# ripped off by ampwares.com

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#### JJ

Jan 1, 1970
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pete said:
I ordered one hundred dollars worth of parts from ampwares.com and
after a week I didnt receive my parts. I looked at my bank account and
my bank account wasnt debited for the order. Thinking they might have
missed something I emailed ampwares. com and told them that my bank
account wasnt debited for the order and I havent received my parts.
The next day my account was debited so I thought that they would send
the parts. After a week I still didnt receive the parts so, I tried to
call but they dont answer their phone and their voice mail is full. I
emailed them again and told them that my account was debited but I
emails and phone calls. I have now turned it over to the Pennsylvania
attourney general, I am hoping they bring ampwares.com up on fraud
charges. If you have been ripped off by ampwares.com go to
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/ppd/bcp/compform/bcpform.cfm and file
a complaint with the attourney general. If you havent ordered from
ampwares.com dont. If you doubt me go to their website email them and
see if you get a reply or phone them and see who you get.

Why would you be dumb enough to let someone debit you bank account?

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#### pete

Jan 1, 1970
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I ordered one hundred dollars worth of parts from ampwares.com and
after a week I didnt receive my parts. I looked at my bank account and
my bank account wasnt debited for the order. Thinking they might have
missed something I emailed ampwares. com and told them that my bank
account wasnt debited for the order and I havent received my parts.
The next day my account was debited so I thought that they would send
the parts. After a week I still didnt receive the parts so, I tried to
call but they dont answer their phone and their voice mail is full. I
emailed them again and told them that my account was debited but I
emails and phone calls. I have now turned it over to the Pennsylvania
attourney general, I am hoping they bring ampwares.com up on fraud
charges. If you have been ripped off by ampwares.com go to
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/ppd/bcp/compform/bcpform.cfm and file
a complaint with the attourney general. If you havent ordered from
ampwares.com dont. If you doubt me go to their website email them and
see if you get a reply or phone them and see who you get.

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#### JJ

Jan 1, 1970
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Ponderosa said:
IF they charged you with any form of a card, call the card provider and have
the charges reversed.

He let them take it directly out of his bank account. Not a smart thing
to do.

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#### Ponderosa Sports

Jan 1, 1970
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IF they charged you with any form of a card, call the card provider and have
the charges reversed.

--
Cliff Harrison
[email protected]
http://www.ponderosasports.com
Ponderosa Sports
6854 Hwy 55
Horseshoe Bend, Idaho 83629
Open 9am-6pm Thu-Sun
Closed Mon-Wed
208-793-3121

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Jan 1, 1970
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pete said:
If you doubt me go to their website email them and
see if you get a reply or phone them and see who you get.

My brother had the exact same problem with them.

He cancelled the purchase by contacting his credit card provider
and was in for a ride. They gave him a hard time as apparently
they give more credit to the seller than the credit card owner...

Took him a month to get his money back. The bank couldn't reach
the seller either...My brother never got _any_ reply from the website

I just emailed him to make sure it was the same website as it did
rang a bell here...

Good luck, You'll need it.
Syl

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#### Ken Taylor

Jan 1, 1970
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My brother had the exact same problem with them.

He cancelled the purchase by contacting his credit card provider
and was in for a ride. They gave him a hard time as apparently
they give more credit to the seller than the credit card owner...

Took him a month to get his money back. The bank couldn't reach
the seller either...My brother never got _any_ reply from the website

I just emailed him to make sure it was the same website as it did
rang a bell here...

Good luck, You'll need it.
Syl
Bank will take 4-6 weeks to give the trader a chance to stump up proof of
service, that's normal, not your brother being given a hard time. If they
didn't even respond to the bank's queries it's probably why they ask for
direct debit of accounts now.

Ken

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#### Tam/WB2TT

Jan 1, 1970
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JJ said:
Why would you be dumb enough to let someone debit you bank account?
Don't ever use a debit card, even if it has a credit option, anywhere except
an ATM machine, a grocery store if you want cash back, or reputable local
store if you have the merchandise in hand.

Tam

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#### Joe

Jan 1, 1970
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For guitar amp stuff I been using Mojo Music Supply http://www.mojotone.com/
Nice people, never a problem, better prices and they always answer the phone
to do an order.
When dealing with music people remember most are a bunch of "out of its"
Most these garage and boiler room operations in Fla and Lala land (Ca) are
just as shady as most the NYC discount camera stores.
I recommend you talk to the guys on alt.guitar.amps

-Joe

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#### Winfield Hill

Jan 1, 1970
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Joe wrote...
just as shady as most the NYC discount camera stores.

Be careful what you say, some of the NYC discount
camera stores are honorable to an extreme degree.

Thanks,
- Win

(email: use hill_at_rowland-dot-org for now)

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#### Andy in NJ

Jan 1, 1970
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pete said:
I ordered one hundred dollars worth of parts from ampwares.com and
after a week I didnt receive my parts. I looked at my bank account and
my bank account wasnt debited for the order. Thinking they might have
missed something I emailed ampwares. com and told them that my bank
account wasnt debited for the order and I havent received my parts.
The next day my account was debited so I thought that they would send
the parts. After a week I still didnt receive the parts so, I tried to
call but they dont answer their phone and their voice mail is full. I
emailed them again and told them that my account was debited but I
emails and phone calls. I have now turned it over to the Pennsylvania
attourney general, I am hoping they bring ampwares.com up on fraud
charges. If you have been ripped off by ampwares.com go to
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/ppd/bcp/compform/bcpform.cfm and file
a complaint with the attourney general. If you havent ordered from
ampwares.com dont. If you doubt me go to their website email them and
see if you get a reply or phone them and see who you get.

So, basically, you didn't get your stuff a week after you were charged and
you're complaining?!

Most online businesses tell you to give them 1 - 3 days to process the
order - which means it may not be shipped for as many as 3 days after you
place the order. They then have to actually ship the item, and taking in
consideration the weekend, you shouldn't expect your item that quickly. If a
few weeks go by and the items isn't there, then it's time to complain.

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#### Andy in NJ

Jan 1, 1970
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Tam/WB2TT said:
Don't ever use a debit card, even if it has a credit option, anywhere except
an ATM machine, a grocery store if you want cash back, or reputable local
store if you have the merchandise in hand.

Tam

That's right, because the black helicopters might find you.

Get real - Debit cards are a staple of today's society. I pay with my Debit
card at lots of different places. It's much more convienent then having to
go to the ATM or the bank for money. Plastic is the future of money. Accept
it.

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#### Le Chaud Lapin

Jan 1, 1970
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Ponderosa Sports said:
IF they charged you with any form of a card, call the card provider and have
the charges reversed.

Cliff is right. Because it was a debit (being used as MC/VISA I
presume), I think the law limits your exposure to $50. That$50 is
only for situations where there was exceptionally gross negligence,
like tossing the card over the wall of a prison yard. In other cases,
you can expect that you will get your money back. I also believe that
your bank is required to issue a credit for the amount pending the
investigation, but this may be true for credit cards only, I do not
recall.

I do recall seeing a charge on my AT&T Universal card back in the
early 1990's for $824.00 that came out of nowhere. Believe it or not, it took less than 1 minute 30 seconds on the phone to get it off. I simply said, "I don't know where this came from, it's not mine", and poof!!! It was gone. That's why I find it amusing when someone loses their credit/debit card and starts freaking out. If they had read the fine print, they would know that there is very little to worry about. -Chaud Lapin- J #### Joe Jan 1, 1970 0 Well OK, I should have said the .com mail order only ones. Last year I called B_ discount photo for a Fuji S602 advertised for$359.99
they said they have it in stock. I said Im around the corner will be right
in to pick it up, the guy goes No No No we are mail order only $359 , this is the "international imported model"+$150 for the warrantee + $35 shipping and handling, +$59 for formatted high speed 16 Meg media card .......credit
I laughed
I called 2 other places one in Brooklyn and got the same guy answering on
the phone "discount photo"

-Joe

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#### Tam/WB2TT

Jan 1, 1970
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If I am ordering something off the web, or somebody else I don't know, I
want to see the credit card bill, not just have it taken out of my account.
That is why I have both kinds of cards. Also, the law about challanging a
charge is different for credit cards and debit cards.

Tam

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#### Tam/WB2TT

Jan 1, 1970
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Winfield Hill said:
Joe wrote...

Be careful what you say, some of the NYC discount
camera stores are honorable to an extreme degree.

You can't go wrong with Adorama or B&H.

Tam

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#### Andy in NJ

Jan 1, 1970
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Tam/WB2TT said:
If I am ordering something off the web, or somebody else I don't know, I
want to see the credit card bill, not just have it taken out of my account.
That is why I have both kinds of cards. Also, the law about challanging a
charge is different for credit cards and debit cards.

Hey, if you want to be inconvenienced by having to make a trip to the bank,
go for it. I can see any transactions I do with my debit card the minute
they happen. I can run down to the corner store, buy a gallon of milk, and
come home and see the charge on my debit card online.

One more advantage - no interest rates!

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#### Tam/WB2TT

Jan 1, 1970
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Andy in NJ said:
Hey, if you want to be inconvenienced by having to make a trip to the bank,
go for it. I can see any transactions I do with my debit card the minute
they happen. I can run down to the corner store, buy a gallon of milk, and
come home and see the charge on my debit card online.

So can I. But it is easier to challenge a charge before you have already
paid it. No interest on credit card if you pay up when it is due.

Tam

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