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# Who Here is into Arduino & Raspberry Pi. Are You Also Serious About Electronics?

#### John R Retired

Mar 13, 2022
43
Underlying these questions is the significance TODAY of these Microcontroller devices,
compared to the significance of Pure Electronics, although they are related.

In other words, a lot of non-electronics people are into Arduino project "Making", with minimal
electronics knowledge and are focused on the software programming of the Microcontrollers
rather than "electronics" design and circuit design per se'

Also, other than the Hobby aspect, which road of pursuit would allow you to make some extra money,
(creating new devices) and spending your valuable time on the bench?

People who are financially set and have lots of free time to casually pursue "Hobby fun", much like
some people pursue gardening, need not reply.

#### Bluejets

Oct 5, 2014
5,885
Also, other than the Hobby aspect, which road of pursuit would allow you to make some extra money,

I think you have asked this previously and the same answers apply to micros.

#### John R Retired

Mar 13, 2022
43
I think you have asked this previously and the same answers apply to micros.

It would seem that the answers would be different since Microcontrollers are more advanced and contemporary than regular electronics, and are software - programming based, which opens up more possibilities than hard wired electronics circuits.
More "possibilities"..

#### Bluejets

Oct 5, 2014
5,885
You asked, I replied, then you argue the outcome, typical kia

#### John R Retired

Mar 13, 2022
43
My apologies for not accepting your reply as the final and indisputable conclusion on the subject.

#### Bob Heisenberg

Apr 10, 2022
2
So basically anyone who uses a raspberry pi for embedded system use, especaily industrial control systems requiring high reliabilty and fail safe functions is a charletan who I would fire almost immediatly, I hope that answers your question.

#### Bob Heisenberg

Apr 10, 2022
2
The problem is that people use the raspberry pi in all its really poorly implemented versions in embedded systems because they get taught by computer science professors who havent worked in industry for 20 years or more the old CS mantra " All embedded systems MUST have an operating system and that operating system MUST be a full blown version of linux" Having worked in embedded systems design for over 25 years Ive yet to see a convincing argument for why you would want to run linux on an embedded system over some other posssible solution.

Underlying these questions is the significance TODAY of these Microcontroller devices,
compared to the significance of Pure Electronics, although they are related.

In other words, a lot of non-electronics people are into Arduino project "Making", with minimal
electronics knowledge and are focused on the software programming of the Microcontrollers
rather than "electronics" design and circuit design per se'

Also, other than the Hobby aspect, which road of pursuit would allow you to make some extra money,
(creating new devices) and spending your valuable time on the bench?

People who are financially set and have lots of free time to casually pursue "Hobby fun", much like
some people pursue gardening, need not reply.

#### kellys_eye

Jun 25, 2010
4,882
Also, other than the Hobby aspect, which road of pursuit would allow you to make some extra money,
(creating new devices) and spending your valuable time on the bench?
There are those that do this for a living but they are often 'known' within the industry as people you can rely on to create app-specific programs and/or interface to simple sensors to either repair an existing system that no longer has spares available OR create adaptations to existing systems to improve efficiency.

Programming skills often come a distant second to the creation of the 'idea' that needs a solution - just try to think of something that isn't already developed! More often the 'solution' is for a one-off issue rather than for mass production. The one occasion I recall someone making a device (Arduino) for retail use was to program i.d. codes into VHF radio sets (marine GMDSS units with DSC) and he developed it for a company he was working for and was paid 'per' on a sold basis. Even then, it's a very specific market and he wouldn't ever achieve 'wealth' by the result. He did get a lot of kudos for his efforts though.

I understand that people have a desire to put their practical knowledge to use (income) but you have to be very on-the-ball, up-to-date and resourceful to get into electronics as a market and most of the time being a part of a specific target market is the only way to achieve this i.e. I'm in the marine market (mostly) so can target that area easily - it's lucrative!

#### roughshawd

Jul 13, 2020
194
I am the independent researcher. The mux of the sitrep is like this. All devices are designed to do a certain job. That means that each is its own functioning part. When you try to eat an apple with the core, you have to remember that some appleseeds have more cyanide in them than others, and you might feel ill. (PLURAL) So in the condition that a system has a body, a mind and a fuel source, it isn't really a simple device anymore is it? I have been trying to figure this one out for most of my life, and this is the second time I have caught you following me around! heh heh haha hahahah hohohoho hahahhaha!!! I would say that I am serious about electronics, but that doesn't mean I am perfect, and it looks like I might goof up now and again. Look at it this way. The world is turning eastward, everywhere, but the right hand rule says that the power only goes in one direction in the coil, what if I point my thumb Westward? what then>??

#### Bluejets

Oct 5, 2014
5,885
The world is turning eastward, everywhere, but the right hand rule says that the power only goes in one direction in the coil, what if I point my thumb Westward? what then>??

Then it's a motor....

#### kellys_eye

Jun 25, 2010
4,882
and this is the second time I have caught you following me around!
If you want to hide then going elsewhere than a public forum is the way to do it.

I can't figure you (or your intent) out. Much of what you post is 'gibberish' and not conducive to forming a proper response - such as:

All devices are designed to do a certain job. That means that each is its own functioning part. When you try to eat an apple with the core, you have to remember that some appleseeds have more cyanide in them than others, and you might feel ill. (PLURAL) So in the condition that a system has a body, a mind and a fuel source, it isn't really a simple device anymore is it? I have been trying to figure this one out for most of my life,

Advice doesn't seem to do anything (not just mine) for your situation so perhaps you need to do what you want and not bother asking for advice at all?

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