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Green Xenon [Radium]

Jan 1, 1970
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Richard said:
My reply should have read:


As I told you before, I used your his "Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:04:03 -0700"
post and Google to come up with 10 possible sources for information. A
*POLITE COURTEOUS* email received an informative response in 2 days.
^^^^^

My email address is glucegen1b_at_excite_dot_com

You must have sent mail to glucegen1_at_excite_dot_com which I don't use.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. Please resend the email to
glucegen1b_at_excite_dot_com
 
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Green Xenon [Radium]

Jan 1, 1970
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I can't. I am too interested in what the EDTN acronym stands for. Since,
despite my hard work, I haven't found that out, I am getting a bit
upset. I am desperate and hence my interest turns into frustration. I
then fantasize about going after those who formed the EDTN acronyms and
forcing them -- via threats of skin-flaming torture -- to tell me what
EDTN means, to provide me with all technical information regarding EDTN,
and to give me all the existing Swiss EDTN phone numbers so I can dial
them and listen to those lovely tones.
 
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John Fields

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:21:20 -0800, "Green Xenon [Radium]"
Instead, how about a clue?

Nobody likes you. Go away.

I can't. I am too interested in what the EDTN acronym stands for. Since,
despite my hard work, I haven't found that out, I am getting a bit
upset. I am desperate and hence my interest turns into frustration. I
then fantasize about going after those who formed the EDTN acronyms and
forcing them -- via threats of skin-flaming torture -- to tell me what
EDTN means, to provide me with all technical information regarding EDTN,
and to give me all the existing Swiss EDTN phone numbers so I can dial
them and listen to those lovely tones.
 
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Don Bowey

Jan 1, 1970
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Please at least give me some
hints!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!

I did.
 
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Jerry Avins

Jan 1, 1970
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Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:

...
I can't. I am too interested in what the EDTN acronym stands for. Since,
despite my hard work, I haven't found that out, I am getting a bit
upset. I am desperate and hence my interest turns into frustration. I
then fantasize about going after those who formed the EDTN acronyms and
forcing them -- via threats of skin-flaming torture -- to tell me what
EDTN means, to provide me with all technical information regarding EDTN,
and to give me all the existing Swiss EDTN phone numbers so I can dial
them and listen to those lovely tones.

When a dog habitually pisses on your shoe to get attention, you quickly
learn to kick it when it comes near. Buzz off.

Jerry
 
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Jeff Liebermann

Jan 1, 1970
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Green Xenon said:
Jeff said:
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <[email protected]> hath wroth:

I have no idea where you got EDTN out of that. It might mean European
Deaf Telephone Network, but I'm guessing.

Quotes from http://www.teletec.co.uk/minicoms/uniphone.php :

"Baudot, CCITT and EDTN codes"

Here!

EDT is a data protocol that is built on top of some wire line
transmission protocol. They goofed and mean't EDT, not EDTN. It
should be obvious from lack of references that EDTN is non-existent.

As for listening to the tones, it would be the same at V.21 at
110baud. Yawn....

Method - Main Characteristics - Used in
Minitel - V.23 modem. 1200/75 bit/s, videotex protocol- France
EDT - V.21 110 bit/s one channel, carrier only while sending -
Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Spain, Malta
Nordic V.21 - V.21 300 bit/s full duplex, 7 bit, even parity, one
stop bit - Sweden, Norway, Finland
British V.21 - V.21 300 bit/s full duplex - UK
DTMF - Combination of tone dialling codes into characters - Denmark,
Holland
Baudot or TDD - FSK method with 45.45 bits/s and 1400/1800 Hz - USA,
Ireland, Iceland and partly UK
Bell - 300 bit/s full duplex - USA
http://speech.di.uoa.gr/hestia/books/telecomm/chap4-1.html

Now, will you please go away?
 
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Green Xenon [Radium]

Jan 1, 1970
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Jeff said:
Jeff Liebermann wrote:

"Green Xenon [Radium]" <[email protected]> hath wroth:

I have no idea where you got EDTN out of that. It might mean European
Deaf Telephone Network, but I'm guessing.

Quotes from http://www.teletec.co.uk/minicoms/uniphone.php :

"Baudot, CCITT and EDTN codes"

Here!
EDT is a data protocol that is built on top of some wire line
transmission protocol. They goofed and mean't EDT, not EDTN. It
should be obvious from lack of references that EDTN is non-existent.

How can you be so sure that they goofed? I hope you're right, but I fear
not. This fear turns to extreme anger when confirmed that EDTN does
exist [and is significantly different from EDT] but people --
particularly those who formed the EDTN acronym and designed that
technology -- simply refuse to talk about it. Or, I am the only one
interested in EDTN. Either way, I get equally angry and desperate.
As for listening to the tones, it would be the same at V.21 at
110baud. Yawn....

You are assuming EDTN is actually EDT. I hope your assumptions are true,
that way I can stop asking questions. However, I fear [and strongly so]
that you are incorrect.
Method - Main Characteristics - Used in
Minitel - V.23 modem. 1200/75 bit/s, videotex protocol- France
EDT - V.21 110 bit/s one channel, carrier only while sending -
Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Spain, Malta
Nordic V.21 - V.21 300 bit/s full duplex, 7 bit, even parity, one
stop bit - Sweden, Norway, Finland
British V.21 - V.21 300 bit/s full duplex - UK
DTMF - Combination of tone dialling codes into characters - Denmark,
Holland
Baudot or TDD - FSK method with 45.45 bits/s and 1400/1800 Hz - USA,
Ireland, Iceland and partly UK
Bell - 300 bit/s full duplex - USA
http://speech.di.uoa.gr/hestia/books/telecomm/chap4-1.html

Thanks, but I already know all of the above. I've also visited that
webpage more than a gazillion times.
 
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Richard Dobson

Jan 1, 1970
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Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
...
EDT is a data protocol that is built on top of some wire line
transmission protocol. They goofed and mean't EDT, not EDTN. It
should be obvious from lack of references that EDTN is non-existent.


How can you be so sure that they goofed? I hope you're right, but I fear
not. This fear turns to extreme anger when confirmed that EDTN does
exist [and is significantly different from EDT] but people --
particularly those who formed the EDTN acronym and designed that
technology -- simply refuse to talk about it. Or, I am the only one
interested in EDTN. Either way, I get equally angry and desperate.
As for listening to the tones, it would be the same at V.21 at
110baud. Yawn....


You are assuming EDTN is actually EDT. I hope your assumptions are true,
that way I can stop asking questions. However, I fear [and strongly so]
that you are incorrect.


He's not assuming, he's telling you. There are no conspiracies with
respect to telephony protocols! If there were, the internet woudl be
awash of refernces to it. It is impossible to deal with you if you
reject all responses out of "fear" - unless of course you actually want
to summon up those neuroses for yourself, regardless of the evidence; in
which case there relaly is no point in carrying on. This is a fear-free
zone.

In any case cyberspace is so chockablock with all your enquiries about
"EDTN" that they are the only things that show up on a search now! You
have succeeded in buring the very leaf you were interested in in a
forest of your own devising.

And if you do not trust replies here - well that is another reason for
not posting questions!

Richard Dobson
 
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John Fields

Jan 1, 1970
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Thanks, but I already know all of the above. I've also visited that
webpage more than a gazillion times.
 
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Green Xenon [Radium]

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
Then it would seem that any sensible person who had done the same
would realize that he doesn't have the capability of understanding
the material and move on, instead of blaming everyone else for his
frustration.

I am capable of understanding the material, if only the info about EDTN
was provided to me.
 
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Green Xenon [Radium]

Jan 1, 1970
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Richard said:
In any case cyberspace is so chockablock with all your enquiries about
"EDTN" that they are the only things that show up on a search now!
You
have succeeded in buring the very leaf you were interested in in a
forest of your own devising.

That's the EDTN personnels' faults for not making new web pages and
describing what EDTN stands for. Yeah, I am aware that the only thing --
apart from http://www.teletec.co.uk/minicoms/uniphone.php -- that show
up are my posts. This is very annoying and frustrating for me. I want to
burn all EDTN personnel alive with oxyacetylene flames until their last
screams. I want them to feel the suffering they've caused me by not
telling me what EDTN stands for, not giving me technical details about
EDTN, and not providing me with Swiss EDTN phone numbers.

Those who do wrong deserve punishment. By being silent about EDTN, the
personnel of EDTN and perpetrating an immoral act and hence deserve to
be punished as brutally as possible. Burn them.

Those who made the EDTN acronym are sick scum. Anyone who is part of the
scumgang who made that acronym deserves to be punished. He/she should be
put through the following scenario on a hot and dry day -- in which the
sky has few high white clouds [no grey or low clouds] scattered around
-- at about 11:00 AM of that day:

1. All his/her voluntary muscles [and their fibers] -- excluding
breathing muscles but including speech muscles -- should be relaxed to a
state of total paralysis [no amount of stimulation (whether neural or
direct electric stimulation of the muscle fibers) should be able to
cause these muscles to contract or "un-relax"]. This will make him/her
unable to move or vocalize.

2. While his/her breathing muscles should not be paralyzed, his/her
voluntary control of them should be totally lost [this means that his/
her autonomic nervous system will have complete control over his/her
respiration].

3. The motor nerves supplying his/her voluntary muscles -- including
speech muscles but excluding breathing muscles -- should also be relaxed
into total paralysis [these motor nerves should be hyper-polarized] and
unable to "un-relax".

4. His/her entire autonomic nervous system [and their effectors],
his/her heart's natural pacemaker, his/her tear-production, his/her
natural pain-relieving -- and stress-relieving -- mechanisms, smooth
muscles [including those in the respiratory system], endocrine,
hormonal, inflammatory, lysosomal, and immune systems should remain
totally unresponsive to the infliction of even the most excruciating
pain, totally unresponsive to any type of injury [regardless of
severity], and totally unresponsive to any emotion or psychological
state [regardless of intensity].

5. The parts of his/her brain that deal exclusively with movement,
contraction/relaxation of all voluntary muscles [including speech
muscles but excluding breathing] muscles should also be relaxed into a
state of hyperpolarization.

6. The parts of his/her brain that deal solely with voluntary -- but not
involuntary -- control of breathing should also be relaxed into
hyperpolarization.

7. All pain reflexes -- somatic and visceral -- should be totally paralyzed.

8. All psychological protective mechanisms should be completely
disabled.* [See notes on psychological protective mechanisms]

9. All mechanisms that decrease consciousness as a result of pain should
be disabled. Here is an example of that mechanism:

Quote from http://www.internetarmory.com/self_defense.htm :

"It is speculated that various organs of the body can send pain impulses
to the brain stem indicating a severe or overwhelming bodily injury. The
reticular activating system responds by producing a functional "shut
down", which results in loss of consciousness within a second or two."

Once again this mechanism should be completely disabled.

10. Any mechanisms that specifically allow emotions, will, or
psychological states to alter any perceptions -- including pain
perception -- should be completely disabled.

11. All parts of his/her body contain VRL-1 nerve-endings -- in which
those VRL-1 functions as thermal pain receptors -- should be scorched
with smokeless, charless, sootless, ashless, emberless, non-toxic,
clean, non-polluting, orangish-yellow oxyacetylene flames until his/ her
body is completely dehydrated from the flame's heat.** [See notes on
VRL-1 nerves]

The flame burn injuries will cause severe dehydration and loss of blood
volume by heating up the skin's water and causing it to evaporate. Shock
sets in as the blood continues to thicken. After 2 immeasurably-long
hellish hours the scumslime who is involved in keeping EDTN a secret
will most likely die. The sick f--k will be in SO much pain and distress
yet totally unable to express any hint of it; not even a single tear
drop will be shed from his/her eyes. Such cold-hearts deserve such
fates. It's called "eye for an eye."

*Psychological protective mechanisms:

http://jnnp.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/71/suppl_1/i18 quotes :

"In psychogenic coma the eyelids are kept firmly shut and are resistant
to opening. Oculocephalic responses are unpredictable though nystamus is
evident on caloric testing. Motor tone is normal or inconsistent and
limb reflexes retained. Other physical signs based on reflex self
protection have been used in this syndrome though their validity has not
been formally assessed. The EEG shows awake rhythms."

Quotes from
http://www.ttmed.com/dementia/text_...D_Book=1669&id_chapter=11710&id_subtext=11723
:

"Pseudocoma, also known as psychogenic unresponsiveness or feigned coma,
is difficult to diagnose and should be based on a diagnosis of exclusion
because, if true coma is overlooked, the result could be disastrous.
Therefore, all patients with coma suspected of being psychogenic in
origin must undergo thorough evaluation until the diagnosis is clearly
established. A conversion reaction and malingering are the most common
causes of pseudocoma."

"It is important to remember that none of the historical data absolutely
include or exclude the possibility of pseudocoma. However, there are
some clinical findings suggestive of psychogenic origin, such as
conditions precipitated by stress. Pseudocoma usually begins or persists
when an observer is present. Patients with pseudocoma slump to the floor
and protect themselves from hitting their heads and other body parts."

"During examination, patients with pseudocoma usually make
semipurposeful avoiding movements. They have normal pupils, corneal
reflexes and plantar reflexes. They may keep their eyes firmly shut and
resist the opening of the eye by examiners. Because eyelid tone cannot
be changed at will, in patients with true coma passive eyelid opening is
easy and is followed by slow eyelid closure. Blinking also increases in
feigned coma, but decreases in true coma. Passive eye opening in a
sleeping or an actually comatose person results in mydriasis if the
pupillary reflex mechanisms are intact. Conversely, opening the eyes of
a person who is awake produces miosis. The eyes roll up when the lids
are raised, known as Bell's phenomenon as mentioned before, in patients
with psychogenic pseudocoma, while the eyes remain in the neutral
position in patients with real coma. Roving eye movements cannot be
imitated and their presence indicates true coma. In contrast, voluntary
saccadic eye movements seen in feigned coma are usually faster and
briskly with a well-defined endpoint. Pseudocoma patients may respond
with purposeful movement to painful stimulation and avoid unpleasant
stimuli such as a nasal tickle. The presence of nystagmus during cold
caloric testing suggests that coma is either feigned or hysterical,
because nystagmus requires an intact cerebral cortex and brainstem.
Additionally, cold water caloric stimulation is noxious and can induce
nausea and vomiting, or awakening in patients with psychogenic coma."

"Similarly to patients with pseudoparalysis, the hands of patients with
pseudocoma do not often hit their face when dropped. However, the
diagnostic validity of this kind of self-protection sign has not been
evaluated convincingly. Furthermore, unethical provocative maneuvers,
such as dropping alcohol in the nostrils or olfactory stimulation using
ammonium, should not be used to induce responsiveness in patients deemed
to be in feigned coma."

Quotes from
http://www.memorylossonline.com/glossary/psychogenicamnesia.html :

"Psychogenic amnesia (also called functional amnesia) is a form of
amnesia which occurs in otherwise healthy people -- i.e., it is not the
result of a brain injury. It involves loss of important personal
information. Another term for this condition is functional amnesia."

"In one form of psychogenic amnesia, called fugue state, individuals may
forget not only their pasts but their very identities. Despite the many
Hollywood movies depicting this phenomenon, fugue state is extremely
rare in real life. Fugue state normally resolves with time, particularly
with the help of therapy."

"A more common form of psychogenic amnesia is dissociative amnesia. In
this state, an individual may experience memory loss which is restricted
to a particular period of time, such as the duration of a violent crime.
This memory loss is too extensive to be explained by ordinary
forgetting, and instead may reflect the fact that the information is too
stressful or traumatic to be remembered. Dissociative amnesia is a
psychological phenomenon, rather than a physiological one, and may often
be resolved with the help of therapy."

More on psychogenic blackouts [escapes] which must be prevented:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychogenic_amnesia

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3225/is_n1_v41/ai_8773339

http://www.psych.uic.edu/education/courses/behav_science2000/reed/behavscilimbic03132000/sld023.htm

**VRL-1 nerves:
http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/P/Pain.html

TRPV2 (also called VRL-1) responds to temperatures above 52 Celsius.
"Painfully hot"

VR-1 responds to capsaicin. VRL-1 does NOT. There is a world of difference.

VRL-1 responds only to "painfully hot"

VR-1 responds to hot, chili, and acids.

Once again, there is a BIG difference between VR-1 and VRL-1. Read the
quotes from
http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/P/Pain.html :

"TRPV1 (also known as VR1) = Hot (>43 Celsius). Also activated by
capsaicin, the active ingredient of hot chili peppers, by camphor, and
by acids (protons)."

"TRPV2 (also called VRL-1) = Painfully hot (>52 Celsius)"

http://www.islandnet.com/~yesmag/brain/brainbump.php?id=95

"VR1 for hot, and VRL1 for super hot."

In the skin, VRL-1 serves as a thermal nociceptor. However in the
viscera, lungs and other internal organs, VRL-1 has a totally different
purpose.

So dermal VRL1-excitation is significantly more painful than VR1
excitation. This is why thermal burns are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much more
agonizing than acid-burns of the same depth. This is also why
"temperature hot" is a lot more algogenic than "chili hot". All cuz of
those nasty VRL-1s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, these EDTN-concealing bullies deserve to roast alive over a
cheese-colored fire.

A flaming suit [device that aims flames at the bully's skin] should be
custom-built to fit the size and shape of the bully after he/she has
gone through the steps 1-10, I described. The flame suit fits the entire
body of the bully. Right after steps 1-10, the bully is stripped
completely naked -- to prevent smoke-inhalation from ignited clothing.
Only then is he/she put into the flame suit. Then the flaming starts and
his/her skin turns to white blistering foam, even if the bully is
dark-skinned. In fact, the burn wounds are far more apparent in a
dark-skinned individual because his/her skin is mostly dark while the
burn wounds are white due to thermal denaturation of the skin's
pigments. The flames are made by smoothly igniting oxyacetylene and then
feeding it the through the flame suit. Sodium ions are mixed with the
oxyacetylene to give the flames a terrifying
orangish-yellow--reddish-pink color.

Once the body is completely dehydrated, the flames are turned off, and
the bullying-scumfoam is left to die under the afternoon sun outdoors.
Well, actually, all of this occurs outdoors in the type of weather I
described.

The bully will be in excruciating pain and will want to die. In about
120 minutes, his/her wish will surely be answered, as dehydration
reaches fatal extents. The area in which he/she suffers in dies should
be a sandy open area. So right after the fire, put him/her in the dirty
dusty sand.

The color of the flame, and the weather will only add to the horror of
the burn injuries. All other EDTN-concealers should be made to watch as
this bully dies his/her slow, painful, yet sure death before it's their
turn to be punished.

Not to mention, the burn wounds look like white foam. This
characteristic appearance is terrifying and sickening to most viewers.
However, these wounds still not nearly as scary as the color and shape
of the flames.

Creative Technology Ltd deserves the same punishment for not telling me
about their patches used on “Creative Music Synth” -- the chip-based FM
synth present in the SB16 ISA card.
 
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John Fields

Jan 1, 1970
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I am capable of understanding the material, if only the info about EDTN
was provided to me.

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Aww, poor baby...

It should be provided to you with no effort on your part other than
asking for it instead of you taking the responsibility for ferreting
it out for yourself?

Why?
 
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Erik de Castro Lopo

Jan 1, 1970
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Green Xenon [Radium] babbled like a lunatic:

<snip reason="nothing of any importance or interest" />

Radium, you are a raving lunatic.

Please do *NOT* post to this newsgroup until you have taken you
medication and left time for that medication to take effect.
 
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Don Bowey

Jan 1, 1970
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That's the EDTN personnels' faults for not making new web pages and
describing what EDTN stands for. Yeah, I am aware that the only thing --
apart from http://www.teletec.co.uk/minicoms/uniphone.php -- that show
up are my posts. This is very annoying and frustrating for me. I want to
burn all EDTN personnel alive with oxyacetylene flames until their last
screams. I want them to feel the suffering they've caused me by not
telling me what EDTN stands for, not giving me technical details about
EDTN, and not providing me with Swiss EDTN phone numbers.

(snip the extensive rant)

Good job! That was the most excessive tantrum I've ever encountered.

From what you've said, there is, clearly, no point in telling you anything,
because you aren't prepared to accept the truth when it's given to you. And
it HAS been given to you. Unfortunately.

You need to stop your excessive behavior, and focus on actually studying
what you read. Stop looking for the answers you want, and try to understand
what is presented in your searches. Keep an open mind, and what you need to
know will become clear.

If you continue to ask others for answers, you will never learn to learn.

Now, knock of the troll crap and grow-up.
 
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Richard Dobson

Jan 1, 1970
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Green said:
That's the EDTN personnels' faults for not making new web pages and
describing what EDTN stands for.
[stream of drivel deleted]

There ~are~ no "EDTN personnel". It's a ~typo~. It doesn't stand for
anything other than a standard shorthand for 'edition'. Have you never
seen such a thing before? And in any case it is nobody's ~duty~ to give
you or anyone any information at all, about anything, unless there is
actually some legal imperative to do so. There in none in this case. So
if someone is generous enough to give you information, receive it with
grace and gratitude, or else move on. Either way, move on. All you are
doing with such rants is ensure nobody will ever volunteer information
to you at all, as they see what the result will be!


Richard Dobson
 
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BobF

Jan 1, 1970
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Green Xenon said:
I am capable of understanding the material, if only the info about EDTN
was provided to me.

Go to a book store. Look in Newton's Telecom Dictionary. If it's not
listed, it's not important.
 
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Green Xenon [Radium]

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
---
Aww, poor baby...

It should be provided to you with no effort on your part other than
asking for it instead of you taking the responsibility for ferreting
it out for yourself?

Why?

What you're expecting me to do is equivalent to you being expected to
fly without any equipment other than your body. That's why.
 
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Jeff Liebermann

Jan 1, 1970
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How can you be so sure that they goofed?

I'm only 86.345% certain that they goofed. This is based upon the
observation that the few relevent references to EDTN have been nothing
more than quotes of previous references to EDTN and that none of these
bother to expand on the acronym. If Google can't find it, then it
doesn't exist.
I hope you're right, but I fear not.

I fear things other than a "not", whatever that may be. Why do you
fear a "not"? Does it bite?
This fear turns to extreme anger when confirmed that EDTN does
exist [and is significantly different from EDT] but people --
particularly those who formed the EDTN acronym and designed that
technology -- simply refuse to talk about it. Or, I am the only one
interested in EDTN. Either way, I get equally angry and desperate.

Don't worry. You'll find other things to get angry about. If you
seek frustration, I suggest a career in any available bureaucracy.
With your attitude and methodoly, I'm sure you won't rise very
quickly, which is guaranteed to create the anger you seek. Please
note that your pension and retirement plan will be revoked if you
attempt to do something drastic about your anger.
You are assuming EDTN is actually EDT.

Assumption, the mother of all screwups. However, in this case, the
lack of substantiating evidence requires a leap of faith, also known
as an assumption. If Google can't find it, then it doesn't exist.
I hope your assumptions are true,
that way I can stop asking questions.

If I didn't suspect that you would leave and go away satisfied that
there are no EDTN tones, I would never have bothered to answer. If
Google can't find it, then it doesn't exist.
However, I fear [and strongly so]
that you are incorrect.

First, you fear a "not". Now, you're afraid of a "strongly so".
Thanks, but I already know all of the above. I've also visited that
webpage more than a gazillion times.

One more time won't hurt, much.

Incidentally, someone mentioned Newton's Telecom Dictionary.
<http://www.harrynewton.com>
That's probably a good idea. $27 on Amazon. However, make sure you
get a fairly current edition. About 500 new terms get added with each
edition. Mine ancient edition is in my palatial office, so I can't
lookup EDT and EDTN.
 
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Green Xenon [Radium]

Jan 1, 1970
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Richard said:
Green said:
That's the EDTN personnels' faults for not making new web pages and
describing what EDTN stands for.

[stream of drivel deleted]

There ~are~ no "EDTN personnel". It's a ~typo~. It doesn't stand for
anything other than a standard shorthand for 'edition'. Have you never
seen such a thing before?

Yes. You're talking about edtn as an abbrreviation, in which it stands
for edition. I am talking about the acronym EDTN. There is a world of
difference. Please consider that.

Quotes from http://www.teletec.co.uk/minicoms/uniphone.php :

"Baudot, CCITT and EDTN codes"

Remember that.

Does the term "edition codes" makes sense at all? Didn't think so.

"Baudot code" makes sense.

"CCITT code" makes sense.

"Edition codes" does not make sense. So there you go, EDTN does not
stand for 'edition' in relation to telephony.

http://www.connevans.com/products/textphone_comparison.pdf

"Baudot, CCITT. and EDTN."

More EDTN stuff:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...gle+-glucegen+-archive+-glucegen1&btnG=Search

Much googling but nothing related to what the EDTN acronym stands for in
terms of textphones and telephones.

And in any case it is nobody's ~duty~ to give
you or anyone any information at all, about anything, unless there is
actually some legal imperative to do so. There in none in this case. So
if someone is generous enough to give you information, receive it with
grace and gratitude, or else move on. Either way, move on. All you are
doing with such rants is ensure nobody will ever volunteer information
to you at all, as they see what the result will be!

Well, those who are cold-hearted deserve to have their coldnesses
cancelled by the extreme heat of cheddar-cheese-colored oxyacetylene
flames slowly, softly, and closely tickling their skins into dehydrated
white foam.
 
D

Don Bowey

Jan 1, 1970
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What you're expecting me to do is equivalent to you being expected to
fly without any equipment other than your body. That's why.


Nonsense. You're lazy and you imagine off-the-wall impediments keeping you
from doing things.
 
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