# The One and Only Quantum of Heat

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#### Anomaly Magnetism

Jan 1, 1970
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The Quantum of heat is the thermon and only the thermon. OKAY. Not the
electron, not the photon, and not the phonon. If you disgree please
check out: http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/Articles/3-4/commentary3-4.htm

Jacob Ghitis states in the Journal of Theoretics:

"I insist in the existence of the "thermon," as a quantum of
heat. (Curiously, I just read for the first time about "thermion," a
name no longer in use, since it was applied to the electrons ejected
from the cathode of the vacuum tubes, which no longer are in use.) The
phonon would be a quantum of "infra-thermic" energy, also a
manifestation of vibrating electrons. The photons emitted by
electrons "excited" in a peculiar way manifested by allegedly jumping
to a higher orbit, are peculiar electric manifestations."

Electron is the quantum of negative electricity and not heat

Photon is the quantum of electromagnetic radiation (including light)
and not heat.

Phonon is the quantum of mechanical vibration (including sound) and
not heat.

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#### Repeating Decimal

Jan 1, 1970
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The Quantum of heat is the thermon and only the thermon. OKAY. Not the
electron, not the photon, and not the phonon. If you disgree please
check out: http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/Articles/3-4/commentary3-4.htm

Jacob Ghitis states in the Journal of Theoretics:

"I insist in the existence of the "thermon," as a quantum of
heat. (Curiously, I just read for the first time about "thermion," a
name no longer in use, since it was applied to the electrons ejected
from the cathode of the vacuum tubes, which no longer are in use.) The
phonon would be a quantum of "infra-thermic" energy, also a
manifestation of vibrating electrons. The photons emitted by
electrons "excited" in a peculiar way manifested by allegedly jumping
to a higher orbit, are peculiar electric manifestations."

Electron is the quantum of negative electricity and not heat

Photon is the quantum of electromagnetic radiation (including light)
and not heat.

Phonon is the quantum of mechanical vibration (including sound) and
not heat.

So a phonon is quantum of mechanical vibration ...

What is wrong with that? It seems good enough. All this other stuff seems to
violate the spirit of Occam's razor. Before investing my time, what new
insight will I get? How will knowledge of statistical mechanics be improved
or simplified?

Bill

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#### Coreleus Corneleus

Jan 1, 1970
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The Quantum of heat is the thermon and only the thermon. OKAY. Not the
electron, not the photon, and not the phonon. If you disgree please
check out: http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/Articles/3-4/commentary3-4.htm

Jacob Ghitis states in the Journal of Theoretics:

"I insist in the existence of the "thermon," as a quantum of
heat. (Curiously, I just read for the first time about "thermion," a
name no longer in use, since it was applied to the electrons ejected
...
Electron is the quantum of negative electricity and not heat

Photon is the quantum of electromagnetic radiation (including light)
and not heat.

Phonon is the quantum of mechanical vibration (including sound) and
not heat.

Generally, equations dealing with variables involving the transfer of
energy known of as heat, do not occur at such small levels that
quantitisation from specific, individual atomic or molecular orbital
transitions or photonic transfer is significant. They usually deal
with ensembles of large numbers of atoms or molecules, or measured
values at scales much larger than those involving singlular atomic or
molecular orbital energies.

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#### Anomaly Magnetism

Jan 1, 1970
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Repeating Decimal said:
So a phonon is quantum of mechanical vibration ...

What is wrong with that? It seems good enough.

Phonon is still not the quantum of heat
All this other stuff seems to
violate the spirit of Occam's razor.
Meaning?

Before investing my time, what new
insight will I get?

1. How to direct heat energy to a desired source.

2. Perhaps discovering the anti-thermon.
How will knowledge of statistical mechanics be improved
or simplified?

Anti-thermons could be used to cool the environment without
circulating air. Imagine an quiet "air-conditioner" that does not
circulate air but just cools a room.

Anti-thermons could also be used to cool electrical equipment. No more
CPU fans would be needed. Electrostatic would no longer fry silicon
chips. You could turn up your amp to the maximum volume with clipping
spikes without worrying the tweeter(s) over-heating.

Neuro-electronics could be used for medicine without thermally
damaging tissues.

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#### Repeating Decimal

Jan 1, 1970
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Phonon is still not the quantum of heat

Meaning?

You are making things more complicated than necessary to describe nature.
1. How to direct heat energy to a desired source.

2. Perhaps discovering the anti-thermon.

Anti-thermons could be used to cool the environment without
circulating air. Imagine an quiet "air-conditioner" that does not
circulate air but just cools a room.

Anti-thermons could also be used to cool electrical equipment. No more
CPU fans would be needed. Electrostatic would no longer fry silicon
chips. You could turn up your amp to the maximum volume with clipping
spikes without worrying the tweeter(s) over-heating.

Neuro-electronics could be used for medicine without thermally
damaging tissues.

benefit. It will become possible to construct a perpetual motion device of
the second kind!

Bill

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#### daestrom

Jan 1, 1970
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Anomaly Magnetism said:
The Quantum of heat is the thermon and only the thermon. OKAY. Not the
electron, not the photon, and not the phonon. If you disgree please
check out: http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/Articles/3-4/commentary3-4.htm

Phonon is the quantum of mechanical vibration (including sound) and
not heat.

The 'phonon' is used to describe the transfer of heat between atomic
particles in direct contact. Heat conduction through solids has been
studied for years and the accepted term for the movement of heat through
solids at the atomic level is the 'phonon'.

The mechanical vibration (translational, torsional, and longitudinal) of
molecules *is* heat.

daestrom

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#### Anomaly Magnetism

Jan 1, 1970
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daestrom said:
The 'phonon' is used to describe the transfer of heat between atomic
particles in direct contact. Heat conduction through solids has been
studied for years and the accepted term for the movement of heat through
solids at the atomic level is the 'phonon'.

What about the movement of heat through an empty space?

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#### Repeating Decimal

Jan 1, 1970
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This paragraph is not quite correct. Phonons are vibrations that cover large
volumes but interact locally. A good analogy is the electromagnetic field
that is extensive but manifests itself locally as when a photoelectron is
emitted out of a photosurface.
What about the movement of heat through an empty space?

Heat as such does not move through empty space, unless you are referring to
the term "radiant heat." In that case, it is an electromagnetic transfer
just as light is.

Bill

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#### George Wilkie

Jan 1, 1970
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What about the movement of heat through an empty space?

C'mon, you know better than that. Heat doesn't travel through empty space.

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#### Anomaly Magnetism

Jan 1, 1970
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Repeating Decimal said:
at [email protected] wrote on 10/10/03 7:57 PM:

Heat as such does not move through empty space, unless you are referring to
the term "radiant heat." In that case, it is an electromagnetic transfer
just as light is.

Does "radiant heat" travel at lightspeed?

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#### Duane C. Johnson

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi Anomaly;

Anomaly Magnetism said:
Does "radiant heat" travel at lightspeed?

Yes, basically this is infra red light.
So it travels at the speed of light in free space.

Duane

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#### Anomaly Magnetism

Jan 1, 1970
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Duane C. Johnson said:
Hi Anomaly;

Not right. We shouldn't be using the term "radiant heat"
in the first place. Heat doesn't radiate.
Heat can conduct or convect but not radiate.

Then how does heat travel through empty space?

How does heat from the sun reach the earth?

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#### Anomaly Magnetism

Jan 1, 1970
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Duane C. Johnson said:
Hi Anomaly;

Not right. We shouldn't be using the term "radiant heat"
in the first place. Heat doesn't radiate.
Heat can conduct or convect but not radiate.

Then how does heat travel through empty space?

How does the sun's heat reach the earth?

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#### Anomaly Magnetism

Jan 1, 1970
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Duane C. Johnson said:
Hi Anomaly;

Not right. We shouldn't be using the term "radiant heat"
in the first place. Heat doesn't radiate.
Heat can conduct or convect but not radiate.

Then how does heat travel through empty space?

How does the sun's heat reach the earth?

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#### Anomaly Magnetism

Jan 1, 1970
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Duane C. Johnson said:
Hi Anomaly;

Not right. We shouldn't be using the term "radiant heat"
in the first place. Heat doesn't radiate.
Heat can conduct or convect but not radiate.

Then how does heat travel through empty space?

How does heat from the sun reach the earth?

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#### The Ghost In The Machine

Jan 1, 1970
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In sci.physics, Anomaly Magnetism
<[email protected]>
wrote
Then how does heat travel through empty space?

How does heat from the sun reach the earth?

The same way light does: E-M transverse wave propagation.
Or quasi-corpuscular photons, if you prefer.

Or has someone not heard of "infrared heat"? (The term is
slightly redundant.)

I've not heard specifically of a HASER but the idea is logical enough.
AIUI, infrared lasers are fairly common.

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#### DonJan

Jan 1, 1970
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Then how does heat travel through empty space?

How does heat from the sun reach the earth?

Radiant flux travels through space, is absorbed by a material and the
effect on material is called heat ...

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#### Anomaly Magnetism

Jan 1, 1970
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Then how does heat travel through empty space?

How does heat from the sun reach the earth?

Sorry for the multiple posts.

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