim. The misalignment of the waves as they converge
causes a disturbance to the individual waves in turn reducing the overall
"effectiveness" of the microwave radiation.

Wow... I suggest that you find someone who (A) you trust, and (B) who
can reasonably be expected to know something about the subject, and have
them explain to you the many things wrong with that.

--Goedjn
 
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AZGuy

Jan 1, 1970
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The supporting factoids that you gave for your conclusion were:
(A) That you do it a lot, and that (B) it's only radio waves.

The first factoid is irrelevent, all it proves is that it hasn't
killed you yet. and the second is almost, but not completely, false.
It's not "just radio waves", it's microwaves. And if you actually
managed to expose yourself to them, they could and would kill you.

I guess you don't know this well kept secret but "microwaves" ARE
radio waves. They are just at a much higher frequency then what your
radio and TV set use. For the same reason you don't want to sit
inside a microwave oven you don't want to stand in front of a radar
antenna. Both use "microwave" frequencies and both are absorbed by
whatever hunk of meat is in their path. The absorbed energy
dissipates in the meat and turns to heat. It was this sort of
accident around radar that gave someone the idea of making a microwave
oven.


And mere exposure to microwaves won't kill you. If you travel by plane
or are ever near an airport (or a police radar gun for that matter)
you get exposed to microwaves. It is only if you get VERY close to
the transmitting antenna that you have a problem. The more powerful
the transmitter, the farther away "close" is.
I agree that operating two of them is safe, but the reason for that
is that the microwaves stay inside the oven, not that microwaves
aren't dangerous.

--Goedjn

--
Elbridge Gerry, of Massachusetts:

"What, sir, is the use of militia? It is to prevent the
establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. . .
Whenever Government means to invade the rights and liberties of
the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order
to raise a standing army upon its ruins." -- Debate, U.S. House
of Representatives, August 17, 1789
 
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Isaac Wingfield

Jan 1, 1970
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chillermfg said:
Watch MythBusters. The guys took out 5 magnetrons from (duh) 5 microwaves,
aligned them all to "air at the same target in a makeshift microwave. As
they measured the microwave radiation from different points, what they
recorded was in fact startling to them. The microwaves cancelled each other
out. The likelihood of the magnetrons starting at the exact same point of
the sine wave is very slim. The misalignment of the waves as they converge
causes a disturbance to the individual waves in turn reducing the overall
"effectiveness" of the microwave radiation.

There is ZERO chance that five magnetrons (or even two) would be
operating at the same frequency, much less the same phase. If they're
not on the same frequency, they cannot operate coherently, and if
they're not coherent, their powers cannot "add".

Isaac
 
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**THE-RFI-EMI-GUY**

Jan 1, 1970
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I think Mythbusters botched that one. Had they properly terminated and
combined the magnetrons there should have been some degree of injection
lock and therefore, coherence. I have toyed with this idea for an EME
(moonbounce) experiment. I don't recall what they used to measure power
with, but a thermal power meter would have shown some additive power
regadless of "coherence".

The RFI-EMI Guy

Isaac said:
There is ZERO chance that five magnetrons (or even two) would be
operating at the same frequency, much less the same phase. If they're
not on the same frequency, they cannot operate coherently, and if
they're not coherent, their powers cannot "add".

Isaac

--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"

The Lost Deep Thoughts By: Jack Handey
Before a mad scientist goes mad, there's probably a time
when he's only partially mad. And this is the time when he's
going to throw his best parties.
 
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Mark

Jan 1, 1970
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RF can burn you. If you held on to a metal antenna that was pushing 100W
through it on VHF, you'd feel it...

Granted a microwave is pushing far less and at the opposite end of the
practical RF band, but this falls in to the same category about people who are
worried they'll get brain cancer from using cell phones. We won't know for
another 20 years on that one.

Are there any reports of people getting cancer from microwaves? I don't
recall any. They've been around for 15-20 years mainstream.
 
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