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Using photonics for real-time processing.

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Radium

Jan 1, 1970
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My dream PC is as hardware, real-time, and digital as possible. In
addition, it uses the least amount of buffering required [hopefully
none] and experiences the least amount of latency possible [again,
hopefully none].
This may be your dream but it may also be a nightmare. You also said
you wanted low power and no fan. If you want a lot of speed, you
really want a good cooling system and a whole lot of power. If you
want to make a faster system with low power, you want to make use of
things like lookup tables and hashes.
Couldn't the problem of excessive heat and large use of power be
solved [or at least mitigated] by using lower voltages while still
running things in real-time [and with the least amount of storage,
software, buffering, and latency possible] and not using fans?
No. It largely can't be avoided. If you have to do your sine function
from first principles and you want speed, you need a huge number of
operations per second.

Do you think the heat generated and power requirements will decrease
when photonic chips are available?

AFAIK, photonic circuits produce less heat than electric circuits.
However I am aware that even when photonics becomes the norm [i.e. if
is does], electricity will still be necessary for power supply.

I am thinking of a purely optical computer that is powered by a main
400 nm laser. The main laser if of course powered by electricity.

This optical PC contains 400 nm lasers but no LEDs. AFAIK, lasers tend
to be more efficient that LEDs.

So do you think a chip based on lasers - instead of electricity - can
be as real-time, hardware, and digital as possible while using the
least amount of buffering required [hopefully none] and experiencing
the least amount of latency possible [again, hopefully none] and at
the same time being high-speed not getting hot enough to need any
cooling equipment?

I think it would be easier to do this in photonics that electronics.
Since electronics seem to easily overheat.
 
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Bob Myers

Jan 1, 1970
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Radium said:
Do you think the heat generated and power requirements will decrease
when photonic chips are available?

If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

Bob M.
 
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SteveH

Jan 1, 1970
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Bob said:
If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

Bob M.

Or he could just stop talking bollocks
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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SteveH said:
Or he could just stop talking bollocks


He would implode. Do you have any idea what kind of mess that would
make?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Stanislaw Flatto

Jan 1, 1970
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Radium said:
I think it would be easier to do this in photonics that electronics.
Since electronics seem to easily overheat.
Any photonic "memory cell" in your design?

Just asking

Stanislaw
 
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Radium

Jan 1, 1970
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If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

An electronic chip uses electricity for storage, recording, playback,
transmission, reception, and processing of signals.

A photonic chip uses monochromatic light [hopefully in the form of
lasers] for storage, recording, playback, transmission, reception, and
processing of signals.

The problem is, how to store photons?
 
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MooseFET

Jan 1, 1970
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He would implode. Do you have any idea what kind of mess that would
make?

No, I disagree. He would explode. It would be an exothermic BS
reaction making more heat than light.
 
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MooseFET

Jan 1, 1970
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If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

An electronic chip uses electricity for storage, recording, playback,
transmission, reception, and processing of signals.

A photonic chip uses monochromatic light [hopefully in the form of
lasers] for storage, recording, playback, transmission, reception, and
processing of signals.

The problem is, how to store photons?


Storing photons directly requires crystals that are supercooled. This
isn't very practical. You really just want to store the information
it contains.

Far less than half the atoms you were made from 10 years ago are still
in your body. You are still you, however. You are the information
encoded in those atoms not the atoms. The same is true of software.
It is not the electrons of photons. It is the bits.
 
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martin griffith

Jan 1, 1970
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If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

An electronic chip uses electricity for storage, recording, playback,
transmission, reception, and processing of signals.

A photonic chip uses monochromatic light [hopefully in the form of
lasers] for storage, recording, playback, transmission, reception, and
processing of signals.

The problem is, how to store photons?


Silver Indium Antimony Tellurium alloy?


martin
 
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Donald

Jan 1, 1970
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martin said:
If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

An electronic chip uses electricity for storage, recording, playback,
transmission, reception, and processing of signals.

A photonic chip uses monochromatic light [hopefully in the form of
lasers] for storage, recording, playback, transmission, reception, and
processing of signals.

The problem is, how to store photons?



Silver Indium Antimony Tellurium alloy?

Yes, but this is a write _only_ solution.

donald
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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MooseFET said:
No, I disagree. He would explode. It would be an exothermic BS
reaction making more heat than light.


I was talking about his vacuum packed head imploding.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

An electronic chip uses electricity for storage, recording, playback,
transmission, reception, and processing of signals.

A photonic chip uses monochromatic light [hopefully in the form of
lasers] for storage, recording, playback, transmission, reception, and
processing of signals.

The problem is, how to store photons?


Storing photons directly requires crystals that are supercooled. This
isn't very practical. You really just want to store the information
it contains.

Far less than half the atoms you were made from 10 years ago are still
in your body.

Don't know about you, but I was made a tad longer than ten years ago.
;-)
You are still you, however. You are the information
encoded in those atoms not the atoms. The same is true of software.
It is not the electrons of photons. It is the bits.

Hmm, maybe the concept of the teleporter isn't so bad....
 
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martin griffith

Jan 1, 1970
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martin said:
If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

An electronic chip uses electricity for storage, recording, playback,
transmission, reception, and processing of signals.

A photonic chip uses monochromatic light [hopefully in the form of
lasers] for storage, recording, playback, transmission, reception, and
processing of signals.

The problem is, how to store photons?



Silver Indium Antimony Tellurium alloy?

Yes, but this is a write _only_ solution.

donald

Sorry, I thought it was a light_only_solution


martin
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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I was talking about his vacuum packed head imploding.

Boy, you never miss an opportunity to cast insults, do you?

It must really suck to be you.

Thanks,
Rich
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

An electronic chip uses electricity for storage, recording, playback,
transmission, reception, and processing of signals.

A photonic chip uses monochromatic light [hopefully in the form of
lasers] for storage, recording, playback, transmission, reception, and
processing of signals.

The problem is, how to store photons?

I keep telling you - you'll have to discover the principles yourself, and
inform the rest of the world how it's done - everybody else thinks it's
impossible.

Good Luck!
Rich
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

An electronic chip uses electricity for storage, recording, playback,
transmission, reception, and processing of signals.

A photonic chip uses monochromatic light [hopefully in the form of
lasers] for storage, recording, playback, transmission, reception, and
processing of signals.

The problem is, how to store photons?

Silver Indium Antimony Tellurium alloy?

Sulfur Hydrogen Iodine Tellurium, I'd think. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Radium

Jan 1, 1970
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Is Asperger's more like autism, or more like Tourette's?

Asperger's resembles autism and ADHD more than anything else. As a
kid, my diagnosis kept swinging from ADD to ADHD to autism, and back
and forth, until the doctors found my symptoms to specifically match
Asperger's.
 
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martin griffith

Jan 1, 1970
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If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

An electronic chip uses electricity for storage, recording, playback,
transmission, reception, and processing of signals.

A photonic chip uses monochromatic light [hopefully in the form of
lasers] for storage, recording, playback, transmission, reception, and
processing of signals.

The problem is, how to store photons?

Silver Indium Antimony Tellurium alloy?

Sulfur Hydrogen Iodine Tellurium, I'd think. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgInSbTe


martin
 
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