very basic question

[John]

On a computer 3 pronged mains plug, which is L, N and G?

 

[Phil Allison]

"John"

On a computer 3 pronged mains plug, which is L, N and G?

** What ambiguous drivel.

PCs use IEC leads with a female plug at the PC end - so no prongs.





........ Phil

 

[John]

"John"



** What ambiguous drivel.

PCs use IEC leads with a female plug at the PC end - so no prongs.

You've been a great help.

I was looking for something like this:

http://www.rayheffer.com/iec.shtml

 

[Phil Allison]

"John"
"Phil Allison"

You've been a great help.

I was looking for something like this:

http://www.rayheffer.com/iec.shtml

** Really ???


The FUCKING IMBECILE who wrote that has it backwards !!!

IEC kettle plugs are C13 or FEMALE !!

So are the IEC plugs on all general purpose IEC leads.


Piss offffffffffff .



....... Phil

 

[Kevin Martin]

You've been a great help.

I was looking for something like this:

http://www.rayheffer.com/iec.shtml

Or this

http://www.accesscomms.com.au/reference/reference_draw.htm

Kevin Martin

 

[Phil Allison]

"John"

On a computer 3 pronged mains plug, which is L, N and G?

** Looking at the IEC female plug, with the earth pin uppermost,

then from left to right it is : Neutral - Earth - Active.

The IEC female plug is known as a C13.

It is " female " because it has sockets, not pins !!

That idiotic web page you found from some half witted compewter geek
got everything 100 % dead WRONG.

The imbecile who wrote it does not even know male from female.


IMPORTANT:

The IEC male socket ( aka C14) must NEVER be attached to the end of a AC
power cord - since that creates a 100% LETHAL male to male lead.




........ Phil

 

[aussiblu]

see http://www.electronics2000.co.uk/data/pinout/iec.htm

 

[Phil Allison]

"aussiblu"

see http://www.electronics2000.co.uk/data/pinout/iec.htm

** Yet AGAIN - the site is TOTALLY WRONG !!!

Fucking *compewter * geeks MORONS cannot tell male from female or a plug
from a damn socket.

Lucky rewirable IEC connectors ARE actually marked with L N and E !!






........ Phil

 

[aussiblu]

I thought you would be amused.

 

[aussiblu]

PS and yes I didn't notice until you pointed it out. It is
actually very hard to find a correct and clear IEC plug and
socket wiring guide on the net.

 

[aussiblu]

Hopefully the rewirable connectors are not being made in China
by someone using a web site as a labelling guide though.

 

[aussiblu]

And if you do a Google image search for "IEC plug" or "IEC
socket" even those selling them mix the terms around 50% of the
time. So much for IEC being a standard.

 

[Phil Allison]

"aussiblu"

I thought you would be amused.

** Sadist !!



........ Phil ;-)

 

[Phil Allison]

"aussiblu"

PS and yes I didn't notice until you pointed it out. It is
actually very hard to find a correct and clear IEC plug and
socket wiring guide on the net.

** If you find one - post it.




........ Phil

 

[aussiblu]

So is Wikipedia wrong here too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60320

 

[aussiblu]

So from this http://www.accesscomms.com.au/reference/IEC320.htm
"A set of thirteen plugs (called the connector in the
specification) and thirteen matching sockets (called the
appliance inlet) are defined by specification IEC 60320. A set
of 11 connectors/appliance-inlets are defined in specification
AS/NZS 60320.1:2004."

perhaps we should be referring to "appliance inlets" and
"connectors" rather than plugs and sockets and males and females
when talking IEC.

I look forward to someone with the appropriate expertise
confirming the correct term usage.

 

[aussiblu]

I have actually contacted the sites and asked the question. The
first site mentioned (Ray Heffer) has contacted me and removed
the page.

 

[Phil Allison]

"aussiblu"

And if you do a Google image search for "IEC plug" or "IEC
socket" even those selling them mix the terms around 50% of the
time. So much for IEC being a standard.

** The problem seems to be with the meaning of the terms " plug" and "socket
".

The common IEC C13 " plug " is a female connector - for obvious safety
reasons. It *plugs* into a mating socket which is male, since it has
pins.

The way most makers have long described connectors like these is to
completely AVOID the use of " plug " and " socket" .

Instead, the terms " line male" or "line female" are used for ones that
attach to cables & " panel male " or " panel female" for the ones that
mount on equipment.

This pretty much eliminates the ambiguity of " plug " and " socket " -
for most people that is.

There is no accounting for autistic IT geeks lacking even one scintilla of
common sense or it seems the basics of the "birds and bees" .




...... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"aussiblu"

I have actually contacted the sites and asked the question. The
first site mentioned (Ray Heffer) has contacted me and removed
the page.

** Nice work.

No need to program a cruise missile after all.



....... Phil

 

[Mr.T]

So is Wikipedia wrong here too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60320

Firstly it can't really be wrong since no connection details are given.
Secondly why would anyone trust Wikipedia anyway? Sometimes it might be
right of course, but knowing when it is frequently wrong is the problem. And
if you are already sure, why bother looking?

MrT.