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Using photonics for real-time processing.

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Scott Alfter

Jan 1, 1970
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He would implode. Do you have any idea what kind of mess that would
make?

As long as he's nowhere nearby, I don't care. Let him implode. :)

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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Scott said:
As long as he's nowhere nearby, I don't care. Let him implode. :)


You don't want to watch from a safe distance?


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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Bob Myers

Jan 1, 1970
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Michael A. Terrell said:
SteveH wrote:


He would implode. Do you have any idea what kind of mess that would
make?

Not to mention the paperwork that would then be involved....

Bob M.
 
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Bob Myers

Jan 1, 1970
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Radium said:
If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

An electronic chip uses electricity for storage, recording, playback,
transmission, reception, and processing of signals.

A photonic chip uses monochromatic light [hopefully in the form of
lasers] for storage, recording, playback, transmission, reception, and
processing of signals.

That's pretty much the answer I expected from you, given
the obviously superficial level of thought you've put into
this, but please note that the above doesn't even come
close to answering the question I posed. "Operating
principles" means far more than a one-word simple
sentence describing the gross functionality you expect to
provide. You need to say something about HOW.

Bob M.
 
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Bob Myers

Jan 1, 1970
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Hmm, maybe the concept of the teleporter isn't so bad....

Right - now work out the data rates implied by the transporter
concept. You get a truly scary-big number...

Bob M.
 
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Bob Myers

Jan 1, 1970
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Rich Grise said:
Sulfur Hydrogen Iodine Tellurium, I'd think. ;-)

I was thinking more along the lines of resublimated
thiotimoline with unobtainium interconnects, fabricated
on a substrate of dilithium-passivated polymerized
cavorite.

Bob M.
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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Asperger's resembles autism and ADHD more than anything else. As a
kid, my diagnosis kept swinging from ADD to ADHD to autism, and back
and forth, until the doctors found my symptoms to specifically match
Asperger's.

Thanks for the info.

Speaking of ADHD, I think it's basically that the kids are bored shitless
- I had "preschool" in my Mom's lap, with her reading to me. By the time
I got to kindergarten, I was already reading at about a 2nd grade level or
so - I think if they'd have invented ADHD in 1952, I would have been put
on ritalin or something. Thank The Force, nowadays I get to choose my own
drugs. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Don Bowey

Jan 1, 1970
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Right - now work out the data rates implied by the transporter
concept. You get a truly scary-big number...

Data rate and energy use are no problem. Transporters are currently based
on the Radium Theory.

Don
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Bob said:
Not to mention the paperwork that would then be involved....


Paperwork is no problem, as long as it doesn't involve an ISO 9001
audit. I REALLY HATE ISO 9001 audits!



BTW, while I was stationed at Ft Rucker Alabama in the early '70s the
base clinic was overloaded so I had to take another solider to a
civilian doctor off base. I was waiting in the air conditioned waiting
room when two big civilians walked in and saw me in uniform. They headed
straight for me, to pick a fight. I stood up and told them that I was
required by law to tell them that I had been trained by the US Army to
kill with my bare hands, and that I would fight, but that I only fought
to the death.

I glanced at my watch and told them I had to be somewhere in 22
minutes, and had to leave in 10 minutes. I smiled at the moron in the
back and told him to go call the coroner, that his friend would be dead
within seven minutes if he still wanted to fight.

Just then my friend came out of the back and asked what was going
on. I sighed and said, "These morons want me to fight the big one.".
He said, "Oh, God, Not again!". I shrugged and said, "I've already
warned them that I only fight to the death". He turned to look at them
and said, "Dammit! The last time you killed someone, it took us two
full weeks to to the damn paperwork before they let us go!". You should
have seen them trying to get out of the building. It was like Moe and
Curly of the 'Three Stooges' trying to push their way out through a door
that opened in. :)


A good bluff is better than a good fight, any day! :)


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Don said:
Data rate and energy use are no problem. Transporters are currently based
on the Radium Theory.


AKA Science Friction. ;-)


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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MooseFET

Jan 1, 1970
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If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.
An electronic chip uses electricity for storage, recording, playback,
transmission, reception, and processing of signals.
A photonic chip uses monochromatic light [hopefully in the form of
lasers] for storage, recording, playback, transmission, reception, and
processing of signals.
The problem is, how to store photons?
Storing photons directly requires crystals that are supercooled. This
isn't very practical. You really just want to store the information
it contains.
Far less than half the atoms you were made from 10 years ago are still
in your body.

Don't know about you, but I was made a tad longer than ten years ago.

The universe was created May 24,1997 including us complete with what
appear to be memories of a time before that.

[....]
Hmm, maybe the concept of the teleporter isn't so bad....

It would be more like a fax machine. You'd end up with extra copies.
 
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MooseFET

Jan 1, 1970
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I was thinking more along the lines of resublimated
thiotimoline with unobtainium interconnects, fabricated
on a substrate of dilithium-passivated polymerized
cavorite.

Ambihelical crystals of cororite-319 and delerium make a better
substrate for the creation of the rectubular structures.
 
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The little lost angel

Jan 1, 1970
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Using the optical equivalents of the electric stuff in electronic
chips.

You're not getting it. Stating the HOW means sufficient detail that
somebody can actually follow your steps to create such a machine.
Alluding to som unproven equivalents does not make HOW.

What you are saying is the equivalent of me claiming to know how to
build a superluminal space craft by using the superluminal equivalents
of the subluminal stuff in spacecrafts. Which is basically garbage.
 
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Bob Myers

Jan 1, 1970
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Radium said:
Using the optical equivalents of the electric stuff in electronic
chips.

That's a start. And what ARE those, exactly? Or
is your understanding of this on the same level as
that you've exhibited regarding the "electric stuff"?


Bob M.
 
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Bob Myers

Jan 1, 1970
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Ambihelical crystals of cororite-319 and delerium make a better
substrate for the creation of the rectubular structures.

Perhaps, but I would then worry about the resistance
of such structures to long-term exposure to Cochrane
radiation in transverse bimodal warp fields of the sort
which will be needed for the hyperoscillating photonic
buffer stabilization. I suppose next you'll want to suggest
ionized frijolium as a buffering agent instead, but if so, I
would have to remind you how well THAT sort of thing
held up during the last Kreelak invasion. You continue
to propose this kind of nonsense, and all your base will
belong to us.

Bob M.
 
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R. Steve Walz

Jan 1, 1970
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Radium said:
If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

An electronic chip uses electricity for storage, recording, playback,
transmission, reception, and processing of signals.

A photonic chip uses monochromatic light [hopefully in the form of
lasers] for storage, recording, playback, transmission, reception, and
processing of signals.

The problem is, how to store photons?
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You see, this is why this kind of question only appears on newbie
groups, *.basics etc., and that is because it is a common misconception
that such things are directly convertible. The problem with photons is
that we don't have gates that work with them, and they must be converted
to electronic signals each time to run them through electronic gates
to peform processing and then need to be converted back to photons to
send across the chip. This makes the chip many many times the size
required, which is NOT a benefit. Also, the conversion is slower than
just sending them by electronics!! And all lasers, even solid state
ones now are signficantly larger than tiny electronics. There would be
no benefit unless lasers could be pumped in from outside, like power and
ground, and unless there were direct photonic gates that were do-able,
which last I looked was only so using tiny Fabry-Perot interferometers!

-Steve
 
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Radium

Jan 1, 1970
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You see, this is why this kind of question only appears on newbie
groups, *.basics etc., and that is because it is a common misconception
that such things are directly convertible. The problem with photons is
that we don't have gates that work with them, and they must be converted
to electronic signals each time to run them through electronic gates
to peform processing and then need to be converted back to photons to
send across the chip. This makes the chip many many times the size
required, which is NOT a benefit. Also, the conversion is slower than
just sending them by electronics!! And all lasers, even solid state
ones now are signficantly larger than tiny electronics. There would be
no benefit unless lasers could be pumped in from outside, like power and
ground, and unless there were direct photonic gates that were do-able,
which last I looked was only so using tiny Fabry-Perot interferometers!

What if the photonic PC is purely optical and is powered by a main 400
nm laser and this main laser is powered by electricity?
 
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JackShepherd

Jan 1, 1970
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He would implode. Do you have any idea what kind of mess that would
make?


This time, you're the idiot (again). There are memory arrays being
made now that have no electrical connection to them at all. They are
manipulated by light on the molecular level, and read by light. They
stand to make OC768 infrastructures look like child's play. Less and
less electrical pathways are the goal with fiber optics.

All you have to do, idiot, is read your weekly copy of EE Times.
 
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JackShepherd

Jan 1, 1970
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martin said:
If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

An electronic chip uses electricity for storage, recording, playback,
transmission, reception, and processing of signals.

A photonic chip uses monochromatic light [hopefully in the form of
lasers] for storage, recording, playback, transmission, reception, and
processing of signals.

The problem is, how to store photons?



Silver Indium Antimony Tellurium alloy?

Yes, but this is a write _only_ solution.

If one cannot READ it, then it is NOT memory.
 
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