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N. Thornton
- Jan 1, 1970
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From: John Doe ([email protected])
[email protected] (N. Thornton) wrote
what does that mean? If you want to be offensive to those who are
taking their time to wise you up you wont learn much.
you dont need a lab test to prove that tomatoes dont make good cricket
balls. The case with surge suppressors is about as elementary. The
obvious way to judge the question is to ask the experts, which you are
now doing. Perhaps if you'd paid one of us to write this you'd then
believe it.
You can always do a quick search on the names here to find out what
experience and qualifications people have.
I already explained the motivations. You already said you could be
baffled with bullshit. The conclusion should be obvious.
Yes I have. You appear unclear on this.
A group of electronics experts is an unreliable source? Who do you
want your information from, a disco diva?
I gave you the theory, youve heard from others well qualified and
experienced in the field too.
But perhaps you know better, perhaps you understand the theory, and
have enough experience to be able to evaluate some of the technical
claims, and do understand the issues with the word 'surge'. Perhaps
you can accurately evaluate financially motivated test results and
understand the business principles behind it all. But so far I've seen
evidence that indicates the opposite in each case.
Now we come onto another point.
"Protection modes: Includes full normal mode (H-N) and common mode
(N-G / H-G) line surge suppression"
So this one does include components offering a limited amount of
common mode suppression. I'll leave it to someone else to explain why
this still will have limited effect.
I'll just add that a million volt lightining strike can blow resistive
loads clean apart, turn them to charcoal, or vapourise them. So whats
it going to do to a 50 cent MOV suppressor the size of a peanut? MOV
rating: 2350 joules, lightning: what?
"AC suppression components used:
Metal oxide varistors, toroidal balanced chokes, ferrite rod-core
inductors and VHF capacitors."
those things are in computer supplies already.
"Network grade surge suppression rated at 2350 joules / 97,000 amps "
Some of us actually know what would happen to it if one put 6000A
through 15A flex, let alone 97,000. Suggested seach words include
cable, wall, explode, channel.
Regards, NT
[email protected] (N. Thornton) wrote
John Doe <[email protected]> wrote in message
<snipped an invitation to a mental circle jerk>
what does that mean? If you want to be offensive to those who are
taking their time to wise you up you wont learn much.
popular.
money.I am reading this thread and I don't see any links to laboratory tests
which provide evidence of your claim surge supressors are a waste of
you dont need a lab test to prove that tomatoes dont make good cricket
balls. The case with surge suppressors is about as elementary. The
obvious way to judge the question is to ask the experts, which you are
now doing. Perhaps if you'd paid one of us to write this you'd then
believe it.
You can always do a quick search on the names here to find out what
experience and qualifications people have.
My research turns up the opposite.
I already explained the motivations. You already said you could be
baffled with bullshit. The conclusion should be obvious.
But you have no idea where your proof might be.
Yes I have. You appear unclear on this.
So you cannot point to any laboratory tests, let alone anything done by
reliable sources,
A group of electronics experts is an unreliable source? Who do you
want your information from, a disco diva?
which substantiates the sensational claim a Tripp-Lite
top of the line surge suppressor (the one I pointed you to) is a waste of
money.
I gave you the theory, youve heard from others well qualified and
experienced in the field too.
But perhaps you know better, perhaps you understand the theory, and
have enough experience to be able to evaluate some of the technical
claims, and do understand the issues with the word 'surge'. Perhaps
you can accurately evaluate financially motivated test results and
understand the business principles behind it all. But so far I've seen
evidence that indicates the opposite in each case.
Now we come onto another point.
"Protection modes: Includes full normal mode (H-N) and common mode
(N-G / H-G) line surge suppression"
So this one does include components offering a limited amount of
common mode suppression. I'll leave it to someone else to explain why
this still will have limited effect.
I'll just add that a million volt lightining strike can blow resistive
loads clean apart, turn them to charcoal, or vapourise them. So whats
it going to do to a 50 cent MOV suppressor the size of a peanut? MOV
rating: 2350 joules, lightning: what?
"AC suppression components used:
Metal oxide varistors, toroidal balanced chokes, ferrite rod-core
inductors and VHF capacitors."
those things are in computer supplies already.
"Network grade surge suppression rated at 2350 joules / 97,000 amps "
Some of us actually know what would happen to it if one put 6000A
through 15A flex, let alone 97,000. Suggested seach words include
cable, wall, explode, channel.
Regards, NT