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Uncle Al

Jan 1, 1970
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Jan said:
Killer laser:

Legal? I think not.

Invert the phase 180 degrees and it is resurrection laser. Legal? I
think not.
 
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Bob Myers

Jan 1, 1970
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Jan Panteltje said:
Killer laser:

Legal? I think not.

Why not? It would certainly be illegal to SELL such a
product without the appropriate warning stickers,
certifications, and such, but making one of your own
from readily-available components? How is that
illegal? Doesn't even look like all THAT powerful
a laser.

I know how to make any number of pretty damn
dangerous gadgets from items available for purchase
in any decent hardware store...but would it be
illegal for me to do so, in general? (Ignoring, for
the purposes of this question, the creation of certain
controlled materials such as explosives.)

Bob M.
 
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Benj

Jan 1, 1970
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Bob said:
Why not? It would certainly be illegal to SELL such a
product without the appropriate warning stickers,
certifications, and such, but making one of your own
from readily-available components? How is that
illegal? Doesn't even look like all THAT powerful
a laser.

Are you kidding? You obviously are not familiar with life in the NEW
America!
Hey, just POSSESSION of dangerous "terrorist" items is a crime. It's
a felony to build a model rocket that is too large or possess too much
model rocket fuel.
I know how to make any number of pretty damn
dangerous gadgets from items available for purchase
in any decent hardware store...but would it be
illegal for me to do so, in general? (Ignoring, for
the purposes of this question, the creation of certain
controlled materials such as explosives.)

See? This is what we are talking about! People can go right on the
internet and get information on building terrorist devices. This is
why the internet needs to be strictly censored and knowledgeable
people like you put in jail. I don't care if you've posted no
information so far. The fact that you know how to make "damn dangerous
gadgets" makes you a threat. In today's America we don't need a CRIME
to lock someone up. A "threat" is enough to do it!

If you think life is nuts now...just wait!
 
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Androcles

Jan 1, 1970
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[snip wet fart]
3) GPS receivers do not have atomic clocks.
4) Fuckhead.
 
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Androcles

Jan 1, 1970
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:
: : > Killer laser:
: >
: >
: > Legal? I think not.
:
: Why not? It would certainly be illegal to SELL such a
: product without the appropriate warning stickers,
: certifications, and such, but making one of your own
: from readily-available components? How is that
: illegal? Doesn't even look like all THAT powerful
: a laser.

: I know how to make any number of pretty damn
: dangerous gadgets from items available for purchase
: in any decent hardware store...but would it be
: illegal for me to do so, in general? (Ignoring, for
: the purposes of this question, the creation of certain
: controlled materials such as explosives.)
:
: Bob M.
:
I'm with you. It is illegal to drive on the right in my country.
Certainly anything is legal in most countries unless there is
a specific law against it.
Is a book of matches a controlled material?
It is after all an incendiary device. So is a cell phone...
 
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Radiosrfun

Jan 1, 1970
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Benj said:
Are you kidding? You obviously are not familiar with life in the NEW
America!
Hey, just POSSESSION of dangerous "terrorist" items is a crime. It's
a felony to build a model rocket that is too large or possess too much
model rocket fuel.


See? This is what we are talking about! People can go right on the
internet and get information on building terrorist devices. This is
why the internet needs to be strictly censored and knowledgeable
people like you put in jail. I don't care if you've posted no
information so far. The fact that you know how to make "damn dangerous
gadgets" makes you a threat. In today's America we don't need a CRIME
to lock someone up. A "threat" is enough to do it!

If you think life is nuts now...just wait!

Ben is right. First off - any "idiot" can go online to learn how to make
bombs of most if not all types. The information is all out there with it's
disclaimer of they're not responsible for actions as a result of that
information being made public.

Yes, you can make them from most anything easily available - what you use
depends on how big a bang you want for your buck. One of the fields I am
involved in, I have taken classes dealing with bombs and response to them as
well as Terroristic Incidents and "many" others. I am "not" an expert - nor
will I claim to be - but I do know the stuff is out there. We have
presently - a few miles from my location - someone using homemade devices to
explode mail boxes. Though "I" am not an expert, I do have access to a wide
array of those who are - at a moments notice.

There was a nearby college student not many months ago - arrested for having
"bomb making materials" in his possession. He was arrested and charged
accordingly.

The Feds, State and Local authorities are NOT taking those things lightly -
with the on going threat as it exists - of terrorism.
Get caught - you may lose your freedom for a LONG time. All you need is to
run your mouth once - and/or a concerned neighbor or someone maybe even a
"Store clerk" - report you for being suspicious - and it will be all over.
Clerks are asked to report anyone buying large quantities of materials known
to be used or the "combinations".

I agree with Ben, life is nuts now - but not nearly as it may be. It's a
shame, but with all the ass holes out there - we have to take steps to
protect our people. When you have "American" kids / adults - acting in
behalf of the Islamists and all the other radical groups out there - you
can't take chances.

L.
 
The main problem I have with this laser in a flashlight is
that it has no safety, a kid can find it, switch it on, look into it,
and / or burn anyone else's eyes out.
The max power is 1mW here for laserpointers IIRC (EU).

As a terrorist weapon ? No, better get some Pu.
 
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Spehro Pefhany

Jan 1, 1970
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Invert the phase 180 degrees and it is resurrection laser. Legal? I
think not.

"Illegal"? Who's business is it? In the US, the FDA might care if I
wanted to sell or advertise them, but otherwise?

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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Benj

Jan 1, 1970
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Radiosrfun said:
I agree with Ben, life is nuts now - but not nearly as it may be. It's a
shame, but with all the ass holes out there - we have to take steps to
protect our people. When you have "American" kids / adults - acting in
behalf of the Islamists and all the other radical groups out there - you
can't take chances.

Um. Sorry to clue you in Radiosrfun, but my mini rant wasn't
advocating the giving up of freedom for the PROMISE of security. As
Ben Franklin said, those willing to do that deserve neither! I was
simply making a point of the encroaching police state being fueled by
politicians lusting for power and people like you.

As for Androcles and the matchbook. Let me ask why do you think that
all the laws you are supposed to obey take up LIBRARIES of space. Do
you think for a minute that ANYONE could go through life never
violating at least ONE of them? EVERYONE HAS TO BE GUILTY! That way
each crime is determined by those in power rather than the rule of
law. Today our elected "representatives" don't even READ the crap
they pass. Our original system of government has been so subverted
that soon you'll be BEGGING for a king to act as God's representative
on Earth to sort it all out for us!

If you are willing to overthrow our traditions and American ideals
simply because of some difficult times in the world, then I can ASSURE
you that there are some politicians willing to CREATE those difficult
times so you will hand over your traditions. If this America, These
United States are meant to fall, then I say at least let them be
buried in holy ground!

So be it!
 
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Richard The Dreaded Libertarian

Jan 1, 1970
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: : > Killer laser:
: >
: >
: > Legal? I think not.
:
: Why not? It would certainly be illegal to SELL such a
: product without the appropriate warning stickers,
: certifications, and such, but making one of your own
: from readily-available components? How is that
: illegal? Doesn't even look like all THAT powerful
: a laser.

: I know how to make any number of pretty damn
: dangerous gadgets from items available for purchase
: in any decent hardware store...but would it be
: illegal for me to do so, in general? (Ignoring, for
: the purposes of this question, the creation of certain
: controlled materials such as explosives.)
:
I'm with you. It is illegal to drive on the right in my country.
Certainly anything is legal in most countries unless there is
a specific law against it.
Is a book of matches a controlled material?
It is after all an incendiary device. So is a cell phone...

A book of matches and a burning cigarette can make a dandy time-delay
fuze. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Radiosrfun

Jan 1, 1970
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Benj said:
Um. Sorry to clue you in Radiosrfun, but my mini rant wasn't
advocating the giving up of freedom for the PROMISE of security. As
Ben Franklin said, those willing to do that deserve neither! I was
simply making a point of the encroaching police state being fueled by
politicians lusting for power and people like you.

As for Androcles and the matchbook. Let me ask why do you think that
all the laws you are supposed to obey take up LIBRARIES of space. Do
you think for a minute that ANYONE could go through life never
violating at least ONE of them? EVERYONE HAS TO BE GUILTY! That way
each crime is determined by those in power rather than the rule of
law. Today our elected "representatives" don't even READ the crap
they pass. Our original system of government has been so subverted
that soon you'll be BEGGING for a king to act as God's representative
on Earth to sort it all out for us!

If you are willing to overthrow our traditions and American ideals
simply because of some difficult times in the world, then I can ASSURE
you that there are some politicians willing to CREATE those difficult
times so you will hand over your traditions. If this America, These
United States are meant to fall, then I say at least let them be
buried in holy ground!

So be it!

NOPE - not cluing me in. Was agreeing with where "you" were coming from -
but adding more to it as to how things are "treated". I don't like seeing
the liberties disappearing anymore than the next guy - but I do understand
why. As someone pointed out - a "lit cigarette" can be used as a delay
fuse - it is all in how you look at it. You can go silly with it or look at
it sensibly. Like the "Anthrax" scare - some old grannies here in town
thought someone placed some on their porch. Now come on - we all know -
those little old ladies weren't a target. SOME just take it to the extremes.
I DO understand what you're saying.
 
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Androcles

Jan 1, 1970
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: On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:18:21 +0000, Androcles wrote:
: > : : > : > Killer laser:
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > Legal? I think not.
: > :
: > : Why not? It would certainly be illegal to SELL such a
: > : product without the appropriate warning stickers,
: > : certifications, and such, but making one of your own
: > : from readily-available components? How is that
: > : illegal? Doesn't even look like all THAT powerful
: > : a laser.
: >
: > : I know how to make any number of pretty damn
: > : dangerous gadgets from items available for purchase
: > : in any decent hardware store...but would it be
: > : illegal for me to do so, in general? (Ignoring, for
: > : the purposes of this question, the creation of certain
: > : controlled materials such as explosives.)
: > :
: > I'm with you. It is illegal to drive on the right in my country.
: > Certainly anything is legal in most countries unless there is
: > a specific law against it.
: > Is a book of matches a controlled material?
: > It is after all an incendiary device. So is a cell phone...
:
: A book of matches and a burning cigarette can make a dandy time-delay
: fuze. ;-)
:
: Cheers!
: Rich
Yep, but a cell phone with a broken incandescent light bulb and a
match head resting against the filament is better, you only need
call its number to control when it goes off. It's no secret, Al Qaeda
used that for the Spanish train bombings
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3597885.stm
 
: On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:18:21 +0000, Androcles wrote:
: > :: > : > Killer laser:
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > Legal? I think not.
: > :
: > : Why not? It would certainly be illegal to SELL such a
: > : product without the appropriate warning stickers,
: > : certifications, and such, but making one of your own
: > : from readily-available components? How is that
: > : illegal? Doesn't even look like all THAT powerful
: > : a laser.
: >
: > : I know how to make any number of pretty damn
: > : dangerous gadgets from items available for purchase
: > : in any decent hardware store...but would it be
: > : illegal for me to do so, in general? (Ignoring, for
: > : the purposes of this question, the creation of certain
: > : controlled materials such as explosives.)
: > :
: > I'm with you. It is illegal to drive on the right in my country.
: > Certainly anything is legal in most countries unless there is
: > a specific law against it.
: > Is a book of matches a controlled material?
: > It is after all an incendiary device. So is a cell phone...
:
: A book of matches and a burning cigarette can make a dandy time-delay
: fuze. ;-)
:
: Cheers!
: Rich
Yep, but a cell phone with a broken incandescent light bulb and a
match head resting against the filament is better, you only need
call its number to control when it goes off. It's no secret, Al Qaeda
used that for the Spanish train bombings
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3597885.stm

Yep, but what middle school student with an IQ of greater than 80
doesn't know this?

In point of fact, those middle school students whose hope is to go on
to a first rate college would laugh at you with your matcheads and
filaments. Most would realize that you couldn't set off a high order
detonation with a filament and matchead. Most of these kids would have
the brains to call Uncle Steve, who works in the mines somewhere in
West Virginia or Pensylvania and have him send them a half-diozen #6
electric blasting caps to play with, and yes, they are capable of
initiating a high order deteronation.

I't ain't rocket science!

Another uncle, a guy that lets say is Ralph, swipes fom the mine and
send then 6 stick of Dupont Extra Dynamite, and he ships them by
parcel post.

Back in the late 1950s, while in college I actually witness this
taking place, and guess what, the explosives where harmlessly
detonated for education and recreatinoal purposes.

If you believe that the same thing does not go on today, then you are
very naive. The governmnet has absolutely no infuence on this flow of
explosive materials....and I would say that this continues without any
downside. Heck, the Pennylvania and West Virginia Coal Miners
would...I really don't want to say what they would do to demonstated
terrorists, so in my mind they are defenders of our national security.

Still, they regard explosives as simply teaching materials, but
realize that if a terrorist were to get their hands on such material,
people they love could be hurt or killed. Lemme tell you: If I were a
terroist and a thereat to the US, I'd really hope that the government
captured me first, because if these simple patriots laid hands on me,
only DNA would identify my body parts distutributed over 6 states, or
under a boulder dropped into a mine shaft than can never be moved.

Realize that many of these guys are more sopisticated than you might
at first imagine.

Harry C.
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Radiosrfun said:
NOPE - not cluing me in. Was agreeing with where "you" were coming from -
but adding more to it as to how things are "treated". I don't like seeing
the liberties disappearing anymore than the next guy - but I do understand
why. As someone pointed out - a "lit cigarette" can be used as a delay
fuse - it is all in how you look at it. You can go silly with it or look at
it sensibly. Like the "Anthrax" scare - some old grannies here in town
thought someone placed some on their porch. Now come on - we all know -
those little old ladies weren't a target. SOME just take it to the extremes.
I DO understand what you're saying.


A couple salesmen at another office of a company I worked for thought
it would be funny to fill an envelope with talcum powder and drop it
near one of the secretary's desks. They were both fired, and ended up
in jail. Real funny.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Meat Plow

Jan 1, 1970
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Anybody know what the output power of a DVD burner diode is?
Mike

Not enough to light a candle and I don't think it's visible either.
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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only DNA would identify my body parts distutributed over 6 states, or
under a boulder dropped into a mine shaft than can never be moved.

How would you ever move a mine shaft anyway? ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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