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JackShepherd

Jan 1, 1970
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If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

An electronic chip uses electricity for storage, recording, playback,
transmission, reception, and processing of signals.

A photonic chip uses monochromatic light [hopefully in the form of
lasers] for storage, recording, playback, transmission, reception, and
processing of signals.

The problem is, how to store photons?

I keep telling you - you'll have to discover the principles yourself, and
inform the rest of the world how it's done - everybody else thinks it's
impossible.


When was the last time you read a copy of EE Times?

You only speak for you.
 
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JackShepherd

Jan 1, 1970
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Radium said:
If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

An electronic chip uses electricity for storage, recording, playback,
transmission, reception, and processing of signals.

A photonic chip uses monochromatic light [hopefully in the form of
lasers] for storage, recording, playback, transmission, reception, and
processing of signals.

That's pretty much the answer I expected from you, given
the obviously superficial level of thought you've put into
this, but please note that the above doesn't even come
close to answering the question I posed. "Operating
principles" means far more than a one-word simple
sentence describing the gross functionality you expect to
provide. You need to say something about HOW.

Bob M.
You've never heard of holographic memory arrays?

When was the last time you read a copy of EE Times?
 
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SteveH

Jan 1, 1970
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Rich said:
Is Asperger's more like autism, or more like Tourette's?

Thanks,
Rich

What's that got to do with talking bollocks?

SteveH
 
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martin griffith

Jan 1, 1970
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martin said:
On 24 May 2007 06:11:23 -0700, in sci.electronics.design Radium




If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

An electronic chip uses electricity for storage, recording, playback,
transmission, reception, and processing of signals.

A photonic chip uses monochromatic light [hopefully in the form of
lasers] for storage, recording, playback, transmission, reception, and
processing of signals.

The problem is, how to store photons?



Silver Indium Antimony Tellurium alloy?

Yes, but this is a write _only_ solution.

If one cannot READ it, then it is NOT memory.


http://academics.vmi.edu/ee_js/Research/IC_Datasheets/digital_cmos/Write Only Memory.pdf


martin
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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JackShepherd said:
When was the last time you read a copy of EE Times?


That must be your favorite porn magazine. You sure seem to get off
on it.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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JackShepherd

Jan 1, 1970
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martin griffith wrote:
On 24 May 2007 06:11:23 -0700, in sci.electronics.design Radium




If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

An electronic chip uses electricity for storage, recording, playback,
transmission, reception, and processing of signals.

A photonic chip uses monochromatic light [hopefully in the form of
lasers] for storage, recording, playback, transmission, reception, and
processing of signals.

The problem is, how to store photons?



Silver Indium Antimony Tellurium alloy?

Yes, but this is a write _only_ solution.

If one cannot READ it, then it is NOT memory.


http://academics.vmi.edu/ee_js/Research/IC_Datasheets/digital_cmos/Write Only Memory.pdf

Calling it "write only" is a misnomer, at best. Especially by today's
standards.

If it is written to, but never read from, it has no function. If one
checks it to see if the "write" step was successful, then it has been
read.
 
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JackShepherd

Jan 1, 1970
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That must be your favorite porn magazine. You sure seem to get off
on it.

No. However, seeing you in one of your wrong moments has entertainment
value.
 
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MooseFET

Jan 1, 1970
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What's that got to do with talking bollocks?

Someone with Aspergers won't understand that it is bollocks until they
find their own way to dal with the subject. Someone with Tourettes
will know that it is bollocks but not be able to stop themselves from
saying them.

As you can see it makes a huge difference. In the Aspergers case, it
may be best to try again on explaining the subject. Perhaps you will
hit on the formulation that works. In the Tourettes case, you are
best to ignore the outbursts and try to stay with the main thread of
the discussion.
 
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Bob Myers

Jan 1, 1970
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JackShepherd said:
You've never heard of holographic memory arrays?

Yes, I have. A "holographic" memory array is hardly an example
of something that demonstrates the principles required for the
full system that our "friend" Radium seems to be envisioning
here. Or are you under the impression that "memory arrays" perform
"processing"?
When was the last time you read a copy of EE Times?

I'm a bit late on this week's issue, since my copy would be back
in the office and I've been at a tech conference all week. Now,
please permit me to ask a question - are you usually in the habit
of coming in late to threads such as this one, taking them far more
seriously than they could possibly deserve, and spouting such
nonsense (apparently with the primary motivation being the
demostration of your own possession of a copy of an industry
journal)? I ask simply because I want to know whether or not to
killfile you now, or if you intend to actually contribute something of
worth to the group at some point in the future.

Bob M.
 
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Don Bowey

Jan 1, 1970
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Yes, I have. A "holographic" memory array is hardly an example
of something that demonstrates the principles required for the
full system that our "friend" Radium seems to be envisioning
here. Or are you under the impression that "memory arrays" perform
"processing"?


I'm a bit late on this week's issue, since my copy would be back
in the office and I've been at a tech conference all week. Now,
please permit me to ask a question - are you usually in the habit
of coming in late to threads such as this one, taking them far more
seriously than they could possibly deserve, and spouting such
nonsense (apparently with the primary motivation being the
demostration of your own possession of a copy of an industry
journal)? I ask simply because I want to know whether or not to
killfile you now, or if you intend to actually contribute something of
worth to the group at some point in the future.

Bob M.

Good post. I was too lazy to say it, but you said it all, and very well.

Don
 
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SteveH

Jan 1, 1970
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MooseFET said:
Someone with Aspergers won't understand that it is bollocks until they
find their own way to dal with the subject. Someone with Tourettes
will know that it is bollocks but not be able to stop themselves from
saying them.

As you can see it makes a huge difference. In the Aspergers case, it
may be best to try again on explaining the subject. Perhaps you will
hit on the formulation that works. In the Tourettes case, you are
best to ignore the outbursts and try to stay with the main thread of
the discussion.

Hmmmm..
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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JackShepherd said:
martin griffith wrote:
On 24 May 2007 06:11:23 -0700, in sci.electronics.design Radium




If you can describe just what you mean by "photonic
chips" and the principles on which such things might
operate, then maybe that question would be more readily
answered.

An electronic chip uses electricity for storage, recording, playback,
transmission, reception, and processing of signals.

A photonic chip uses monochromatic light [hopefully in the form of
lasers] for storage, recording, playback, transmission, reception, and
processing of signals.

The problem is, how to store photons?



Silver Indium Antimony Tellurium alloy?

Yes, but this is a write _only_ solution.


If one cannot READ it, then it is NOT memory.


http://academics.vmi.edu/ee_js/Research/IC_Datasheets/digital_cmos/Write Only Memory.pdf

Calling it "write only" is a misnomer, at best. Especially by today's
standards.

If it is written to, but never read from, it has no function. If one
checks it to see if the "write" step was successful, then it has been
read.


Damn, you're thick! You are the first moron that I've ever heard of
who can't see that it was a joke. It was an 'April Fools Day' joke from
Signetics in 1972, and a VERY well known classic. I guess that you've
never learned to read a datasheet because you spend too much time in the
bathroom with the EE Times?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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JackShepherd said:
No. However, seeing you in one of your wrong moments has entertainment
value.


Really? You sure made a fool of yourself with that Signetics data
sheet. Even the kids at the Vocational Electronics I mentored course
got it.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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martin griffith

Jan 1, 1970
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On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:35:08 GMT, in sci.electronics.design "Michael
A. Terrell said:
Damn, you're thick! You are the first moron that I've ever heard of
who can't see that it was a joke. It was an 'April Fools Day' joke from
Signetics in 1972, and a VERY well known classic. I guess that you've
never learned to read a datasheet because you spend too much time in the
bathroom with the EE Times?

Is the EE times any good as a replacement for anal cleansing lamina?


martin
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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martin said:
On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:35:08 GMT, in sci.electronics.design "Michael


Is the EE times any good as a replacement for anal cleansing lamina?

martin


You put it on the floor and set your pet on it. if it glances down
and sees what its standing on it will walk off the EE Times and crap on
the floor.

As far as toilet paper, those glossy pages are full of clay and can
cut you, if you're not careful.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Radium

Jan 1, 1970
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I wish I knew. My guess is, it would contain optical components that
are analogous to the electric components of electronic PCs.
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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I wish I knew. My guess is, it would contain optical components that
are analogous to the electric components of electronic PCs.

You do realize that photons don't interact with each others, as
opposed to electrons.
 
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Robert Myers

Jan 1, 1970
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You do realize that photons don't interact with each others, as
opposed to electrons.

Check with your local field theorist before trying this at home.

Robert.
 
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