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George Siegle

Jan 1, 1970
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How many Cities have tried Verified Response and then found B&E's went up or have cancelled the Verified Response program?


And just how busy do you think the police would be if ALL of us said for one day: "We will not call anyone when the alarm goes off?"
 
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Joe

Jan 1, 1970
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George said:
How many Cities have tried Verified Response and then found B&E's went up or have cancelled the Verified Response program?


And just how busy do you think the police would be if ALL of us said for one day: "We will not call anyone when the alarm goes off?"
if you mean calling the premise to verify, I thought everybody does that.
 
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Bob Worthy

Jan 1, 1970
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one day: "We will not call anyone when the alarm goes off?"
if you mean calling the premise to verify, I thought everybody does that.

The term "verified response" is being used by municipalities that have a
sensitive political flavor within the community. What it really means in "no
response". They don't want their citizens to go ballistic. They will
respond, but only after someone else goes first (guard company) and then
calls if there is a problem, hence "verifying" prior to response.

There are more cities than you want to think about that have gone to some
sort of verified response. SIAC has statistics about the crime rate
question. If you talk to them, which I tend to lean towards their standing
on the issue since they are joined at the hip with the IACP, they will tell
you that crime has escalated dramatically in these cities. If you talk to
the cities, again for political reasons, they will tell you every thing in
great. It is great because they have cut their budget so they look like
heroes while shuffling the paperwork to hide the rising crime rate.
 
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Bob Worthy

Jan 1, 1970
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RLB wrote in message
Probably few to none.

That is correct. However, over the years of gathering statistics from both
sides, public pressure and with new local government administrations, there
are those that are reconsidering their decission about going to verified
response including Salt Lake City, which I believe was the first to go to
VR.
Much less busy than usual. The fact is police waste a lot of precious time
responding to false alarms. The solution isn't to fight city hall but to find
ways to reduce false dispatches.

There is no such thing as a false dispatch. Unnecessary dispatch maybe.
Verified response is one way to reduce false
dispatches. The problem is it makes it almost impossible to catch anyone in
the act.

Not to mention putting the runners in harms way
 
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Joe

Jan 1, 1970
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Bob said:
one day: "We will not call anyone when the alarm goes off?"

The term "verified response" is being used by municipalities that have a
sensitive political flavor within the community. What it really means in "no
response". They don't want their citizens to go ballistic. They will
respond, but only after someone else goes first (guard company) and then
calls if there is a problem, hence "verifying" prior to response.

There are more cities than you want to think about that have gone to some
sort of verified response. SIAC has statistics about the crime rate
question. If you talk to them, which I tend to lean towards their standing
on the issue since they are joined at the hip with the IACP, they will tell
you that crime has escalated dramatically in these cities. If you talk to
the cities, again for political reasons, they will tell you every thing in
great. It is great because they have cut their budget so they look like
heroes while shuffling the paperwork to hide the rising crime rate.
hell, whattaya need a cop for by then, just call your insurance agent.
 
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tourman

Jan 1, 1970
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RHC: Here's one for the books, and this is a true story. Recently a
local alarm dealer called the police when he heard a couple of kids
breaking into his garage. As unbelievable as it sounds, they told him
they had no squad car available, and he should just file a report the
next morning. After he hung up, he thought about it for a bit, got
angry, and then called 911. He said something to the effect ...:"
there are a couple of thugs breaking into my garage, and you better
get over here right away before they get shot"... Within a minute of
two, there were FIVE squad cars at his home, cherries going, lighting
up the neighborhood like a midway circus.

They caught the kids all right, then gave him a LOT of trouble over
it. It seems he missed getting arrested for mischief, or some some
charge, by the skin of his teeth....

You really have to wonder where their priorities lie......

Naah. By the time a runner arrives the thief has left and the goods
have
 
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Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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We had a break-in at a warehouse last week. We did everything we were
contracted to...we dispatched pd, then called the building owner who told us
to cancel dispatch and he was gonna go. He did, but he didn't go inside
(good thing). He didn't notice the broken window because it was dark and he
just drove around the outside of the building...then went home. At 8am the
owner's partner calls in and is pissed because they got broken into and the
police didn't go...hah! So I ran over there with my cs report, did a system
check etc.

It really was a good thing the partner that responded did NOT go inside
because the burglars were still inside.

Why did he cancel dispatch?...because he was afraid of false alarm fine.
Bare in mind we've protected this place for 10 years now and we've NEVER had
an unexplained false alarm...any we had were all user error.

I got to sell them a new exterior fire gong...idiot burlars ripped it
down...red for fire.

SHEESH.



--
**Crash Gordon**
 
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Bob Worthy

Jan 1, 1970
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news.giganews.com said:
I knew there was something we could agree on. :)

Actually, we agree on many things. I just don't find it necessary to comment
on something you add to the NG in which I agree. It is when I don't agree
with what you posts that I comment and that usually frost your balls.
 
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Bob Worthy

Jan 1, 1970
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Joe said:
hell, whattaya need a cop for by then, just call your insurance agent.

Hence, public pressure starts to rise and the revisiting of the city's
ordinance becomes a reality.
 
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Jim

Jan 1, 1970
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You're wrong again. �I disagree with almost everything you post. �I just don't
bother saying so.

Now you get the point.

I disagree and would disagree with everything you say .... even if I
didn't and I wouldn't hesitate a minute to say so and in the process
tell you to drop fucking dead too.
I couldn't care less what you think. �As to my balls, you'll justhave to
guess. �I'm not Olson so you're not likely to get near them.

Even if you ever had any balls, (and considering your fucked up life,
you don't) you haven't seen them or been able to reach them for so
many years .... you wouldn't be able to tell now anyway.

And Oh yeah, Drop fucking dead ..... soon.
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert said:
I'm not Olson so you're not likely to get near them.

Note to RHC: Maybe I "buried the hatchet" in the wrong place. :)
 
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Bob Worthy

Jan 1, 1970
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"Robert L Bass" > wrote in message
You're wrong again. I disagree with almost everything you post. I just don't
bother saying so.

Let me see.... If I don't post, to that of which I agree, and you only
disagree with what I do post, what is it that make me wrong? Further proof
that you are naturally confrontational.
I couldn't care less what you think.

You couldn't care less what anyone thinks. Again, that is just your
personality.
As to my balls, you'll just have to
guess.

My guess is that you never had any until you found NG's.
 
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Jim

Jan 1, 1970
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"Robert L Bass" > wrote in message





Let me see.... If I don't post, to that of which I agree, and you only
disagree with what I do post, what is it that make me wrong? Further proof
that you are naturally confrontational.





You couldn't care less what anyone thinks. Again, that is just your
personality.


My guess is that you never had any until you found NG's.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

My thoughts exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The bispecticled fat little kid who always volunteered for hall
monitor duty, hiding behind teachers skirt.
 
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