Login Join Maker Pro
Or sign in with

# Please Help a NEWBIE - Question about cellular backups

P

#### pindazed

Jan 1, 1970
0
I was wanting to know if I have any other option other than installing a
cellular backup to my alarm in case my phone lines are cut? I had been told
that a piece of equipment exists that would allow a neighbors phone line to
call out if yours get cut. The way I was told that it works is with a
wireless transmitter and receiver. Any help is appreciated.

Randy

M

#### mikey

Jan 1, 1970
0
That's quite straight-forward with the co-operation of your neighbour and a
couple of transmitters and slave receivers. Ask the folks who put in your
alarms, you'll need their help or documentation to make it work. If your
dealer balks, I can help, drop me a line [email protected]

C

#### Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
0
yah buddy systems. I had a few online, but the problem is when the buddy
moves away or you become not buddies anymore. Also, if his line goes down
then your backup is down too.

cellumetry is the way to go...without your buddy.

|I was wanting to know if I have any other option other than installing a
| cellular backup to my alarm in case my phone lines are cut? I had been
told
| that a piece of equipment exists that would allow a neighbors phone line
to
| call out if yours get cut. The way I was told that it works is with a
| wireless transmitter and receiver. Any help is appreciated.
|
| Randy
|
|

P

#### pindazed

Jan 1, 1970
0
Any idea where I can buy a buddy system?

Randy

W

#### Warren

Jan 1, 1970
0
I've had success using a Motorola 3 watt analog bag or car phone.
Connect a S1936 interface between the phone and handset to provide a
RJ11 type connector. Plug the alarm system in and the cell phone will
provide a standard phone line type connection.

C

#### Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
0
Sorry no...has to be compatible with both alarm systems. We used to make our
own.

Ends up being cheaper and less confusing to use cellular.

| Any idea where I can buy a buddy system?
|
| Randy
|
| | > yah buddy systems. I had a few online, but the problem is when the buddy
| > moves away or you become not buddies anymore. Also, if his line goes
down
| > then your backup is down too.
| >
| > cellumetry is the way to go...without your buddy.
| >
| >
| > | > |I was wanting to know if I have any other option other than installing
a
| > | cellular backup to my alarm in case my phone lines are cut? I had been
| > told
| > | that a piece of equipment exists that would allow a neighbors phone
line
| > to
| > | call out if yours get cut. The way I was told that it works is with a
| > | wireless transmitter and receiver. Any help is appreciated.
| > |
| > | Randy
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

S

#### Shaun Eli

Jan 1, 1970
0
Verizon used to sell a service that sent them a message if your phone
service went out-- presumably they could be told to notify your alarm
company which could notify the police. That was one option when I got
my alarm installed ten years ago.

My alarm company offers cellular back-up for around $20/month additional. They also offer radio backup for the same price. I think that radio makes more sense... M #### Mark Leuck Jan 1, 1970 0 Shaun Eli said: Verizon used to sell a service that sent them a message if your phone service went out-- presumably they could be told to notify your alarm company which could notify the police. That was one option when I got my alarm installed ten years ago. My alarm company offers cellular back-up for around$20/month
additional. They also offer radio backup for the same price. I think
that radio makes more sense...

Cellular IS radio, but don't tell people from Belgium that

C

#### Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
0
You're wrong, Belgian cellphones have long extension cords they plug in to
various orifices...ahem.

|
| | > Verizon used to sell a service that sent them a message if your phone
| > service went out-- presumably they could be told to notify your alarm
| > company which could notify the police. That was one option when I got
| > my alarm installed ten years ago.
| >
| > My alarm company offers cellular back-up for around \$20/month
| > additional. They also offer radio backup for the same price. I think
| > that radio makes more sense...
|
| Cellular IS radio, but don't tell people from Belgium that
|
|

J

#### Joe @ AZ Security Control

Jan 1, 1970
0
Cellular IS radio, until it get's to the cellular radio service
provider, from there, most will Dial-In or IP-In to the Monitoring
Center which can be considered a point-of-failure. Some Dealers may
have a local, private, radio network like AES IntelliNet which is radio
all-the-way. We, the Monitoring Center provide access to our AES
IntelliNet Radio network to all of our dealers in the Phoenix area.
Signals from an AlarmNet Radio travels to the Central Station
all-the-way via Radio nationwide, provided the central station has an
alarmnet-i receiver with the mobitex radio backup.

S

#### Shaun Eli

Jan 1, 1970
0
I know that cellular phones are radios. My provider uses a separate
radio system so that in the event that cell lines are all clogged
(which happens, although not all that often anymore around here) the
company still gets the signal.

C

#### Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
0
cellular doesn't transmit on the talking channel (usually) so they don't get
clogged.

|I know that cellular phones are radios. My provider uses a separate
| radio system so that in the event that cell lines are all clogged
| (which happens, although not all that often anymore around here) the
| company still gets the signal.
|
|

M

#### Mark Leuck

Jan 1, 1970
0
Crash Gordon said:
cellular doesn't transmit on the talking channel (usually) so they don't get
clogged.

Since the side channels have such limited bandwith I would think they would
"clog" long before the talk channel

C

#### Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
0
yah but isn't the side channel the billing data?? if so you'd think those
packets would never get clogged

but I'd have to defer to our resident rfi goober paulie for the real skinny
on this.

|
| | > cellular doesn't transmit on the talking channel (usually) so they don't
| get
| > clogged.
|
| Since the side channels have such limited bandwith I would think they
would
| "clog" long before the talk channel
|
|

Replies
21
Views
18K
Replies
12
Views
717
Replies
6
Views
588
Replies
39
Views
4K
Replies
21
Views
2K