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Jan 1, 1970
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Visit the site, check out the picture

http://richarddawkins.net/article,5...With-New-Intelligent-Falling-Theory,The-Onion

"Things fall not because they are acted upon by some gravitational
force, but because a higher intelligence, 'God' if you will, is
pushing them down," said Gabriel Burdett, who holds degrees in
education, applied Scripture, and physics from Oral Roberts
University.

Burdett added: "Gravity—which is taught to our children as a law—is
founded on great gaps in understanding. The laws predict the mutual
force between all bodies of mass, but they cannot explain that force.
Isaac Newton himself said, 'I suspect that my theories may all depend
upon a force for which philosophers have searched all of nature in
vain.' Of course, he is alluding to a higher power."

It only gets better
A degree in "physics" from Oral Roberts "University? Is that even
possible?
 
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Tim Williams

Jan 1, 1970
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default said:
It only gets better

What, you got a problem with that? Gravity IS a theory! So is everything
else science has discovered. Indeed, religion holds the only true facts
there are.

This shouldn't be suprising.

Tim
 
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Rich the Philosophizer

Jan 1, 1970
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"Things fall not because they are acted upon by some gravitational
force, but because a higher intelligence, 'God' if you will, is pushing
them down," said Gabriel Burdett, who holds degrees in education,
applied Scripture, and physics from Oral Roberts University.

Gravity is Love.

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.

Jan 1, 1970
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default said:
Visit the site, check out the picture

http://richarddawkins.net/article,5...With-New-Intelligent-Falling-Theory,The-Onion

"Things fall not because they are acted upon by some gravitational
force, but because a higher intelligence, 'God' if you will, is
pushing them down," said Gabriel Burdett, who holds degrees in
education, applied Scripture, and physics from Oral Roberts
University.

Burdett added: "Gravity-which is taught to our children as a law-is
founded on great gaps in understanding. The laws predict the mutual
force between all bodies of mass, but they cannot explain that force.
Isaac Newton himself said, 'I suspect that my theories may all depend
upon a force for which philosophers have searched all of nature in
vain.' Of course, he is alluding to a higher power."

It only gets better
A degree in "physics" from Oral Roberts "University? Is that even
possible?


What I find interesting is how many people didn't get the article as the
spoof it was (re-posted from The Onion). This sort of argument falls
completely within the realm of things that the I.D. folks come up with.
 
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Homer J Simpson

Jan 1, 1970
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"Things fall not because they are acted upon by some gravitational
force, but because a higher intelligence, 'God' if you will, is
pushing them down," said Gabriel Burdett, who holds degrees in
education, applied Scripture, and physics from Oral Roberts
University.

Galileo Was Wrong
http://www.galileowaswrong.com/

Official Geocentricity Website
http://www.geocentricity.com/

The Earth is not Moving:the granddaddy of all conspiracies
http://www.fixedearth.com/

The Geocentric Bible. Note the chapter titles
http://www.geocentricbible.com/
(contains link to "Galileo Was Wrong")
 
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Tim Wescott

Jan 1, 1970
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Tim said:
What, you got a problem with that? Gravity IS a theory! So is everything
else science has discovered. Indeed, religion holds the only true facts
there are.
More like religion holds all the folks who are arrogant enough to spit
in God's eye and tell Him what he's shaped like.
This shouldn't be suprising.

And it isn't. Any time you set up a system where the loudest collection
of a**holes wins money, influence and power you'll attract a loud
collection of a**holes.

To the detriment of the folks who _really_ want to grow closer to the
divine -- but they don't dispense money, influence or power, so who cares?


--

Tim Wescott
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http://www.wescottdesign.com

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"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" came out in April.
See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html
 
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default

Jan 1, 1970
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What I find interesting is how many people didn't get the article as the
spoof it was (re-posted from The Onion). This sort of argument falls
completely within the realm of things that the I.D. folks come up with.

If is so believable - absolutely perfect satire

"Liberty University" says they have a 6,000 year old dinosaur -
 
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.

Jan 1, 1970
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default said:
If is so believable - absolutely perfect satire

"Liberty University" says they have a 6,000 year old dinosaur -

I didn't know JT was on the faculty there. ;-)

--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:p[email protected]
------------------------------------------------------------------
A bather whose clothing was strewed
By breezes that left her quite nude,
Saw a man come along
And, unless I'm quite wrong,
You expect this line to be lewd.
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Paul Hovnanian P.E. said:
I didn't know JT was on the faculty there. ;-)


No, its the remains of the first known Republican. ;-)


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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Robert Baer

Jan 1, 1970
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default said:
Visit the site, check out the picture

http://richarddawkins.net/article,5...With-New-Intelligent-Falling-Theory,The-Onion

"Things fall not because they are acted upon by some gravitational
force, but because a higher intelligence, 'God' if you will, is
pushing them down," said Gabriel Burdett, who holds degrees in
education, applied Scripture, and physics from Oral Roberts
University.

Burdett added: "Gravity—which is taught to our children as a law—is
founded on great gaps in understanding. The laws predict the mutual
force between all bodies of mass, but they cannot explain that force.
Isaac Newton himself said, 'I suspect that my theories may all depend
upon a force for which philosophers have searched all of nature in
vain.' Of course, he is alluding to a higher power."

It only gets better
A degree in "physics" from Oral Roberts "University? Is that even
possible?
.... onlyif you are a very oral person withproperly placed l*ps.
 
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Richard Henry

Jan 1, 1970
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This seems to be the original version:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39512

The Christian haters are happy to pick up a parody like that and
widely repeat as serious Belief, so they can then mock it.

Like the bumper sticker says, mean people suck.

Actually, I think it is a mockery of Intelligent Design, even when you
know that it is a joke.

Is ID a serious Christian belief?
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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Actually, I think it is a mockery of Intelligent Design, even when you
know that it is a joke.

Is ID a serious Christian belief?

It's a serious theory among some people who aren't Christians.

John
 
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Richard Henry

Jan 1, 1970
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It's a serious theory among some people who aren't Christians.

I'm not sure what you mean. That's not really an answer, more of an
aside.

If you're serious, please name three non-Christian advocates of the
current Intelligent Design paradigm.
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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Late at night, by candle light, John Larkin


What's wrong with making fun of goofy beliefs? The ID people truly
believe they're on to something, however wrong. If they'd keep it to
themselves it would be allright but trying to legislate it down
everybody's throat is a big no-no in my book. That makes them a fair
target for everything thrown at them.

- YD.

Evolution, as it applies to the origin of DNA, is arguably a goofy
belief. I've seen calculation by serious scientists that resulted in
probabilities than most statisticians would classify as "impossible."

Until there's proof one way or another, any dismissal of a possible
origin for DNA is unreasoned prejudice.

Presenting possibilities is not the same as forcing beliefs down
anyone's throat. Personally, I lean towards the idea that DNA is a
very sophisticated algorithmic machine that was probably designed
somewhere else and transported to Earth. Far more radical concepts
have been proven true in the history of Science.

How can you call something wrong when you have no hard evidence that
something else is the right explanation? I sure hope you don't design
electronics that way.

John
 
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Homer J Simpson

Jan 1, 1970
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Actually, I think it is a mockery of Intelligent Design, even when you
know that it is a joke.

Is ID a serious Christian belief?

Not amongst Christians but certainly amongst the pseudo Christians who form
the proto fascist US rightwing.
 
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Homer J Simpson

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm not sure what you mean. That's not really an answer, more of an
aside.

If you're serious, please name three non-Christian advocates of the
current Intelligent Design paradigm.

Sure.

G W Bush
Pat Robertson
Jerry Falwell

All three propose Intelligent Design be taught and none is a Christian.
 
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Homer J Simpson

Jan 1, 1970
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What's wrong with making fun of goofy beliefs? The ID people truly
believe they're on to something, however wrong. If they'd keep it to
themselves it would be allright but trying to legislate it down
everybody's throat is a big no-no in my book. That makes them a fair
target for everything thrown at them.

As Bette Midler likes to say, "**** 'em if they can't take a joke".
 
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YD

Jan 1, 1970
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Late at night, by candle light, John Larkin
This seems to be the original version:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39512

The Christian haters are happy to pick up a parody like that and
widely repeat as serious Belief, so they can then mock it.

Like the bumper sticker says, mean people suck.

John

What's wrong with making fun of goofy beliefs? The ID people truly
believe they're on to something, however wrong. If they'd keep it to
themselves it would be allright but trying to legislate it down
everybody's throat is a big no-no in my book. That makes them a fair
target for everything thrown at them.

- YD.
 
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Ian Bell

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
Evolution, as it applies to the origin of DNA, is arguably a goofy
belief. I've seen calculation by serious scientists that resulted in
probabilities than most statisticians would classify as "impossible."

Until there's proof one way or another, any dismissal of a possible
origin for DNA is unreasoned prejudice.

That's a fair point. Unfortunately there is no way to prove ID, it makes no
predictions and there are no experiments you can do to verify it - it
simply requires an act of faith. There are experiments that can, have and
will be done to demonstrate how DNA actually evolved.

Ian
 

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