# Want to hire PIC programmer for quick job

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#### Howard Covitz

Jan 1, 1970
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I need a VERY simple PIC project done but I am not an engineer. I do
know it is a simple project because I have read accounts of how it is
done, I just can't translate that into actually DOING it for myself.
I know it uses the PIC model 12C508A.
So, my first question is, how should I go about hiring someone for
this job? I think it would require less than a day's work for an
engineer.
I do not want to pay more than I have to.
Second, what should I expect to pay for such a job?
Finally, anyone here interested in it?

Send private inquiries to [email protected]

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#### Clint Sharp

Jan 1, 1970
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Howard said:
I need a VERY simple PIC project done but I am not an engineer. I do
know it is a simple project because I have read accounts of how it is
done, I just can't translate that into actually DOING it for myself.
I know it uses the PIC model 12C508A.
So, my first question is, how should I go about hiring someone for
this job? I think it would require less than a day's work for an
engineer.
I do not want to pay more than I have to.
Second, what should I expect to pay for such a job?
Finally, anyone here interested in it?

Send private inquiries to [email protected]
Stands back and waits for the smoke.......

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#### CFoley1064

Jan 1, 1970
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Subject: Want to hire PIC programmer for quick job
From: [email protected] (Howard Covitz)
Date: 6/20/2004 1:55 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id: <[email protected]>

I need a VERY simple PIC project done but I am not an engineer. I do
know it is a simple project because I have read accounts of how it is
done, I just can't translate that into actually DOING it for myself.
I know it uses the PIC model 12C508A.
So, my first question is, how should I go about hiring someone for
this job? I think it would require less than a day's work for an
engineer.
I do not want to pay more than I have to.
Second, what should I expect to pay for such a job?
Finally, anyone here interested in it?

Send private inquiries to [email protected]

Hi, Howard. You might get better results if you offer something in the way of
a description of what you want done. You also might get opinions on whether
you require an engineer at all, or just a tech or a hobbyist who's got a bit of
a homebrew ICE and a programmer. If it's that simple, you might not need an
engineer. But if you've got an electronics project that requires real thought
instead of just "turning the crank", where you want to hire someone who will
commit to thinking it through, getting the whole job done, and guaranteeing
that your solution will work, you should employ an engineer.

Typically, engineers I've worked with and for will charge $75.00 to$250.00 per
hour and up for side jobs or contract work, depending on their qualifications
and level of expertise. If you really need one, that's a bargain.

Good luck
Chris

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#### Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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CFoley1064 said:
Hi, Howard. You might get better results if you offer something in the way of
a description of what you want done. You also might get opinions on whether
you require an engineer at all, or just a tech or a hobbyist who's got a bit of
a homebrew ICE and a programmer. If it's that simple, you might not need an
engineer. But if you've got an electronics project that requires real thought
instead of just "turning the crank", where you want to hire someone who will
commit to thinking it through, getting the whole job done, and guaranteeing
that your solution will work, you should employ an engineer.

Typically, engineers I've worked with and for will charge $75.00 to$250.00 per
hour and up for side jobs or contract work, depending on their qualifications
and level of expertise. If you really need one, that's a bargain.

I can do that, and since one of my hats is "Tech Writer," I can even sit
down and write a spec with you. But without more information, it'd be stupid
to offer a quote. "I can name that tune in 4 notes..."

Cheers!
Rich

To make a real email, take the spam dump [email protected] and
elide ard

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#### Howard Covitz

Jan 1, 1970
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The project involves modifying an off-the-shelf 24 hr. quartz analog
clock movement by means of inserting a PIC which will speed up the
movement by, for example, 0.03% (so you end up with, instead of a 24
hour rotation of the hour hand, a 23 hr 56 min rotation). I know of
at least one instance where someone did this, and even have a
detailed, if difficult to follow (for someone not familiar with PIC
programming) step by step guide as to how he did it (using a PIC
12C508A).
Since I will be using the fruits of this labor for a commercial
product, I feel it is only proper that I reimburse someone for their
help.
An ideal candidate would reside in the New England area, although the
project could succeed via correspondence, as well.

If anyone is interested, please send private inquiries to
[email protected]

Thanks for the feedback from those who have already given it.

And, by the way, I'm not averse to learning digital electronics and
PIC programming, I just have my hands tied with the other elements of
product design and marketing and I'd like to get this to market as
soon as possible. (I do have a couple Myke Predko books waiting for
me, someday...)

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#### Clint Sharp

Jan 1, 1970
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Howard said:
The project involves modifying an off-the-shelf 24 hr. quartz analog
clock movement by means of inserting a PIC which will speed up the
movement by, for example, 0.03% (so you end up with, instead of a 24
hour rotation of the hour hand, a 23 hr 56 min rotation). I know of
at least one instance where someone did this, and even have a
detailed, if difficult to follow (for someone not familiar with PIC
programming) step by step guide as to how he did it (using a PIC
12C508A).
If it's just a fixed offset then you should be able to change the
crystal, there's only one or two in use AFAIK, 4.194304 MHz and
32.768KHz. If you are intending to modify many of them, this may work
out cheaper (only two pins to solder) than having to program PIC chips,
solder them in, test them etc..

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#### Tim Auton

Jan 1, 1970
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The project involves modifying an off-the-shelf 24 hr. quartz analog
clock movement by means of inserting a PIC which will speed up the
movement by, for example, 0.03% (so you end up with, instead of a 24
hour rotation of the hour hand, a 23 hr 56 min rotation).

Sidereal time?

Tim

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#### hamilton

Jan 1, 1970
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Howard said:
The project involves modifying an off-the-shelf 24 hr. quartz analog
clock movement by means of inserting a PIC which will speed up the
movement by, for example, 0.03% (so you end up with, instead of a 24
hour rotation of the hour hand, a 23 hr 56 min rotation). I know of
at least one instance where someone did this, and even have a

I am not interested in bidding on your product,
but I would like to get the other project details.

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#### Dr Engelbert Buxbaum

Jan 1, 1970
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Howard said:
The project involves modifying an off-the-shelf 24 hr. quartz analog
clock movement by means of inserting a PIC which will speed up the
movement by, for example, 0.03% (so you end up with, instead of a 24
hour rotation of the hour hand, a 23 hr 56 min rotation).

Wouldn't it be easier to solder a variable capacitor in parallel with
the clock's quarz in order to tweak it a little (in fact, there may be a

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#### John Fields

Jan 1, 1970
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Wouldn't it be easier to solder a variable capacitor in parallel with
the clock's quarz in order to tweak it a little (in fact, there may be a

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To get the hands to move as much in 23 hours and 56 minutes (86,160
seconds) as they would in 24 hours (86,400 seconds) means that the
32768Hz crystal driving the clock would have to be speeded up by
0.02786% (240 extra seconds every 86,160 seconds) to about 33,680.9696
Hz. Putting a capacitor across the crystal would only slow it down,
and I'm pretty sure that even completely removing any existing cap
would more likely cause it to stop oscillating than to get anywhere
near 33681Hz.

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#### DaveC

Jan 1, 1970
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Sidereal time?

Will the OP please chime in and tell us what the purpose of the product is?

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