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Tim Williams

Jan 1, 1970
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John Devereux said:
Optimal should include the development cost, which should include the
time taken to do the optimization :)

This is something I am forever getting wrong myself - I can spend far
too long "optimizing" - fiddling - with the design, at all stages.

I tend to "play" with my projects, changing a resistor here, running a
simulation there, pushing traces around until they look nice. After a few
days to weeks of doing that, I find my changes slow down, even the useless
cosmetic things. That's when I decide I've hit a local maxima and order a
prototype. Then I do the same thing in real life, which if the simulation
wasn't lying to me, needs few changes if any.

Tim
 
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Fred Abse

Jan 1, 1970
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Only trivial problems are defined well enough.

Sometimes, getting the client to define the problem precisely can be the
hardest part of the project.
 
You might want to check in the mirror to see who is spouting nonsense.
If you think in the 21st Century, nobody cares about power, you will be
left far far far behind.

The energy used to heat the interior of my car is of no interest at
all. Now, tuck your ignorant lefty tail between your legs and run
away yelping like the little ankle biter you are.
Oh, have you ever heard of a company called Arm? Intel has.

Strawman noted. It is the lefty's best argument. Well, the non
sequitur is pretty high up on the list, too.
 
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George Herold

Jan 1, 1970
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The energy used to heat the interior of my car is of no interest at
all.
It could matter for an electic/ hybrid car. (In Buffalo, in winter.)

George H.

Now, tuck your ignorant lefty tail between your legs and run
 
I agree with Bruce. Putting it all together isn't going to come from any book.

Actually you're wrong about that. There is a 1500-page tome written by a veteran of the industry with a few hundred mass produced products manufactured by the top corporations in the business in his resume that purports to cover every single aspect of real world product development in excruciating detail. I hesitate to link to it because it lists for nearly $1000, a Kluwerproduct.
 
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Roberto Waltman

Jan 1, 1970
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pere said:
... There is a second edition from 2004, which I am looking at
now

And a third:
Publication Date: January 26, 2012 | ISBN-10: 0080971385 | ISBN-13:
978-0080971384 | Edition: 3
 
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Klaus Kragelund

Jan 1, 1970
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Actually you're wrong about that. There is a 1500-page tome written by a veteran of the industry with a few hundred mass produced products manufactured by the top corporations in the business in his resume that purports to cover every single aspect of real world product development in excruciatingdetail. I hesitate to link to it because it lists for nearly $1000, a Kluwer product.

Please post the link, sounds intriguing :)

Cheers

Klaus
 
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George Herold

Jan 1, 1970
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You may as well write a book about playing tennis, and expect people to read it
and then go win matches.

Hmm I read this 'thinking mans tennis book' back in high school
(1970's). The idea was *not* to think too much about it. (I can't
recall the name.) I think it helped me a little.

But I do agree, for me personally, I really learn something when I
make a mistake and get my nose rubbed in it... so to speak.
So instead of a book how about a design class where they have to make
something.

George H.
 
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josephkk

Jan 1, 1970
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Hmm I read this 'thinking mans tennis book' back in high school
(1970's). The idea was *not* to think too much about it. (I can't
recall the name.) I think it helped me a little.

But I do agree, for me personally, I really learn something when I
make a mistake and get my nose rubbed in it... so to speak.
So instead of a book how about a design class where they have to make
something.

George H.

Kind of reminds me of my Digital 2nd semester class with project. The
task was to make an I/O card that would do BCD arithmetic add. The
various designs were all over the place, mine was the high hardware
extreme, full up 16 bit (4 digits) all in direct MSI and gates. No timing
issues, the result was ready faster than the assembler program could get
to it. Mine could subtract as well, got an A. Then again i was making
pretty good money already doing electrical engineering full time. I think
i still have it after maybe 25-30 years.

?-)
 
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josephkk

Jan 1, 1970
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You don't know the difference between fantasy & optimal.

Fer screaming out loud, miso is a hyperliberal nutter, of course he can't
tell the difference between fantasy and anything else. It is abruptly
clear his engineering thinking is no better than his economic thinking;
pure fantasy.

?-)
 
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George Herold

Jan 1, 1970
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Kind of reminds me of my Digital 2nd semester class with project.  The
task was to make an I/O card that would do BCD arithmetic add.  The
various designs were all over the place, mine was the high hardware
extreme, full up 16 bit (4 digits) all in direct MSI and gates.  No timing
issues, the result was ready faster than the assembler program could get
to it.  Mine could subtract as well, got an A.  Then again i was making
pretty good money already doing electrical engineering full time.  I think
i still have it after maybe 25-30 years.

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Grin, Darold Wobshcall, EE410, senior year. I only made two or three
mistakes in my final project. I still sometimes pull his book of the
shelf "Circuit design for electronic instrumentation."

George H.
 
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