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David Nebenzahl

Jan 1, 1970
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agreed and acid flux is the WORST thing to use on electrical
applications.

I use what works - and keeps on working for many years afterward.

Remind me *never* to even consider having you make any electrical
repairs for me.

For chrissakes, everyone *knows* not to use acid-core solder for wiring
connections. The fact that we're even talking about it here is totally
ridiculous.

But don't take my word for it:
http://www.scienceprog.com/reliable-soldering-with-fluxes

They say "You should never use acid fluxes in electronic device
soldering and repair, as it will cause corrosion and even can
short-circuit device where gaps between tracks are small."

Sheesh.


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Personally, I like Vista, but I probably won't use it. I like it
because it generates considerable business for me in consulting and
upgrades. As long as there is hardware and software out there that
doesn't work, I stay in business. Incidentally, my company motto is
"If this stuff worked, you wouldn't need me".

- lifted from sci.electronics.repair
 
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ian field

Jan 1, 1970
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David Nebenzahl said:
Remind me *never* to even consider having you make any electrical repairs
for me.

For chrissakes, everyone *knows* not to use acid-core solder for wiring
connections. The fact that we're even talking about it here is totally
ridiculous.

But don't take my word for it:
http://www.scienceprog.com/reliable-soldering-with-fluxes

They say "You should never use acid fluxes in electronic device soldering
and repair, as it will cause corrosion and even can short-circuit device
where gaps between tracks are small."

Sheesh.


--
Personally, I like Vista, but I probably won't use it. I like it
because it generates considerable business for me in consulting and
upgrades. As long as there is hardware and software out there that
doesn't work, I stay in business. Incidentally, my company motto is
"If this stuff worked, you wouldn't need me".

- lifted from sci.electronics.repair

I never said acid - that's you jumping to conclusions and getting it wrong.
 
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David Nebenzahl

Jan 1, 1970
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I never said acid - that's you jumping to conclusions and getting it wrong.

You said, and I quote:
I keep a tub of active plumbers flux ready to hand.

That stuff is acid flux. Wrong flux for wiring.


--
Personally, I like Vista, but I probably won't use it. I like it
because it generates considerable business for me in consulting and
upgrades. As long as there is hardware and software out there that
doesn't work, I stay in business. Incidentally, my company motto is
"If this stuff worked, you wouldn't need me".

- lifted from sci.electronics.repair
 
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Jim Yanik

Jan 1, 1970
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He means for shitty 20 year old automotive or marine wire thats got
so much corrosion on it you can't brush it up. I've seen wire like
this plenty of times and rosin core flux won't touch it. I usually use
cripms on this kind of job, but acid flux also works.

Idea;
use one those anti-fluxes first to block acid flux from getting up where it
can't be cleaned off,before soldering. Like the Tix anti-flux.

I still would try Tarn-X first to clean the corrosion off the wire.
 
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ian field

Jan 1, 1970
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Michael Kennedy said:
He means for shitty 20 year old automotive or marine wire thats got so
much corrosion on it you can't brush it up. I've seen wire like this
plenty of times and rosin core flux won't touch it. I usually use cripms
on this kind of job, but acid flux also works.

Actually I doubt the plumbers flux I use is acid.

UK building regulations are also affected by the dreaded RoHS so things like
corrosive fluxes aren't allowed any more. It was some years ago that
building suppliers stopped stocking Fry Fluxite (zinc chloride) I still find
uses for this flux in certain jobs and finally found a power tool supplier
that could order it..
 
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David Nebenzahl

Jan 1, 1970
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Actually I doubt the plumbers flux I use is acid.

So you actually don't know what is or isn't in it. (I don't either.)
Might be worthwhile rooting around to try to find its contents (either
online, in a MSDS or from a supplier). My guess is that it is, in fact,
an acid flux.
UK building regulations are also affected by the dreaded RoHS so
things like corrosive fluxes aren't allowed any more. It was some
years ago that building suppliers stopped stocking Fry Fluxite (zinc
chloride) I still find uses for this flux in certain jobs and finally
found a power tool supplier that could order it..

I think you misunderstand RoHS and other regs; they don't seek to ban
anything corrosive, just regulate substances that are hazardous. I
seriously doubt that acid fluxes have been banned outright, or that they
ever will.


--
Personally, I like Vista, but I probably won't use it. I like it
because it generates considerable business for me in consulting and
upgrades. As long as there is hardware and software out there that
doesn't work, I stay in business. Incidentally, my company motto is
"If this stuff worked, you wouldn't need me".

- lifted from sci.electronics.repair
 
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Paul aka Sporty

Jan 1, 1970
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ian field said:
It doesn't work - it just burns on as an impenetrable lacquer so you have
to scrape all the strands with a knife blade before you can carry on and
do the job properly with an active flux. If the solder takes on any of the
strands you can't easily scrape them so you then have to cut the ruined
strands off and start all over again!



Capillary action will pull acid up the insulation when heated and down the
road the joint will fail.

46 years of soldering and still learning new "Tricks".
 
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S'mee

Jan 1, 1970
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On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:56:56 -0800 (PST), "S'mee"


|>>         Maybe I'll go rob a crack head for his butane lighterfor all the
|>> use I would need it for on this crampy plastic application....
|>
|>You sure don't know what you are talking about that's for damn sure.
|>But hey do it the hard way, if that's what you want. I mean what would
|>I know, just because I've done if for a long damn time.

        What CRACK?????...no shit heh!

What ever, I was just trying help. But hey, do what you want...it
ain't my wiring. I either clean it and solder or crimp.
 
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Jan 1, 1970
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What ever (snip)

Nothing to see here folks, just a *stupid* thread that's gone on so
long it's attracted bottom feeders like Keith.

Move along, move along.
 
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S'mee

Jan 1, 1970
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Nothing to see here folks, just a *stupid* thread that's gone on so
long it's attracted bottom feeders like Keith.

Hmm, this coming from a liar, psychopath and all around idiot? High
compliments indeed. Tell me oh font of arcane knowledge how could a
reject, racist, liar, idot, pursuer of under age mexicans and all
around lonely, unemployed loser with no family possibly know anything
about what I do or do not do? Hmm...then again you are an internet
stalker who mines other peoples info. Much as you've attempted to do
to me and use like the sick bastard you are.

Funny thing Krusty...it doesn't scare me. Nothing you could do scares
me. Lie all you want...nobody believes you. You to can be found just
like everyone else.

For that matter you've contributed NOTHING to this thread...as usual
for a loser of your high caliber.
 
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S'mee

Jan 1, 1970
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Nothing to see here folks. Just some typical sea gull crap.

Move along, move along.

Ah...still scared of me I see. Trying to push everyone away...too late
the world left you behind goober. Now take your inbred white trash act
somewhere else like antarctica.
 
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ian field

Jan 1, 1970
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On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:16:25 -0000, Dave Plowman (News)


How so?

Next time you two clowns have a thought, just let it go, m'kay?

PHucker is a well known troll who bullshits in groups on topics he knows
absolutely nothing about - he's already been laughed out of all the
sci.electronics groups for spouting BS to guys who design chips and
aerospace gear - his "home haunt" is alt.binaries.chatter .
 
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The Older Gentleman

Jan 1, 1970
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Michael A. Terrell said:
He's busy making a fool of himself in a thread crossposted to the
news:rec.crafts.metalworking newsgroup, too.

He and Krusty are well suited as a team, then.
 
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Schiffner

Jan 1, 1970
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Wind is a problem with an electric soldering iron too.  

Only on cold days...cold being UNDER 35F. Well that's my definition,
what would I know I've installed AC compressor units when it was 25F.
Getting the torch lit was the hardest part as the winds were a good
bit over 25mph that day. 8^(

Electric soldering irons shouldn't be bothered on windy days unless
it's damn cold.
 
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ian field

Jan 1, 1970
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Wind is a problem with an electric soldering iron too.

Only on cold days...cold being UNDER 35F. Well that's my definition,
what would I know I've installed AC compressor units when it was 25F.
Getting the torch lit was the hardest part as the winds were a good
bit over 25mph that day. 8^(

Electric soldering irons shouldn't be bothered on windy days unless
it's damn cold.
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Temperature controlled soldering irons should cope unless its *BLOODY* cold,
the cheaper ones with no thermostat are regulated (of sorts) by a positive
temperature coefficient in the resistance wire the element is wound with. As
the element heats up it's resistance increases so the current draw levels
off, conversely if its cooled the resistance reduces increasing the current
draw.
 
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ian field

Jan 1, 1970
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Peter Hucker said:
Only a piddly 18W Antex. Temp-controlled ones don't have wind problems.

PHucker has a hot air problem!
 
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