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E

Jan 1, 1970
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Sorry bout the cross post,
but I really need some assistance.

Does anyone know how to,
without tearing the wall down,
see whats behind a wall?
Any technology that
can do this?

I think I have a peeping tom
throwing microphones
up my wall from his
downstairs apartment.
It could also be a video or something
similar.

It sounds like wires rustling
across the wall
and it only happens
when I hear him downstairs.

Occasionally there will be a loud
crack, or a snap.
Whatever it is, I need to know
whats going on.

Thanks in advance,
E
 
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Neil

Jan 1, 1970
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Remember Occams Razor that states:
when given a multitude of answers to a given question, the most likely to be
correct, is the simplest answer.

You got mice kiddo.
....and when he's downstairs...he's scaring them, so they scamper upstairs.

Is your apartment so fascinating that he would want to go to all the trouble
of placing cameras and microphones into your wall?.
Sounds most likely that it isn't...unless you have some pretty remarkable
cans! (and I don't mean Campbell's Soup!).
Kim
 
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Neil

Jan 1, 1970
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Remember Occams Razor that states:
when given a multitude of answers to a given question, the most likely to be
correct, is the simplest answer.

You got mice kiddo.
....and when he's downstairs...he's scaring them, so they scamper upstairs.

Is your apartment so fascinating that he would want to go to all the trouble
of placing cameras and microphones into your wall?.
Sounds most likely that it isn't...unless you have some pretty remarkable
cans! (and I don't mean Campbell's Soup!).
Kim
 
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Neil

Jan 1, 1970
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Remember Occams Razor that states:
when given a multitude of answers to a given question, the most likely to be
correct, is the simplest answer.

You got mice kiddo.
....and when he's downstairs...he's scaring them, so they scamper upstairs.

Is your apartment so fascinating that he would want to go to all the trouble
of placing cameras and microphones into your wall?.
Sounds most likely that it isn't...unless you have some pretty remarkable
cans! (and I don't mean Campbell's Soup!).
Kim
 
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Neil

Jan 1, 1970
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Remember Occams Razor that states:
when given a multitude of answers to a given question, the most likely to be
correct, is the simplest answer.

You got mice kiddo.
....and when he's downstairs...he's scaring them, so they scamper upstairs.

Is your apartment so fascinating that he would want to go to all the trouble
of placing cameras and microphones into your wall?.
Sounds most likely that it isn't...unless you have some pretty remarkable
cans! (and I don't mean Campbell's Soup!).
Kim
 
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Neil

Jan 1, 1970
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Remember Occams Razor that states:
when given a multitude of answers to a given question, the most likely to be
correct, is the simplest answer.

You got mice kiddo.
....and when he's downstairs...he's scaring them, so they scamper upstairs.

Is your apartment so fascinating that he would want to go to all the trouble
of placing cameras and microphones into your wall?.
Sounds most likely that it isn't...unless you have some pretty remarkable
cans! (and I don't mean Campbell's Soup!).
Kim
 
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Neil

Jan 1, 1970
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Sorry, my Outlook kept telling me that it couldn't find or resolve this
newsgroup, so I sent 3 times...soon all 3 showed up.
Its all a conspiracy.....is someone doing this to me???
OHMYGOD!
Kim
 
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Baphomet

Jan 1, 1970
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Neil said:
Sorry, my Outlook kept telling me that it couldn't find or resolve this
newsgroup, so I sent 3 times...soon all 3 showed up.
Its all a conspiracy.....is someone doing this to me???
OHMYGOD!
Kim

Occam's Razor notwithstanding, if you could only see inside your computer,
you would see the little gremlins causing this mischief :)
 
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Neil

Jan 1, 1970
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Actually, occams razor states that the easiest answer to this is that I'm a
idiot.
Kim
 
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Rheilly Phoull

Jan 1, 1970
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Neil said:
Actually, occams razor states that the easiest answer to this is that I'm a
idiot.
Kim
Another use for the "Ocams" would be to draw it slowly across your wrists
when in such a situation :)
 
O

onestone

Jan 1, 1970
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Paranoia aside, check out the spy and gadget shops and web sites, they
will sell you a scanner to detect anything electronic in your walls.

Al
 
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Quack

Jan 1, 1970
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Paranoia aside, check out the spy and gadget shops and web sites, they
will sell you a scanner to detect anything electronic in your walls.

Al

Actually those 'scanners' are more likely to scan for radio
transmissions - assuming the 'bug' (video or audio) would be wireless.

As for a possible 'wired' camera or microphone in the wall, i doubt
that would be detectable in any easy way.

Try spying on him to see if he's spying on you :)
 
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Mary Alison

Jan 1, 1970
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[email protected] (Quack) wrote in message news: said:
Actually those 'scanners' are more likely to scan for radio
transmissions - assuming the 'bug' (video or audio) would be wireless.

As for a possible 'wired' camera or microphone in the wall, i doubt
that would be detectable in any easy way.

Try spying on him to see if he's spying on you :)



Here's a little tip for those of you who don't have the money to
invest in alot of expensive electronics.

Buy a pet. Observe their behavior. If you have any experience
whatsoever with observing various types of animal behaviours, then you
should be able to tell when something provokes an unusual behavior. I
have a bird who flies and dives around the house and goes crazy
everytime I reboot my computer. She also takes a special interest in
my remote when being used.

(If I hadn't given her the entire run of the house instead of keeping
her caged, I would have never learned this.)

If there is anything electronic beyond the norm happening near your
pet they WILL react. Dogs... cats, also.
 
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Andy Baxter

Jan 1, 1970
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At earth time Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:06:16 -0800, the following transmission was received from the entity known as Mary Alison:
Here's a little tip for those of you who don't have the money to
invest in alot of expensive electronics.

Buy a pet. Observe their behavior. If you have any experience
whatsoever with observing various types of animal behaviours, then you
should be able to tell when something provokes an unusual behavior. I
have a bird who flies and dives around the house and goes crazy
everytime I reboot my computer. She also takes a special interest in
my remote when being used.

(If I hadn't given her the entire run of the house instead of keeping
her caged, I would have never learned this.)

If there is anything electronic beyond the norm happening near your
pet they WILL react. Dogs... cats, also.

But if you're not good with animals (many people aren't), this could be a
good way of adding to your paranoia and upsetting the dog.
 
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Joshua Copeland

Jan 1, 1970
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Andy Baxter said:
At earth time Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:06:16 -0800, the following transmission was received from the entity known as Mary Alison:
I have no idea whether the first poster is "paranoid" or not, but
there is technology out there that lets you see through things. I
forget the web page name, but it's called something like
"millimetervision" or something. I'll try and see if I can find it.
One way I know this is true (Here goes my credability down the drain)
is that there are porn sights where you can use the device (It can be
about the size of a hand held camera) to take pics of what is "under"
female college students clothes. Only been on that sight once. The
first poster should consult a PI. They have access to microphones that
can filter out louder sounds and are extremely sensitive to really
softer sounds. A good PI, with the right microphone (I'm not making
this up) can "hear" a nose picking, and can hear a male getting a hard
on (Provided the male is wearing pants or underwear.) There are
specific noises good PI's can recognize. Maybe a more proper forum for
my post is a more perverse one, but just thought I would put in my two
cents. The first poster has to have a good motive to be really
believable, but it is possible to "keep watch" on someone through
walls. If someone is considered suicidal, police aren't going to waste
the taxpayer's money constantly watching the potential suicide victim,
so another option is for the concerned parties involved to hire PI's
to keep constant watch on the person. The "suicide watch" involves
letting the person know, through microphones and/or cameras, that they
(said private investigator) knows exactly what the person is doing in
the room and where they are in the room 24/7. And, I'm sure, the same
technology can also be used to **** with someone. But again, the first
poster needs to give a context.
 
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Peter de Vroomen

Jan 1, 1970
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One way I know this is true (Here goes my credability down the drain)
is that there are porn sights where you can use the device (It can be
about the size of a hand held camera) to take pics of what is "under"
female college students clothes.

That's simple, just use a B&W camera that's sensitive to infrared. It won't
actually records what's under the clothes, but it will record the variations
in temperature, which simply is the next best thing. There are lots of
details in heat signatures.

One Sony camera had problems with this, in that the picture was so detailed
that it seemed you were looking at the real thing.

PeterV
 
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bushbadee

Jan 1, 1970
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One Sony camera had problems with this, in that the picture was so detailed
that it seemed you were looking at the real thing.

PeterV
Yes damn it.
I have that camera.
It is a movie camera that is sensitive to infer red.
The problem is that they have reduced the sensitivity of the camera and
removed the filter holder that held the required filter to filter out normal
light.

The older versions of this model with the high sensitivity fetch a pretty
good price.

Unfortunetly, damn it, I have the newer less sensitive model

But it is great for taking pictures in the woods in absolute blackness.
The camera does have a built in infer red light bulb to illuminate scenes
for up toa bout 10 feet and you can get a little more powerful light that
goes for up to about 100 feet.

In the darkness you do not need the filter to filter out normal light.
Great camera very sensitive and it has a great image stabilizer
As to shake reducer's I also have 10 power image stabilized binoculars.
Really great., but a bit expensive.
The 10 power ones are some wheres around $300 but if you go to 12 or 16
power ones you are talking 1200 to 1600 dollars.
 
S

Sir Charles W. Shults III

Jan 1, 1970
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bushbadee said:
Yes damn it.
I have that camera.
It is a movie camera that is sensitive to infer red.

Infrared.
 
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bushbadee

Jan 1, 1970
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Yep infra red
The light in it is a infer red light and you can not even see it when it is
on.
 
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Watson A.Name - Watt Sun, Dark Remover

Jan 1, 1970
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I have no idea whether the first poster is "paranoid" or not, but
there is technology out there that lets you see through things. I
forget the web page name, but it's called something like
"millimetervision" or something. I'll try and see if I can find it.
One way I know this is true (Here goes my credability down the drain)

You never had any credibility to begin with. If you had, you wouldn't
have made such wildly unrealistic claims without some form of
substantiation such as a reference to a book, manual, website, or
gov't document.
is that there are porn sights where you can use the device (It can be
about the size of a hand held camera) to take pics of what is "under"
female college students clothes. Only been on that sight once. The

Like, it only works with female college students? Gimme a break! DUH!
You've been reading too many of the ads in the back of those tabloid
magazines. You'd believe anything.
first poster should consult a PI. They have access to microphones that
can filter out louder sounds and are extremely sensitive to really
softer sounds. A good PI, with the right microphone (I'm not making
this up) can "hear" a nose picking, and can hear a male getting a hard
on (Provided the male is wearing pants or underwear.) There are
specific noises good PI's can recognize. Maybe a more proper forum for
my post is a more perverse one, but just thought I would put in my two

You belong in a class by yourself, it's called a KOOK. See if you can
find a few more believers on Bill Beatty's website,
http://www.amasci.com/weird.html
cents. The first poster has to have a good motive to be really
believable, but it is possible to "keep watch" on someone through
walls. If someone is considered suicidal, police aren't going to waste
the taxpayer's money constantly watching the potential suicide victim,
so another option is for the concerned parties involved to hire PI's
to keep constant watch on the person. The "suicide watch" involves
letting the person know, through microphones and/or cameras, that they
(said private investigator) knows exactly what the person is doing in
the room and where they are in the room 24/7. And, I'm sure, the same
technology can also be used to **** with someone. But again, the first
poster needs to give a context.

What a weirdo.

[snip]

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