Stun Guns

[ronnen]

We see a lot of high voltage stun guns. Is it possible to produce a
stun gun of 500KV or more? How do they calculate there voltage?
Did anyone investigate the length and amplitude of pulses that a stun
gun produces? I know a stun gun is lethal if the RMS current and the
length of the pulse are higher of certain values? Does someone have
the exact data?

 

[Paul Burridge]

We see a lot of high voltage stun guns. Is it possible to produce a
stun gun of 500KV or more? How do they calculate there voltage?
Did anyone investigate the length and amplitude of pulses that a stun
gun produces? I know a stun gun is lethal if the RMS current and the
length of the pulse are higher of certain values? Does someone have
the exact data?

There isn't any meaningful data. Tolerance to electric shock varies
enormously between individuals.
What do you want half a million volts for, anyway? Do you keep rhinos?

 

[Sporkman]

There isn't any meaningful data. Tolerance to electric shock varies
enormously between individuals.
What do you want half a million volts for, anyway? Do you keep rhinos?

He's thinking of stopping Palestinians.

 

[John Larkin]

We see a lot of high voltage stun guns. Is it possible to produce a
stun gun of 500KV or more?

Not unless the electrodes were a foot or more apart. I doubt that any
handheld device could produce that much voltage without frying itself;
there's just not enough room inside for a transformer or wiring with
this kind of insulation.

Sounds bogus.

John

 

[Ken Taylor]

Not unless the electrodes were a foot or more apart. I doubt that any
handheld device could produce that much voltage without frying itself;
there's just not enough room inside for a transformer or wiring with
this kind of insulation.

Sounds bogus.

John

Good troll though.

 

[John Larkin]

Good troll though.

Six posts so far. Not impressed.

John

 

[Thomas Magma]

Might want to talk to some Nazis on this one (alt.net.nazis). I think Hitler
collected some data on this topic back in the forties.

 

[budgie]

He's thinking of stopping Palestinians.

500kV will stop a lot of them - if only he can get them all to link up and hold
hands ...

 

[PaPaPeng]

500kV will stop a lot of them - if only he can get them all to link up and hold
hands ...

The American prison officials at Iraq's Abu Ghraib had already been
there, done that. Wait for them to publish their findings.

 

[Paul Burridge]

500kV will stop a lot of them - if only he can get them all to link up and hold
hands ...

Now you'd better watch out for any suspicious looking terrorists
turning up for the next 'Hands Across America" stunt.

 

[ronnen]

Please be serious you all. I am talking about comercial products that
advertise unreachable voltahe values (500KV, 650KV, 750KV). Why do
they do it? I am not talking about one firm, try search google for
stun guns and you will find many "high voltage" stun guns. Did anyone
check the effective throughput of these? Can anyone supply more
information about current, RMS current, internal resistent of the
guns, frequency and structure of the pulse, etc. I am asking these
questions to assist me handling a commercial project I am involved in.

 

[Dave VanHorn]

Please be serious you all. I am talking about comercial products that
advertise unreachable voltahe values (500KV, 650KV, 750KV). Why do
they do it? I am not talking about one firm, try search google for
stun guns and you will find many "high voltage" stun guns. Did anyone
check the effective throughput of these?

Marketing..


If you want to get to high voltages fairly easily, try a Marx Generator.
Good designs achieve erection quickly and easily, and produce reliable
output.

http://www.kronjaeger.com/hv/hv/src/marx/index.html

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

Please be serious you all. I am talking about comercial products that
advertise unreachable voltahe values (500KV, 650KV, 750KV). Why do
they do it? I am not talking about one firm, try search google for
stun guns and you will find many "high voltage" stun guns. Did anyone
check the effective throughput of these? Can anyone supply more
information about current, RMS current, internal resistent of the
guns, frequency and structure of the pulse, etc. I am asking these
questions to assist me handling a commercial project I am involved in.

Maybe if you seek out the geniuses at Sears who have figured out how
to run a 6HP motor from an ordinary 120VAC outlet you will find your
answer grasshopper.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[Rich Grise]

Dave VanHorn wrote:
....

Good designs achieve erection quickly and easily, and produce reliable
output.

Does Christina Aguilera Nude have anything to do with this?

 

[Paul Burridge]

If you want to get to high voltages fairly easily, try a Marx Generator.
Good designs achieve erection quickly and easily, and produce reliable
output.

But this technique is not the one employed in commercial production
designs of stun guns, is it? What method do the commercial devices use
to generate the 50KV or so that's the typical realistic output for
these things?

 

[Dave VanHorn]

But this technique is not the one employed in commercial production
designs of stun guns, is it? What method do the commercial devices use
to generate the 50KV or so that's the typical realistic output for
these things?

Likely a series-resonant design, where you get voltage multiplication in
excess of the transformer ratio. Still, way over-hyped.

 

[Charlie+]

On 13 Aug 2004 22:30:01 -0700, [email protected] (ronnen) wrote as
underneath my scribble :

I also have wondered casually on these things and the odd picture of
stunbatons that you see on TV seem to have prods with a spacing of
about 0.75 to 1 inch and a flash period of about 0.5 second, the
flashover distance in free air gives you the voltage, The voltages you
mention sound massively high to me , but you could be right!
I imagine lethality depends on the capacitance behind the flash >0 pf
= least likely death! I have absolutely no practical experience of
these things so Im guessing. I would guess also that use has a
fatality percentage rate on the recipiants no matter how carefully
controlled the 'dose' voltage is, and what part of the body is
stunned. If you have a legally right interest why not go to one of
the fairs for police weaponry and ask questions.
Didnt USA mil hush up the Japanese involvement with all these types
of apalling fatal experiments (also including nerve agents) on
thousands of Chinese captives - in exchange for secretly obtaining all
the experimental data!! (W-War 2). What a world! Arnt' humans
wunnerful!
Charlie+