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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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In my attempt to "bullet-proof" the playroom for my autistic grandson
I want to replace all the drawer pulls.

Right now they stick out and he climbs them right up to the ceiling
:-(

In the far past I've seen little metal "cups" that you recess. To
open the drawer you stick your finger into the "cup"

But I'm coming up zero by surfing.

I'm probably not surfing with the right wording.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson
 
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Fred Bloggs

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
In my attempt to "bullet-proof" the playroom for my autistic grandson
I want to replace all the drawer pulls.

Right now they stick out and he climbs them right up to the ceiling
:-(

In the far past I've seen little metal "cups" that you recess. To
open the drawer you stick your finger into the "cup"

But I'm coming up zero by surfing.

I'm probably not surfing with the right wording.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson

recessed drawer pulls
 
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John B

Jan 1, 1970
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In my attempt to "bullet-proof" the playroom for my autistic grandson
I want to replace all the drawer pulls.

Right now they stick out and he climbs them right up to the ceiling
:-(

In the far past I've seen little metal "cups" that you recess. To
open the drawer you stick your finger into the "cup"

But I'm coming up zero by surfing.

I'm probably not surfing with the right wording.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson


A Google on "Recessed Drawer Pull" revealed these:

http://www.binkyswoodworking.com/RecessedHandles.html


and "Flush Ring Pull" revealed these:

http://www.vandykes.com/subcategory/57/

Also this one is useful:


http://www.woodworking-news.com/woodworking/hardware/knobs_pulls_and_han
dles.shtml


HTH
 
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NunYa Bidness

Jan 1, 1970
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In my attempt to "bullet-proof" the playroom for my autistic grandson
I want to replace all the drawer pulls.

Right now they stick out and he climbs them right up to the ceiling
:-(

In the far past I've seen little metal "cups" that you recess. To
open the drawer you stick your finger into the "cup"

But I'm coming up zero by surfing.

I'm probably not surfing with the right wording.

Any ideas?

I couldn't find much either.

One site said they had "furniture" coming.

http://www.daycaremall.com/special_needs.html
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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recessed drawer pulls

What I'm looking for looks like this...

http://www.myknobs.com/sugflushcolrp30.html

EXCEPT it has 1/2 of the "cup" overlaid with a flat piece that you can
get your finger under to pull.

Figure, as shown, is for DOORS where you are pulling sideways. I need
a DRAWER pull.

I need them round because these are existing cabinets that I can't get
into a milling machine without severe disassembly... I want to simply
drill with a wood bit.

...Jim Thompson
 
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Tim Wescott

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
In my attempt to "bullet-proof" the playroom for my autistic grandson
I want to replace all the drawer pulls.

Right now they stick out and he climbs them right up to the ceiling
:-(

In the far past I've seen little metal "cups" that you recess. To
open the drawer you stick your finger into the "cup"

But I'm coming up zero by surfing.

I'm probably not surfing with the right wording.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson

6" of gym mat on the floor, and climbing handholds on the wall (screwed
into the studs with lag screws, of course).

That'll keep him entertained safely after you take away his current
climbing wall.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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A Google on "Recessed Drawer Pull" revealed these:

http://www.binkyswoodworking.com/RecessedHandles.html


and "Flush Ring Pull" revealed these:

http://www.vandykes.com/subcategory/57/

Those requires milling that I can't easily accomplish

That link got me to

http://search.myknobs.com/cgi-bin/m...e=http://www.myknobs.com/nsearch.html&x=0&y=0

I'll peruse those pages and see what I can find.

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson
 
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NunYa Bidness

Jan 1, 1970
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6" of gym mat on the floor, and climbing handholds on the wall (screwed
into the studs with lag screws, of course).

That'll keep him entertained safely after you take away his current
climbing wall.

Good idea. Though that will likely teach him climbing skills to an
even greater degree, however.

Is that going to have a better outcome? ;-]
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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6" of gym mat on the floor, and climbing handholds on the wall (screwed
into the studs with lag screws, of course).

That'll keep him entertained safely after you take away his current
climbing wall.

You have no idea what lengths I've had to go to :-(

When he started climbing I anchored the cabinets to the wall to keep
them from turning over and crushing him.

Where the cabinets met in the corner of the room there was about a 15"
x 15" hollow.

He climbed up the cabinet and jumped down into the hollow.

I had to panic disassemble the cabinets to get him out :-(

So I made "lids" that I screwed down over any openings.

...Jim Thompson
 
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John Fields

Jan 1, 1970
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http://www.myknobs.com/sugflushcolrp30.html

EXCEPT it has 1/2 of the "cup" overlaid with a flat piece that you can
get your finger under to pull.

Figure, as shown, is for DOORS where you are pulling sideways. I need
a DRAWER pull.

I need them round because these are existing cabinets that I can't get
into a milling machine without severe disassembly... I want to simply
drill with a wood bit.
 
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Spehro Pefhany

Jan 1, 1970
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In my attempt to "bullet-proof" the playroom for my autistic grandson
I want to replace all the drawer pulls.

Right now they stick out and he climbs them right up to the ceiling
:-(

In the far past I've seen little metal "cups" that you recess. To
open the drawer you stick your finger into the "cup"

But I'm coming up zero by surfing.

I'm probably not surfing with the right wording.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson

Pulls?

The Lee Valley hardware catalog shows a bunch that might do the trick-
there are also the old-style ones that hinge down and other ones that
protrude somewhat but are curved and smooth. Unfortunately, the
website isn't near as good as the printed catalog, but you can have a
look:

http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=2&cat=3,43520&p=43521



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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Tim Wescott

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
You have no idea what lengths I've had to go to :-(

When he started climbing I anchored the cabinets to the wall to keep
them from turning over and crushing him.

Where the cabinets met in the corner of the room there was about a 15"
x 15" hollow.

He climbed up the cabinet and jumped down into the hollow.

I had to panic disassemble the cabinets to get him out :-(

So I made "lids" that I screwed down over any openings.

...Jim Thompson

I have two kids with moderate Asbergers.

So I have an inkling, but certainly not anything close to a full
appreciation.

What's to keep him from pulling each drawer out a bit more from the one
below and using the newly constructed stairway?

If you _did_ take away his footholds and replaced it with a climbing
wall does he function at a high enough level to hold to an agreement not
to climb, or is the obsession specifically connected to the dresser?

One thing I've learned with my boys is that sometimes you just have to
remove any sharp objects in the way and allow the obsession to run its
course. Trying to shove their little psyches into a box marked "normal"
just damages their psyches and the box, without resolving the problem.

Not that I can really say without being there -- you're the one who has
to actually make things work.
 
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xray

Jan 1, 1970
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I need them round because these are existing cabinets that I can't get
into a milling machine without severe disassembly... I want to simply
drill with a wood bit.

You can cut any shape recess you need on the assembled drawer front with
a router that has a template guide attached and a plywood pattern
clamped onto the drawer front.

Here is an example of what template guides look like.
http://www.majormfg.com/router_template_guides.htm

You cut a pattern into a thin piece of plywood or hardboard. The size
of the opening is bigger than the recess you need by the thickness of
the template guide walls. Clamp this pattern on the front of the drawer.
The overall size of the pattern template needs to be big enough so the
clamps won't block the outside of the router. You then plunge the router
bit to the depth of recess needed and follow the inside of the pattern
to remove the correctly sized opening.

Here's the best example of the process that I was able to find in a
quick search.
http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/tutorial-inlaykit.asp

If your opening happens to need square corners, you finish by hand with
a wood chisel.

This should give you more choices for the hardware.
 
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James T. White

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim Thompson said:
In my attempt to "bullet-proof" the playroom for my autistic grandson
I want to replace all the drawer pulls.

Right now they stick out and he climbs them right up to the ceiling
:-(

In the far past I've seen little metal "cups" that you recess. To
open the drawer you stick your finger into the "cup"

But I'm coming up zero by surfing.

I'm probably not surfing with the right wording.

Any ideas?

Jim,

Try "flush ring pull".

The model 425 and 426 on this web page -
http://www.mvmlocks.com/IH_fp.html has a picture of what I think you are
describing. They didn't have prices but I'll bet other sites will.

Good hunting.
 
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Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
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Hello Jim,
In my attempt to "bullet-proof" the playroom for my autistic grandson
I want to replace all the drawer pulls.

Right now they stick out and he climbs them right up to the ceiling
:-(

I don't know what style your furniture is. There are some pulls that
require the drilling of a larger hole and are then screwed in. Most are
in an 'ocean liner' decor. On ships they are probably meant to prevent
hitting yourself when things get rough, to make sure that even drawer
surfaces are flush. To pull a drawer you have to flip out a ring and
then pull that. Most are way too small to wedge a foot in there for
climbing.

If a standard spade drill doesn't fit there are hole saw adapters you
can buy cheaply for the electric drill (and then drill sloooowly). First
a pilot hole, then the hole saw adapter.

It doesn't show much detail but IIRC they look like this:
http://www.knobs4less.com/rkiflushcolcf5241.html

Says routing in the text but the ones I saw were round in the back.

Then, of course, you'd still have to lock the drawers somehow or your
grandson might pull them out in staggered fashion and use that as a ladder.

Regards, Joerg
 
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Spehro Pefhany

Jan 1, 1970
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Then, of course, you'd still have to lock the drawers somehow or your
grandson might pull them out in staggered fashion and use that as a ladder.

That's even worse than a potential fall, because the chest could
topple on top of him and suffocate him.

Apparently that kills a substantial number of kids-- when our kid was
small I remember some recalls of furniture because it was too easily
toppled.

It even got two at a time in a freak acident in the UK:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnew...d-to-death-by-chest-of-drawers-name_page.html


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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That's even worse than a potential fall, because the chest could
topple on top of him and suffocate him.
[snip]

You missed my post where I said the cabinets are anchored to the
walls.

BTW, The drawers ARE also locked.

...Jim Thompson
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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I have two kids with moderate Asbergers.

So I have an inkling, but certainly not anything close to a full
appreciation.

What's to keep him from pulling each drawer out a bit more from the one
below and using the newly constructed stairway?

If you _did_ take away his footholds and replaced it with a climbing
wall does he function at a high enough level to hold to an agreement not
to climb, or is the obsession specifically connected to the dresser?

One thing I've learned with my boys is that sometimes you just have to
remove any sharp objects in the way and allow the obsession to run its
course. Trying to shove their little psyches into a box marked "normal"
just damages their psyches and the box, without resolving the problem.

Not that I can really say without being there -- you're the one who has
to actually make things work.

I'n VERY tolerant of kids... the only way our sons made it to adult.

My wife would be steamed and I'd be laughing... made for a few tense
moments with the wife ;-)

...Jim Thompson
 
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