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Gm1234

Jan 1, 1970
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Seems like this group has been invaded by the e-book spammers - Not only
spamming, but also cross-posting to 10 groups.
 
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Evgenij Barsukov

Jan 1, 1970
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Gm1234 said:
Seems like this group has been invaded by the e-book spammers - Not only
spamming, but also cross-posting to 10 groups.

I would not call it a spam, as topic of the book is relevant to
this group and from looking at the table of contents it
appears to be interesting.
One time announcements of production relevant to
news group topic are not prohibited by the chapter. I dont
know about other crossposted groups but from the first
look the list appears relevant.

Regards,
Yevgen
 
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John Fields

Jan 1, 1970
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I would not call it a spam, as topic of the book is relevant to
this group and from looking at the table of contents it
appears to be interesting.

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Whether it's relevant or not is immaterial. What matters is whether
unsolicited commercial announcements are allowed on the newsgroups
to which it was posted. I'm replying from sci.electronics.basics,
and as far as I know, this group's charter prohibits commercial
announcements. Do you have information to the contrary?
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Gm1234

Jan 1, 1970
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Even if the charter of a group allowed a one time announcement, which I
doubt any do, this is NOT a one-time posting.

This guy posted three times in the past 2 days, yesterday about making your
own electricity which apparently was actually about making biodiesel. His
only objective is to sell overpriced e-books.

Spam is Spam - Even if it is related to the groups area of interest.
 
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John Fields

Jan 1, 1970
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Even if the charter of a group allowed a one time announcement, which I
doubt any do, this is NOT a one-time posting.

This guy posted three times in the past 2 days, yesterday about making your
own electricity which apparently was actually about making biodiesel. His
only objective is to sell overpriced e-books.

Spam is Spam - Even if it is related to the groups area of interest.
 
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JeffM

Jan 1, 1970
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Evgenij said:
I would not call it a spam,
as topic of the book is relevant to this group
and from looking at the table of contents it appears to be interesting.
Yevgen
That's one metric.
One time announcements of production relevant to
news group topic are not prohibited by the [charter].
There other parameters that determine what is spam spewing:
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:...t's-good-behaviour+originally-*-*-*-EMPs-only

This one doesn't pass the stink test.
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
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Whether it's relevant or not is immaterial. What matters is whether
unsolicited commercial announcements are allowed on the newsgroups
to which it was posted. I'm replying from sci.electronics.basics,
and as far as I know, this group's charter prohibits commercial
announcements. Do you have information to the contrary?

It was posted to 10 groups which makes it spam by most definitions anyway.

The original isn't on my news server so I guess it was already filtered by them

Graham
 
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Lostgallifreyan

Jan 1, 1970
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Evgenij said:
I would not call it a spam,
as topic of the book is relevant to this group
and from looking at the table of contents it appears to be
interesting.
Yevgen
That's one metric.
One time announcements of production relevant to
news group topic are not prohibited by the [charter].
There other parameters that determine what is spam spewing:
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:P3WQsOttF84J:www.stopspam.org/usenet
/mmf/breidbart.html+Monty.Python+*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-Baked-Beans-*-
*+*-*-*-*-will-*-mark-a-crossposted-article-as-read+Multiposting+Excess
ive-Multi-Posting+*-*-*-*-*-it's-good-behaviour+originally-*-*-*-EMPs-o
nly

This one doesn't pass the stink test.

The first we see of this in sci.electronics.components is this hugely
crossposted reply from jeffm. Without that this clutter might never have
entered the group? So, what EXACTLY is spam? What is the rationale for this
posting??
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Lostgallifreyan said:
The first we see of this in sci.electronics.components is this hugely
crossposted reply from jeffm. Without that this clutter might never have
entered the group? So, what EXACTLY is spam? What is the rationale for this
posting??


Easynews filtered it for you, but the spammer set the cross posts,
and posted it three times in two days. The idea is that you don't have
to open it, or Jeff's message because you already know the thread is
about spam. In fact, if your newsreader has it, you can killfile the
thread and never see any more replies to that thread.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Lostgallifreyan

Jan 1, 1970
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Easynews filtered it for you, but the spammer set the cross posts,
and posted it three times in two days. The idea is that you don't have
to open it, or Jeff's message because you already know the thread is
about spam. In fact, if your newsreader has it, you can killfile the
thread and never see any more replies to that thread.

Thanks. I can ignore it ok, I just thought for a moment that the anti-spam
backlash might be hoist by its own petard, so had to question it. I usually
ignore the spam even without the tools X-news gives me.
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Lostgallifreyan said:
Thanks. I can ignore it ok, I just thought for a moment that the anti-spam
backlash might be hoist by its own petard, so had to question it. I usually
ignore the spam even without the tools X-news gives me.


You can set a single filter for the word "spam", and if someone
reports it, you won't even see their warnings.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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