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Leon Heller

Jan 1, 1970
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Simon Peacock said:
guys.. guys.. please .. lets keep it seemly in here..

There's no need to start a war over oil or CAD.. every one has their
preference ... and we are all groupies... If engineers weren't "strange"
and
quirky.. then we couldn't be engineers.. some of the greatest minds in
History have been so weird.. they put Hollywood to shame...

And there's something called Brand Loyalty.. companies do it all the
time..
that's why Apple have university programs.. and you can buy student
software
for one tenth the cost for commercial. Its not because students are
poor...
as Universities aren't.

I've been using protel for decades.. since 2.8.. and at the time it was
one
of the best for the dollar... things might be different now when there are
new start-ups around.. I still believe that for all the faults Protel has
been around for a long time.. and likely to be around for a long time to
come. so bugs will eventually be fixed and the usual theory of 1-2 years
delay or 3 service packs works. Pulsonix MIGHT be a better package right
now... but what is the company history? what are their upgrade plans ?
I looked at Pulsonixs and it reminded me of the older tools I've left
behind
as the graphical interface is still a little clunky but in saying that
Protel has grown slower and slower due to over doing the interface... for
better or for worse. Also the price has only one year maintaince for
Pulsonix.. but Protel is supported until the next release... and some
times
a little past.

I've always thought the Pulsonix interface was very slick. In what way is it
clunky? I've tried Protel, OrCAD and PADS and don't like any of them much,
compared to Pulsonix.

Leon
 
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Brad Velander

Jan 1, 1970
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Geeeee Don,
You are so smart, not!

Why didn't you quote my comments that initiated Simon's
response? Maybe that would have refuted your disparaging comments
towards me?

However, even your quotes from Simon are very selective and
incomplete. Why did you not quote Simon's comment fully? "And yes
DXP is buggy.. but less so then earlier releases of DXP." One
would reasonably assume that the first DXP was actually intended
to be DXP2004 otherwise the comment doesn't really make a lot of
sense.

Now Don, how did you selectively miss Simon's comment from
just the other day? "Some of the bugs are even documentation
issues... on that side they have fallen well
short of 2.8 & 98. But for all its faults.. it is quite usable."

Don, so what are you saying with your quotes from Simon? DXP
Beta releases are buggy? DXP Beta service packs come out too
often, not often enough? Simon's company won't upgrade for what
reason? Simon doesn't actually use or suggest that DXP is usable?
What is it Don?

Troll(n) - look in the mirror!

Maybe you should check the dictionary for "spin doctor" as
well, since you are so adept at using quotes or partial quotes
out of context.
 
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Simon Peacock

Jan 1, 1970
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It depends on what you are used too.. PCAD was all rectangles with square
ends.. so you didn't get a feeling of what was there..
Protel is wisiwig... probably too much so now. Pusonix reminded me of
autotrax.. or at least my initial look did.. unfortunately I had to remove
it as DXP's beta loaded a whole new copy.. and each new beta gradually
filled up my windows partition.

Simon
 
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Leon Heller

Jan 1, 1970
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Simon Peacock said:
It depends on what you are used too.. PCAD was all rectangles with square
ends.. so you didn't get a feeling of what was there..
Protel is wisiwig... probably too much so now. Pusonix reminded me of
autotrax.. or at least my initial look did.. unfortunately I had to remove
it as DXP's beta loaded a whole new copy.. and each new beta gradually
filled up my windows partition.

Pulsonix always has been true WYSIWIG.

Leon
 
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Don Prescott

Jan 1, 1970
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So, I'm adept at using quotes or partial quotes out of context am
I.....Mmmmm
Well lets's look at what you just said:
Now Don, how did you selectively miss Simon's comment from
just the other day? "Some of the bugs are even documentation
issues... on that side they have fallen well
short of 2.8 & 98. But for all its faults.. it is quite usable."

"But for all it's faults it's quite usable......."! note,completely
in context

I had a look at the latest price for Protel....$9995

So Brad, you recommend that folks shell $9995 for a product that's
only "quite useable" do you. Can we take this to mean: "yep it's
buggy and the router is pretty useless, but heck it's only ten
thousand dollars...."!!!!

I spent a whole lot less than that and I have a product that's totally
useable....

And Brad, notice how I defeat your arguments, in context, without
resorting to personal insults...

Prescott
 
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Brad Velander

Jan 1, 1970
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Don,
Now you are using Simon's quotes to put words into my mouth.
And you call that in context do you?

So far you haven't defeated any argument, misquoting is not
winning any argument. If that is winning an argument then you are
feebler than you misquotes.

You have a product that is limited, mind you at fully
unlimited it is still cheaper but that is only an argument that
you have chosen to fight with yourself because I pointed out the
difference in my first reply to you.

So considering your comments and lack of knowledgeable
retorts you must be the real groupie. Nothing else gets
consideration and everyone is only as good as the least common
denominator amongst the gripe class.

This is so over, your just a fucking little wienie who uses
others original thoughts and issues when they are advantageous to
you. Do you even think for yourself Don, or does somebody tell
you how to do that as well?
 
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Don Prescott

Jan 1, 1970
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This is so over, your just a fucking little wienie....

Oh Brad, first I was a "troll" now I'm a "f**ing little weanie".
Brad have you be overdosing on viagra yet again...? I'd answer your
comments but I'm seriously worried about your blood pressure.

Prescott
 
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Brad Velander

Jan 1, 1970
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As if you really give a damn. If you did then you would stop
playing your games with the quotes and suggesting other's quotes
are my words or feelings.
Funny, you seem to think you can put other's words into my
mouth but yet you won't even quote my own words, shows precisely
how lame your comments and your whole argument is.
 

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