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eddie

Jan 1, 1970
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I am trying to program a pic micro 16f877 to desplay the rpm of a
motor on a lcd. I as using a sensor which gives me 4 puls per
revolution of the motor shaft. I am trying to use the capture and
compare property if the pic . can anyone help me . Anyothe method to
do the same procedure is appreciated.
thank yo
 
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Homer J Simpson

Jan 1, 1970
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I am trying to program a pic micro 16f877 to desplay the rpm of a
motor on a lcd. I as using a sensor which gives me 4 puls per
revolution of the motor shaft. I am trying to use the capture and
compare property if the pic . can anyone help me . Anyothe method to
do the same procedure is appreciated.

There are many app notes on the Microchip website.
 
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petrus bitbyter

Jan 1, 1970
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eddie said:
I am trying to program a pic micro 16f877 to desplay the rpm of a
motor on a lcd. I as using a sensor which gives me 4 puls per
revolution of the motor shaft. I am trying to use the capture and
compare property if the pic . can anyone help me . Anyothe method to
do the same procedure is appreciated.
thank yo

Any idea what the pulses you get, will look like? Any idea about minimum and
maximum speed expected? Have the PIC16F877 datasheet already? Read it? (It's
only about 200 pages and you will not need all of them.) I may be wrong but
from your post I got the idea that someone told you to start this project
but that you have hardly an idea how and where to start. You even seem to
have no feeling about what you really want to measure. Who told you to use a
PIC16F877? Nice chip but quite a gun to kill a fly. Advise you'd better
think over the basic idea of rpm and ways to measure it. Then look for how
to use a micro to do so.

petrus bitbyter
 
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eddie

Jan 1, 1970
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Any idea what the pulses you get, will look like? Any idea about minimum and
maximum speed expected? Have the PIC16F877 datasheet already? Read it? (It's
only about 200 pages and you will not need all of them.) I may be wrong but
from your post I got the idea that someone told you to start this project
but that you have hardly an idea how and where to start. You even seem to
have no feeling about what you really want to measure. Who told you to use a
PIC16F877? Nice chip but quite a gun to kill a fly. Advise you'd better
think over the basic idea of rpm and ways to measure it. Then look for how
to use a micro to do so.

petrus bitbyter

As you should know i can only put 5v into the pic and the puls am
getting goes from 0 to 5 volts. its square waveform.Its part of a
ptoject yes...and i choses this 40pin device because i have other
things which i have to impliment on the project.Its a small 12v Dc
motor which am trying to find the Rpm . minimum rpm i want to desplay
on my Lcd is 400 and maximum is 1500. I have got the data sheet and
some other aplication notes from the microchip website and have been
reading it thats why i mentioned about the capture and compare
function of the pic. All the other part of the porject i can
handle ..i need just a little help on makin the pic calculating the
RPM. I dont have much knowlwdge on assembler language so am using C.I
am using Mplab with Hitech compiler.
anyhelp is appreciated
 
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petrus bitbyter

Jan 1, 1970
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eddie said:
As you should know i can only put 5v into the pic and the puls am
getting goes from 0 to 5 volts. its square waveform.Its part of a
ptoject yes...and i choses this 40pin device because i have other
things which i have to impliment on the project.Its a small 12v Dc
motor which am trying to find the Rpm . minimum rpm i want to desplay
on my Lcd is 400 and maximum is 1500. I have got the data sheet and
some other aplication notes from the microchip website and have been
reading it thats why i mentioned about the capture and compare
function of the pic. All the other part of the porject i can
handle ..i need just a little help on makin the pic calculating the
RPM. I dont have much knowlwdge on assembler language so am using C.I
am using Mplab with Hitech compiler.
anyhelp is appreciated

So this clears a lot for me. As "rpm" has the property "events/time" you
have two approaches to measure it. The first is: count events for a fixed
time, the second is: measure time between two events. With your sensor that
provides four pulses/revolution you will have a range of 1600-6000 pulses/
minute.

With the first approach approach mentioned you have to count pulses for a
minute, divide the result by four and display it. You can also count for a
quarter of a minute and display the result without dividing. You can count
for shorter times as well at the cost of accuracy. In this approach you will
need a counter and a timer. Both are available in the chip you want to use.
Set up the counter to count external pulses and the timer for the time you
want to count. Reset the counter and start the timer. When the timer times
out you can stop the counter and read out its content.

For the second approach we need to look at the time between two pulses. So
1600-6000 pulses/minute is 27-100 pulses/s which results in 37.5-10ms/pulse.
A PIC running at 20MHz can measure time in units of 0.2us (which is the
internal clock divided by four). So you set up a counter to count those
units. Which will have values between 187500 and 50000. That first value
does not fit in a 16-bit counter. So we use the prescaler to divide the
internal clock by 4 once more, to count units of 0.8us. (You achive the same
by running the PIC at 5MHz but at the cost of processing power). Having that
counter value you can calculate the rpm, which will not be too difficult
using the Hitech compiler.

Whatever you choose, you will need the PICs datasheet badly. Setting up
timers, counters and the prescaler requires several bits set (or cleared) in
the special function registers. Once you're going to do more things with the
PIC, you will need some kind of interrupt scheme. But you have the right
tools at your hands. You may need some time to learn the best way using
them.

As an aside: Use "I" instead of "i" when you mean yourself. It's the way its
defined in English.

petrus bitbyter
 
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eddie

Jan 1, 1970
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So this clears a lot for me. As "rpm" has the property "events/time" you
have two approaches to measure it. The first is: count events for a fixed
time, the second is: measure time between two events. With your sensor that
provides four pulses/revolution you will have a range of 1600-6000 pulses/
minute.

With the first approach approach mentioned you have to count pulses for a
minute, divide the result by four and display it. You can also count for a
quarter of a minute and display the result without dividing. You can count
for shorter times as well at the cost of accuracy. In this approach you will
need a counter and a timer. Both are available in the chip you want to use.
Set up the counter to count external pulses and the timer for the time you
want to count. Reset the counter and start the timer. When the timer times
out you can stop the counter and read out its content.

For the second approach we need to look at the time between two pulses. So
1600-6000 pulses/minute is 27-100 pulses/s which results in 37.5-10ms/pulse.
A PIC running at 20MHz can measure time in units of 0.2us (which is the
internal clock divided by four). So you set up a counter to count those
units. Which will have values between 187500 and 50000. That first value
does not fit in a 16-bit counter. So we use the prescaler to divide the
internal clock by 4 once more, to count units of 0.8us. (You achive the same
by running the PIC at 5MHz but at the cost of processing power). Having that
counter value you can calculate the rpm, which will not be too difficult
using the Hitech compiler.

Whatever you choose, you will need the PICs datasheet badly. Setting up
timers, counters and the prescaler requires several bits set (or cleared) in
the special function registers. Once you're going to do more things with the
PIC, you will need some kind of interrupt scheme. But you have the right
tools at your hands. You may need some time to learn the best way using
them.

As an aside: Use "I" instead of "i" when you mean yourself. It's the way its
defined in English.

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thankxx......i will definatly look in to that
 
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