The WAP always bothers me. The overwhelming probability is that, right
now, neither you nor I should exist.
Certainly the idea of a benevolent God who supervises the health of
every sparrow is hard to accept; He would *not* be a nice person. But
I find it interesting how adamant many people are to not be assiciated
with believers; adamant to the point of taking silly dogmatic
positions to dispel any suspicion that they may be closet Christians.
indeed. And a good read of the bible(s) suggests He isnt very nice either.
Interesting that dogs or horses can mate just once and be practically
guaranteed of delivering a live offspring or three. I think humans
are, evolutionarily, still in the "kluge" stage of development.
did you ever read the article (IEEE spectrum IIRC) about reliability
modelling and humans? the authors basically applied weibull-style stats
to humans, and got interesting results - we look a lot like massively
parallel machines that start with huge numbers of flaws, but kinda work
which makes sense from an evolutionary (AKA compounded kluge) perspective
true, but he's currently messing up the opto thread, and Keith is just
encouraging him. plus most posts seem to be pointless requests for
(often unnecessary) details. Still at least he's polite.
The others are beyond explanation, unless you buy
the "kluge" thing.
We get a lot more environmentalists than bible-bangers, but the
bangers are more polite.
indeed. I once had a T-shirt that said "Jesus nukes gay whales"
although envronmentalists do have one good point: industries (it matters
not which ones) really shouldnt be allowed to make horrid messes without
cleaning them up.
Here in NZ dairy farming is responsible for 50% of our greenhouse gas
emissions (methane from burping ruminants), and almost all of our water
pollution issue, via nutrient and cow-shit runoff. Not much can be done
about the former, but you should hear the farmers scream when it is
suggested they keep the cow shit out of rivers.....almost as loud as
they scream for government assistance whenever floodplains flood.
I do like the environmentalist take on electricity, which looks kinda
No nuke plants - OK, the economics are dubious, and the messes are
astonishingly hard to dispose of.
No coal power plants - hmm, modern coal plants are a lot better than the
old ones. greenies hate the coal mines, but hell, if they clean up the
resultant mess when their done, whats wrong with that.
No hydro plants - getting silly here. they object to drowing perfectly
good valleys (which could house burping ruminants
. its almost a moot
point here, as there are only so many suitable sites, and we have
already used most of them.
No windmills - because they are ugly. this is just plain stupid.
(I'm surprised no-one is mooting coppicing for wood-fired power plants,
which is carbon neutral)
I guess ultimately all zealots are cut from the same cloth