Winfield said:
Without an LED load the voltage soars to near Vin, which could be as
high as 45V. What happens the instant the LEDs are attached? First
a short high-current spike, followed by excessive LM317 voltage (if
only one LED is used), etc.? Hmm, I wonder how the LM317 responds
to a high voltage across its Vout and ADJ terminals for a short time?
I see there's a 6V zener in series with 50 ohms inside the chip, but
that resistor isn't a power resistor... Time for some experiments.
You may have a better chance of surviving something like this with the
NPN-PNP Vbe compensated buffer because the 317 current drops to zero and
there is no stored charge in the output transistors. If the LM385 was a
bit faster, something like this would survive- a variation on the
standard precision current source with current source pulldown that is
cut-off with shorted load- the PNP power can be saved with enough heat
sink to carry it through the x msecs under non-short but abrupt drop in
output voltage.
View in a fixed-width font such as Courier.
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.. Vin >--+
.. |
.. +------------+
.. | Vin | Vout = Vleds+3.3V
.. | sw |---+--L1-+-----+----------+----------+----+
.. | | | | | | | _|_+
.. | | - | | | 3.9 ---
.. | | D1^ | | LM385 1W |
.. | | - | | ---/ | GND
.. | | | 2.7K | // \---------+
.. | | GND | | --- |
.. | | | | | |/e
.. | LM2574-ADJ | | | | ,-|
.. | etc | | | | |/e |\ 2N5195
.. | | | | +----| |
.. | | | | | |\ |
.. | | | | | '---+
.. | | | \| | BC856 |
.. | | | BC846 |-------------------+
.. | | | e/| | |
.. | | | | | |
.. | | | | | |
.. | | | | | |
.. | | e\| | | D2 |
.. | | BC856 |---+--------------|>|----+-->>--,
.. | | /| | | 1N4148 |
.. | | 1.23V | | | |
.. | fb |---+-----' | |/ -
.. | gnd | | +-10K-+--| BC846 LEDs V
.. +------------+ 1K | | |\e -
.. | | | \| | |
.. | | | BC846|--+ |
.. | | 4.7K e/| | |
.. | | | | 560 |
.. | | | | | |
.. | | | | | |
.. GND------+----------+-----------+-----+----+------------->>--'
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