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post or request any electronic or microcontroller book

you can request from me for any book you want but about electronics
and microcontroller and you will found it at my site .
the strange that i found every monday its make one of its checkout
book afree book for monday only then make it checkout books so i hope
and advice all microcontroller programmer to get the weekly free book
or prize
thanks to all group
engineers
http://ourmicro.com
 
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JeffM

Jan 1, 1970
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was: post or request any electronic or microcontroller book

[email protected] gmail.com said:
[...]get the weekly free book or prize[...]

Your site should stand on its own without gimmicks.
http://groups.google.com/groups/sea...TmNvdf4vXUQOco4cocwWvDVg2RHsu8f1bCg&scoring=d

It won't do that until you make it A LOT LESS CRAPPY.

1) Stop using Microsoft Word to write HTML pages
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://ourmicro.com/
and get yourself a REAL HTML Editor
http://216.239.63.104/search?q=cach...s.conformant+zz+zz+qq+best-authoring-platform
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:...bug-fix-release-*-*+will.*.reformat.your.code

2) Use *Validation Tools* to clean up the code you generate
http://validator.w3.org/
--ESPECIALLY the pseudo-HTML you have done with M$ Word.
http://www.google.com/search?q=cach...-wonders+HTML-*-from-Microsoft-Word-*&strip=1

3) Spend some time here
http://www.google.com/search?q=Learn-usability-and-good-Web-design-by-looking-at-bad-Web-design
and learn how NOT to make a Web page.

Start by getting rid of the ANNOYING flashy crap.
 
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Anthony Fremont

Jan 1, 1970
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JeffM wrote some unnecessarily mean stuff:
<snipped>
I don't see anything blinking, so I guess it looks like he got rid of "the
annoying flashy crap" as you so tactfully put it. Though it could still use
some layout work, I think the site is decent enough, it's certainly better
than allot of them out there. Don't you think that you could at least give
the guy a break since he's trying to give back to the world? Constructive
criticism is one thing, but man you treated him like some nigerian spammer.
Where is the spam?....some Google ads?...a few books for what looks like
very low prices?.....
http://www.ourmicro.com
 
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Esther & Fester Bestertester

Jan 1, 1970
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What is blinking?

Most headers:
Books Projects Datasheets Compilers Softwares Learn

The whole left margin text

Most anything in blue font is flashing (except the ad text). Still.
 
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Anthony Fremont

Jan 1, 1970
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Esther said:
Most headers:
Books Projects Datasheets Compilers Softwares Learn

The whole left margin text

Most anything in blue font is flashing (except the ad text). Still.

OK, I installed FireFox and I now see it, that does suck. I looked at the
page source and I don't see any reason for it to blink like that though, but
I'm certainly no HTML expert. The OP seems to have used FrontPage (not
Word) to create it. It's not like it's personally his fault that M$ can't
generate proper HTML.
 
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Donald

Jan 1, 1970
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Anthony said:
JeffM wrote some unnecessarily mean stuff:
<snipped>
I don't see anything blinking, so I guess it looks like he got rid of "the
annoying flashy crap" as you so tactfully put it. Though it could still use
some layout work, I think the site is decent enough, it's certainly better
than allot of them out there. Don't you think that you could at least give
the guy a break since he's trying to give back to the world? Constructive
criticism is one thing, but man you treated him like some nigerian spammer.
Where is the spam?....some Google ads?...a few books for what looks like
very low prices?.....
http://www.ourmicro.com
I just tried your site.

Please stop the blinky stuff.

You have proven that you can do it, now stop.

donald
 
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Spehro Pefhany

Jan 1, 1970
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OK, I installed FireFox and I now see it, that does suck. I looked at the
page source and I don't see any reason for it to blink like that though, but
I'm certainly no HTML expert. The OP seems to have used FrontPage (not
Word) to create it. It's not like it's personally his fault that M$ can't
generate proper HTML.

Don't overlook the possibility (however remote it might seem) that it
might be an intentional thing on the part of M$


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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Donald

Jan 1, 1970
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Spehro said:
Don't overlook the possibility (however remote it might seem) that it
might be an intentional thing on the part of M$


No matter where it comes from, the page sucks.

The OP asked for feedback, and it sucks.

A few flashy things are OK, to bring attention to something important,
but the _whole_page_ !!

So the OP should fix it, or leave it and I for one will not return.

donald
 
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Anthony Fremont

Jan 1, 1970
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Spehro said:
Don't overlook the possibility (however remote it might seem) that it
might be an intentional thing on the part of M$

I guess I'm pretty cynical, but that was the first thing that crossed my
mind. What a coincidence, it just happens to flash annoyingly in
Mozilla.....hmph
 
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Anthony Fremont

Jan 1, 1970
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Donald said:
No matter where it comes from, the page sucks.

The OP asked for feedback, and it sucks.

A few flashy things are OK, to bring attention to something important,
but the _whole_page_ !!

So the OP should fix it, or leave it and I for one will not return.

You are missing the point. The page author didn't intend it to flash like
that. It doesn't flash in IE. Since the author used FrontPage to create
the page, it stands to reason that he tested it with IE and didn't see any
flashing. Did you look at the projects? It's pretty decent work, I'm sure
he'll fix the blinking when he figures out how. ;-) It appears to be a
sick joke by M$.
 
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JeffM

Jan 1, 1970
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Anthony said:
I installed FireFox and I now see it, that does suck.
Like a 9 year old produced it.
..
..
JeffM said:
The OP seems to have used FrontPage (not Word) to create it.
*BY* M$ Word or *FOR* M$ Word--it's all the same:
Bloated, non-compliant code.
BEFORE putting up a page on the Web,
make the effort to assure that it is standards-compliant:
http://validator.w3.org/
http://tidy.sourceforge.net/
..
..
It's not like it's personally his fault
that M$ can't generate proper HTML.
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
:Don't overlook the possibility (however remote it might seem)
:that it might be an intentional thing on the part of M$

Yup. KNOW YOUR VENDOR:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cach...etitors+embrace.extend.and.extinguish&strip=1
One assumes that the OP wasn't forced at gunpoint to use those tools.
Better tools are READILY available for FREE.

If YOU use NON-standards-compliant tools, it is YOUR responsibility
to convert the crap it produces into compliant code.
Don't waste MY bandwidth
downloading unnecessary junk that M$ embeddeds (read: ADDS)
to make their pseudo-HTML **M$ Word-compatible**.
STRIP IT OUT **BEFORE** UPLOADING IT .
(Another link from my 1st post.):
http://www.google.com/search?q=cach...-wonders+HTML-*-from-Microsoft-Word-*&strip=1
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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Like a 9 year old produced it.
.
.

*BY* M$ Word or *FOR* M$ Word--it's all the same:
Bloated, non-compliant code.
BEFORE putting up a page on the Web,
make the effort to assure that it is standards-compliant:
http://validator.w3.org/
http://tidy.sourceforge.net/
.
.
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
:Don't overlook the possibility (however remote it might seem)
:that it might be an intentional thing on the part of M$

Yup. KNOW YOUR VENDOR:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cach...etitors+embrace.extend.and.extinguish&strip=1
One assumes that the OP wasn't forced at gunpoint to use those tools.
Better tools are READILY available for FREE.

If YOU use NON-standards-compliant tools, it is YOUR responsibility
to convert the crap it produces into compliant code.
Don't waste MY bandwidth
downloading unnecessary junk that M$ embeddeds (read: ADDS)
to make their pseudo-HTML **M$ Word-compatible**.
STRIP IT OUT **BEFORE** UPLOADING IT .
(Another link from my 1st post.):
http://www.google.com/search?q=cach...-wonders+HTML-*-from-Microsoft-Word-*&strip=1

If not confined by "free", what HTML editor is "best"?

...Jim Thompson
 
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Anthony Fremont

Jan 1, 1970
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JeffM said:
Like a 9 year old produced it.

Yes it looks bad with the blinky text, but in all fairness, the author
didn't make it look that way on purpose. Once you get past that, the
content is good. In fact, it is very good. I'd hate to see it disappear
because I like his collection of circuitry. I intend to pilfer from it.
;-)
*BY* M$ Word or *FOR* M$ Word--it's all the same:
Bloated, non-compliant code.
BEFORE putting up a page on the Web,
make the effort to assure that it is standards-compliant:
http://validator.w3.org/
http://tidy.sourceforge.net/

Translation: Here is some freely available software that might assist you
in improving your site's compliance.
Yup. KNOW YOUR VENDOR:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cach...etitors+embrace.extend.and.extinguish&strip=1
One assumes that the OP wasn't forced at gunpoint to use those tools.
Better tools are READILY available for FREE.

If YOU use NON-standards-compliant tools, it is YOUR responsibility
to convert the crap it produces into compliant code.
Don't waste MY bandwidth
downloading unnecessary junk that M$ embeddeds (read: ADDS)
to make their pseudo-HTML **M$ Word-compatible**.
STRIP IT OUT **BEFORE** UPLOADING IT .
(Another link from my 1st post.):
http://www.google.com/search?q=cach...-wonders+HTML-*-from-Microsoft-Word-*&strip=1

Translation: Please try to use standards compliant software because some
companys attempt to redefine standards which results in pages that some
browsers have trouble viewing.

My personal comentary: Blah blah blah, do you have a site helping newbies
out with electronics, or maybe HTML? If you made half the effort to explain
this in a non-combative way to the author as you did you humiliate him, we
all might feel better about it. I hope you don't spend allot of time
writing diatribes to every site that crams a bunch of unnecessary junk in
the HTML they send you, or you'll be a very busy individual. ;-)
 
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JeffM

Jan 1, 1970
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Anthony said:
JeffM wrote some unnecessarily mean stuff:
This is Usenet. Get used to it.
I still say everything was accurate and warranted.
..
..
I think the site is decent enough,
The issues are:
1) The irritating flashy crap.
2) Bloated code.
..
..
Where is the spam?
1) First post to the thread is an advertisement.
Exacerbated by the fact that it was HIS first post to the group.
(Not *necessarily* spam--if it's all FREE.)

2) (First link in my post):
http://groups.google.com/groups/sea...TmNvdf4vXUQOco4cocwWvDVg2RHsu8f1bCg&scoring=d

Multi-posted == Spew == SPAM

The OP needs to figure out that THIS ISN'T GOOGLE GROUPS
and learn how to post to Usenet properly:
http://groups.google.com/search?q=c...et.a.feel.for.the.culture+Abuse+Read.the.FAQs
http://groups.google.com/search?q=c...zz+individual.copy+idiotic+infuriates&strip=1
 
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Neimadre

Jan 1, 1970
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This is Usenet. Get used to it.
I still say everything was accurate and warranted.
.
.
The issues are:
1) The irritating flashy crap.
2) Bloated code.
.
.
1) First post to the thread is an advertisement.
Exacerbated by the fact that it was HIS first post to the group.
(Not *necessarily* spam--if it's all FREE.)

2) (First link in my post):
http://groups.google.com/groups/sea...TmNvdf4vXUQOco4cocwWvDVg2RHsu8f1bCg&scoring=d

Multi-posted == Spew == SPAM

The OP needs to figure out that THIS ISN'T GOOGLE GROUPS
and learn how to post to Usenet properly:
http://groups.google.com/search?q=c...et.a.feel.for.the.culture+Abuse+Read.the.FAQs
http://groups.google.com/search?q=c...zz+individual.copy+idiotic+infuriates&strip=1


Just what is the proper way to post to usenet? You're a noob aint ya?


Usenet lits score:
GIT-R-DONE!
#20 Usenet asshole
#6 Lits Slut
#11 Most posting trolls/hunters/flonkers 2007
 
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JeffM

Jan 1, 1970
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KNOW YOUR VENDOR:
Jim said:
If not confined by "free", what HTML editor is "best"?

"Best" is always subjective.

Many pros (who are willing to dedicate the bucks to this app)
use Dreamweaver.

Many folks (some of whom CAN easily afford Dreamweaver)
choose Mozilla Composer / Nvu / KompoZer
--whether it's to support Open Source
or simply because they prefer the feel.

There are also folks who prefer HTML-Kit
because of the way it works with HTML Tidy.

Pick your poison:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cach...HTML.Tidy+Standards-Compliant-Authoring-Tools
 
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