# Oscilloscope continued.....

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#### Rylos

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi Everyone,

Thanks for the responses I got previously on scopes. I have the opportunity
to purchase a used Tektronix 465. The guy is local too(about 1 hour away) so
I could save shipping costs. He's asking $275 firm. Granted I have seen them go for cheaper on ebay but then the shipping costs can be high and most used scopes on ebay don't come with the manual or any probes (more expense). The one he's selling does "contain manual and probe" stated in his ad and he also says it is in working order with no external or internal defects. He has no digital camera but is going to try and take some conventional photos, perhaps scan or something I don't know. So I have some more questions for him and I'd appreciate if anybody here would like to add to this list. Also can anyone tell me what these scopes came with completely when they were new (extra probe tips, connectors, cover etc), if it's missing some original stuff perhaps I can use that as bargaining leverage, he said "probe" in his ad. I assume it came with two, I'll have to clarify that with him. Here are my questions for him now: 1. Are you the original owner? 2. How long have you owned it? 3. Has it ever been re-calibrated to your knowledge and if so how long ago? 4. Does it come with (blah, blah, blah, insert all original contents here) 5. Can you please be more explicit about it's appearance? (dirt, scratches) 6. Do any of the pots buttons or switches seem overly dirty or scratchy? That said, assuming it's in good working condition as he states, is$275 a
fair price? Thanks folks.

-Dave

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#### John Fields

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi Everyone,

Thanks for the responses I got previously on scopes. I have the opportunity
to purchase a used Tektronix 465. The guy is local too(about 1 hour away) so
I could save shipping costs. He's asking $275 firm. Granted I have seen them go for cheaper on ebay but then the shipping costs can be high and most used scopes on ebay don't come with the manual or any probes (more expense). The one he's selling does "contain manual and probe" stated in his ad and he also says it is in working order with no external or internal defects. He has no digital camera but is going to try and take some conventional photos, perhaps scan or something I don't know. So I have some more questions for him and I'd appreciate if anybody here would like to add to this list. Also can anyone tell me what these scopes came with completely when they were new (extra probe tips, connectors, cover etc), if it's missing some original stuff perhaps I can use that as bargaining leverage, he said "probe" in his ad. I assume it came with two, I'll have to clarify that with him. Here are my questions for him now: 1. Are you the original owner? 2. How long have you owned it? 3. Has it ever been re-calibrated to your knowledge and if so how long ago? 4. Does it come with (blah, blah, blah, insert all original contents here) 5. Can you please be more explicit about it's appearance? (dirt, scratches) 6. Do any of the pots buttons or switches seem overly dirty or scratchy? That said, assuming it's in good working condition as he states, is$275 a
fair price? Thanks folks.

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Since he's only an hour away, call him up and tell him you'd like to
come by and take a look at the scope, then put $275 cash in your pocket and head on over there. Once you get there you can get him to demo it (so you can find out first-hand whether it works or not, and how well) and find out what's included and what isn't, etc., etc., etc. Then, either buy it or not, and since you've got cash in your pocket you might be able to do a little horse trading. J #### John Miller Jan 1, 1970 0 Rylos said: 1. Are you the original owner? 2. How long have you owned it? 3. Has it ever been re-calibrated to your knowledge and if so how long ago? 4. Does it come with (blah, blah, blah, insert all original contents here) 5. Can you please be more explicit about it's appearance? (dirt, scratches) 6. Do any of the pots buttons or switches seem overly dirty or scratchy? 7. As you rotate the intensity knob clockwise, does the brightness increase proportionately, or does it peak, fall off and climb again? (Indicative of a CRT getting long in the tooth.) -- John Miller email address: domain, n4vu.com; username, jsm Surplus (FSoT): New Conn V1 double trumpet case, no logo Tektronix 465B oscilloscope with above symptom J #### Joe Jan 1, 1970 0 Rylos said: Hi Everyone, Thanks for the responses I got previously on scopes. I have the opportunity to purchase a used Tektronix 465. The guy is local too(about 1 hour away) so I could save shipping costs. He's asking$275 firm. Granted I have seen them
go for cheaper on ebay but then the shipping costs can be high and most used
scopes on ebay don't come with the manual or any probes (more expense). The
one he's selling does "contain manual and probe" stated in his ad and he
also says it is in working order with no external or internal defects. He
has no digital camera but is going to try and take some conventional photos,
perhaps scan or something I don't know.

So I have some more questions for him and I'd appreciate if anybody here
would like to add to this list. Also can anyone tell me what these scopes
came with completely when they were new (extra probe tips, connectors, cover
etc), if it's missing some original stuff perhaps I can use that as
bargaining leverage, he said "probe" in his ad. I assume it came with two,
I'll have to clarify that with him. Here are my questions for him now:

1. Are you the original owner?
2. How long have you owned it?
3. Has it ever been re-calibrated to your knowledge and if so how long ago?
4. Does it come with (blah, blah, blah, insert all original contents here)
5. Can you please be more explicit about it's appearance? (dirt, scratches)
6. Do any of the pots buttons or switches seem overly dirty or scratchy?

That said, assuming it's in good working condition as he states, is $275 a fair price? Thanks folks. -Dave When I bought my tek 465B (is yours a B or an A?), I brought a little adjustable homemade 555 timer circuit with 2 speaker leads sticking out of the board so I could input different frequencies and check both channels. I knew ahead of time they did not come with probes. The 465B was the one I settled on, this was at a cable company that was liquidating its test equipment, and they had about 4 or 5 tek scopes left, so I tested them all. My final price was US$150, but no probes, no manual. That was almost a year
ago and it still works fine. It had last been calibrated in 1991 according
to the sticker on it. I have since found tek 465B manuals on the web, and
bought velleman probes (100MHZ) for $29.95, and it was the best investment I ever made. Go and visit the guy, bring your money, check it out and maybe you can haggle a little with him.$275 is probly a fair price if it works
ok, but if you can get it for, say $200, that's even better. You may also want to check out ebay and see what they are going for there. hth, Joe L #### Louis Bybee Jan 1, 1970 0 Joe said: away) When I bought my tek 465B (is yours a B or an A?), I brought a little adjustable homemade 555 timer circuit with 2 speaker leads sticking out of the board so I could input different frequencies and check both channels. I knew ahead of time they did not come with probes. The 465B was the one I settled on, this was at a cable company that was liquidating its test equipment, and they had about 4 or 5 tek scopes left, so I tested them all. My final price was US$150, but no probes, no manual. That was almost a year
ago and it still works fine. It had last been calibrated in 1991 according
to the sticker on it. I have since found tek 465B manuals on the web, and
bought velleman probes (100MHZ) for $29.95, and it was the best investment I ever made. Go and visit the guy, bring your money, check it out and maybe you can haggle a little with him.$275 is probly a fair price if it works
ok, but if you can get it for, say $200, that's even better. You may also want to check out ebay and see what they are going for there. hth, Joe Did you happen to locate 465B user, and service manuals in electronic format on the web? If so could you share the links? Thank you. Louis D #### David L. Jones Jan 1, 1970 0 Rylos said: Hi Everyone, Thanks for the responses I got previously on scopes. I have the opportunity to purchase a used Tektronix 465. The guy is local too(about 1 hour away) so I could save shipping costs. He's asking$275 firm. Granted I have seen them
go for cheaper on ebay but then the shipping costs can be high and most used
scopes on ebay don't come with the manual or any probes (more expense). The
one he's selling does "contain manual and probe" stated in his ad and he
also says it is in working order with no external or internal defects. He
has no digital camera but is going to try and take some conventional photos,
perhaps scan or something I don't know.

So I have some more questions for him and I'd appreciate if anybody here
would like to add to this list. Also can anyone tell me what these scopes
came with completely when they were new (extra probe tips, connectors, cover
etc), if it's missing some original stuff perhaps I can use that as
bargaining leverage, he said "probe" in his ad. I assume it came with two,
I'll have to clarify that with him. Here are my questions for him now:

1. Are you the original owner?
2. How long have you owned it?
3. Has it ever been re-calibrated to your knowledge and if so how long ago?
4. Does it come with (blah, blah, blah, insert all original contents here)
5. Can you please be more explicit about it's appearance? (dirt, scratches)
6. Do any of the pots buttons or switches seem overly dirty or scratchy?

That said, assuming it's in good working condition as he states, is $275 a fair price? Thanks folks. -Dave Make sure you ask about or preferably check yourself for screen image "burn-in". This is a permanent image burned into the screen from having a stationary waveform left on for long periods. A common problem with second hand abused scopes. Check what probes it comes with too, they could be cheap crappy low bandwidth probes which are almost worthless. Dave D #### Dr. Anton T. Squeegee Jan 1, 1970 0 That said, assuming it's in good working condition as he states, is$275 a
fair price? Thanks folks.

$275 for a 465? It had better be in near-mint condition at that price.$200 is more reasonable for a used one.

This, however, is based on my own regional experience (Pacific
Northwest and Bay Area sources). Things may be different in your area.

At the very least, I would expect it to be fully operational,
preferably calibrated within the last two years, and reasonably clean.

Happy hunting.

--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm -- www.bluefeathertech.com
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
with surreal ports?"

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#### Rylos

Jan 1, 1970
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Hello Sir,

I too have already decided that's a bit high especially if it only comes
with one probe. I sent him my questions but haven't heard back yet. $200 would be a more acceptable price. Thanks for the response. -Dave Dr. Anton T. Squeegee said: That said, assuming it's in good working condition as he states, is$275 a
fair price? Thanks folks.

$275 for a 465? It had better be in near-mint condition at that price.$200 is more reasonable for a used one.

This, however, is based on my own regional experience (Pacific
Northwest and Bay Area sources). Things may be different in your area.

At the very least, I would expect it to be fully operational,
preferably calibrated within the last two years, and reasonably clean.

Happy hunting.

--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm -- www.bluefeathertech.com
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
with surreal ports?"

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#### Joe

Jan 1, 1970
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Louis Bybee said:
$275 channels. investment Did you happen to locate 465B user, and service manuals in electronic format on the web? If so could you share the links? Thank you. Louis Hi Louis, Yes, I got the link from someone in this group, but I'll be damned if I can remember the website I got the service manual from. It is in .djvu format and you have to download the reader from www.lizardtech.com Maybe the person who originally posted the links can help? Joe T #### TekMan Jan 1, 1970 0 Rylos said: Hello Sir, I too have already decided that's a bit high especially if it only comes with one probe. I sent him my questions but haven't heard back yet.$200
would be a more acceptable price. Thanks for the response.

-Dave

By the way: If you get a 465 scope without a manual, no need to worry:
complete 465B manual.
Which is 97% compatible to 465 .

hth,
Andreas

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#### Roger Johansson

Jan 1, 1970
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By the way: If you get a 465 scope without a manual, no need to worry:
complete 465B manual.
Which is 97% compatible to 465 .

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#### NO SPAM

Jan 1, 1970
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TekMan said:
"Rylos" <unknown> wrote in message

Some just like to get top dollar, without checking to see what the market is
doing. There are companies out there who sell via catalog/flyer/e-bay who do
the same, at times - worse, with some similar scopes "higher" than $275 and some of those aren't even to be working! So, you got to wonder why they even bother. They can't be unloading the stuff too awfully fast. I hate to think of all the money they've got sitting there collecting dust. NS T #### TekMan Jan 1, 1970 0 Roger Johansson said: How do we get a user name and password to download it? Why not read the FAQ on bama -- so you'd notice that there is no special userid/PW needed for DOWNLOAD. But I thing your question aims to ftp-ing in general. And, as a genaral rule for ftp download: Your User is the well-known anonymous, your PW is your email address . happy loading hth, Andreas R #### Roger Johansson Jan 1, 1970 0 And, as a genaral rule for ftp download: Your User is the well-known anonymous, your PW is your email address . happy loading Still doesn't work, now the problem is too many users, more than 10, connected. But thanks anyway. T #### TekMan Jan 1, 1970 0 Roger Johansson said: Still doesn't work, now the problem is too many users, more than 10, connected. But thanks anyway. It will NEVER work for you when you DO not READ the homepage thoroughly: 10 users max for bama 50 users bama.edebris.com Now the 1-million-$-question: Where will your chances be better to get
served?

Try the edebris mirror-site, and you'll be lucky soon

hth,
Andreas

PS: And before you run into the next question: You'll need a djvu
browser for the 465b manual from bama. On the homepage, the is the FAQ
that answer how, where and why to get/use it.

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#### TekMan

Jan 1, 1970
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Roger Johansson said:
Still doesn't work, now the problem is too many users, more than 10, connected.

But thanks anyway.

See other my dated today posting too, pls.
And one typo from mine (I apologize), the mirror ist named correctly:

http://bama.edebris.com

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#### Roger Johansson

Jan 1, 1970
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It will NEVER work for you when you DO not READ the homepage
thoroughly:

10 users max for bama
50 users bama.edebris.com

I resumed the transfer, and it stopped again, I resumed and it stopped
again, I resumed and then it stopped with an error, and could not be
resumed again.

So it is obviously not a well working service with minimum of hassle.

Anyhow, it is good that it exists at all, and if I ever get really
desperate for a manual I will try it again.

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